[VS] 1 MS Obito can defeat these characters

[VongolaX]

And so.....?

Obito can stop Kakashi's kamui with his own, as we've already seen. Not to mention Kakashi was exhausted for most of the time. And let's not forget that Kakashi didn't even want to kill Obito

I'm yet to see that happen, otherwise his mask wouldn't of been touched in the first place.

Kakashi didn't know that was Obito in the first place, and driving a raikri to the heart is full killing intent that part is clear.

Please, don't make things up it is very misleading to those who read these threads.

 

[lanakui8]

Agree?

BM Naruto - He would have defeated him if not for Gai,Kakashi and Bee and for those who say "he needs the Rinnegan to defeat BM Naruto" Well the only Rinnegan Jutsu Obito used was Rikudo no Jutsu and BM Naruto shat on it and Obito using speed alone could have defeat BM Naruto but Kakashi,Gai and Bee were there to help

KCM Naruto w/ intent to kill slaughters MS or rinnegan obito. The only reason obito even lasted that long against the four of them was because naruto restrains his power against living opponents, he wanted to discover who obito was, and didn't want to kill him.

For goodness sakes, danzou's two lackeys and konan (w/o even using paper ocean) did more damage to MS Obito than bee, naruto, gai and kakashi did to rinnegan obito.

NAruto destroys obito if he uses: tajuu kagebunshin, super speed and lethal rasengans.

Base Minato - He lost to him as a kid and he didnt even use Mokuton and Minato even said that Obito doesnt want to have a long fight
Adult War arc Obito would defeat Base Minato

what good would mokuton have done against minato? War arc rinnegan obito who doesn't have to control kurama could be argued to end with different results.

Nagato- Debateable...Nagato is overall more powerful but Kamui can be tricky

6 Paths of Pain - high diff at best

shinra tensei + shared vision screws MS obito over. 6 paths of pain screws obito over as well since if he warps one, he gets destroyed from within his dimension.

SM Naruto - Med diff

frog song + tajuu kagebunshin + lethal rasengans + super speed = gg MS obito

EMS Sasuke - EMS Sasuke doesnt have PS and Obito has a counter for everything EMS Sasuke can do

reactions to tag juubito = gg MS obito

1 MS Kakashi - Murder stomp

kakashi wins since this is just MS obito. Kakashi can let obito warp him into kamui land and he'll fight obito w/o the use of their MS powers. 3 tomoe sharingan kakashi > 3 tomoe obito.

 

[Dãrth1]

Agree?

BM Naruto - He would have defeated him if not for Gai,Kakashi and Bee and for those who say "he needs the Rinnegan to defeat BM Naruto" Well the only Rinnegan Jutsu Obito used was Rikudo no Jutsu and BM Naruto shat on it and Obito using speed alone could have defeat BM Naruto but Kakashi,Gai and Bee were there to help

Base Minato - He lost to him as a kid and he didnt even use Mokuton and Minato even said that Obito doesnt want to have a long fight
Adult War arc Obito would defeat Base Minato

Nagato- Debateable...Nagato is overall more powerful but Kamui can be tricky

6 Paths of Pain - high diff at best

SM Naruto - Med diff

EMS Sasuke - EMS Sasuke doesnt have PS and Obito has a counter for everything EMS Sasuke can do

Tobirama - Debateable

1 MS Kakashi - Murder stomp

7 Gates Gai - Murder Stomp

Itachi - Med diff fight

@Bold
Nah
Itachi wins Mid diff, Kakashi already won, Gai wins High Diff

 

[VongolaX]

And Gai and Killer Bee but still couldnt defeat Obito XD

Exactly, Obito even said he needed them alive to complete his plans.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

KCM Naruto w/ intent to kill slaughters MS or rinnegan obito.

Shut up

NAruto destroys obito if he uses: tajuu kagebunshin, super speed and lethal rasengans.

BSM Naruto onwards>1 MS Obito

what good would mokuton have done against minato? War arc rinnegan obito who doesn't have to control kurama could be argued to end with different results.

True

shinra tensei + shared vision screws MS obito over. 6 paths of pain screws obito over as well since if he warps one, he gets destroyed from within his dimension.

Nah Obito>6 Pains
Deva would be a problem but Obito would neg him during the 5 second cool down

frog song + tajuu kagebunshin + lethal rasengans + super speed = gg MS obito

Hell no stfu

reactions to tag juubito = gg MS obito

Debateable with Tobirama

kakashi wins since this is just MS obito. Kakashi can let obito warp him into kamui land and he'll fight obito w/o the use of their MS powers. 3 tomoe sharingan kakashi > 3 tomoe obito.

Obito would easily end him w/o going to Kamui world

1- Obito is faster and stronger
2- Obito could bind him with chains and kill him with huge Shurikens
(Minato escaped chains because of FTG)

3- Juubi Size Katon turns Kakashi to ash and stop pouting nonsense by saying 3T Kakashi>Obito

@Bold
Nah
Itach wins high diff

I'll let this slide

Kakashi already won

Obito let him win

Gai wins High Diff

Stop please
Obito slaughters 7 Gates

 

[Draphsin]

Ya the one he used on Hachibi was called a curse seal, which was a different chain than the one Gedo uses.

The black rods are a way to relay sage chakra the user/or Gedo to an individual.

The 3rd databook said that it's uncertain that these black belts are even associated with the rinnegan.
(I think black zetsu and old Madara can attest to that)

Remember to that he ejected rods out of kamui dimensions, kamui has nothing to do with the rinnegan.

Hmm, I guess you have a point then.

 

[lanakui8]

Shut up

because you don't have an argument that says otherwise

BSM Naruto onwards>1 MS Obito

war arc SM NAruto onwards > 1 MS Obito

Nah Obito>6 Pains
Deva would be a problem but Obito would neg him during the 5 second cool down

how exactly when pain has shared vision which means obito isn't sneaking up on him? How exactly when obito's absorption is suicide for obito?

Hell no stfu

again, this just shows you don't have a counterargument.

Obito would easily end him w/o going to Kamui world

1- Obito is faster and stronger
2- Obito could bind him with chains and kill him with huge Shurikens
(Minato escaped chains because of FTG)

Minato only got hit with the chains because he didn't know about kamui, and obito used kamui.

3- Juubi Size Katon turns Kakashi to ash and stop pouting nonsense by saying 3T Kakashi>Obito

juubi-sized katon requires kamui as explicitly shown when obito used katon bakufu ranbu for the first time. We saw how laughably weaker Obito's katons were when he fought kakashi in kamuiland.

 

[Draphsin]

war arc SM NAruto onwards > 1 MS Obito

Lol Joke of the day.

 

[lanakui8]

Lol Joke of the day.

When people as weak as konan w/o paper ocean and danzou's lackeys can significantly damage MS Obito, to say otherwise would be a joke.

Tell me how exactly MS Obito would deal with tajuu kagebunshin + lethal rasengans? Or how he'd deal with frog song?

 

[VongolaX]

Hmm, I guess you have a point then.

Fourth databook is going to reveal all this and everything in regards to chapter 606.

After that I'll use the info to flame the sh*t out of some trolls.

The fourth databook already revealed that ms Obito has yin yang release.

Now I'm waiting for the rikudou no Justu or in other words six path Justus.

 

[ARGUS]

Agree?

BM Naruto - He would have defeated him if not for Gai,Kakashi and Bee and for those who say "he needs the Rinnegan to defeat BM Naruto" Well the only Rinnegan Jutsu Obito used was Rikudo no Jutsu and BM Naruto shat on it and Obito using speed alone could have defeat BM Naruto but Kakashi,Gai and Bee were there to help

No he cant, he gets raped by BM naruto especially when the latter has intel

Base Minato - He lost to him as a kid and he didnt even use Mokuton and Minato even said that Obito doesnt want to have a long fight

Adult War arc Obito would defeat Base Minato

Already happened in canon,
nothing has changed since the speed of his kamui is still the same, and its slower than FTG which is why he loses,
minato with intel would school him

obito needs the bijuu to beat minato

Nagato- Debateable...Nagato is overall more powerful but Kamui can be tricky

izanagi gives obito the win

6 Paths of Pain - high diff at best

could go either way with obito winning this more times than not

SM Naruto - Med diff

EMS Sasuke - EMS Sasuke doesnt have PS and Obito has a counter for everything EMS Sasuke can do

EMS sasuke does have PS, i dont know why u dont agree with that,
ability to wrap on objects as well as the torso armor, jewel, is a property of PS
however i do agree that Obito beats him

Tobirama - Debateable

Tobirama schools him just like minato did

1 MS Kakashi - Murder stomp

Could go either way, however with kamui negating kamui means that kakashi could win like he did in canon

7 Gates Gai - Murder Stomp

Itachi - Med diff fight

agreed

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

because you don't have an argument that says otherwise

Remember Obito said "when i touch you its all over"
And the Gai and Kakashi saved him

war arc SM NAruto onwards > 1 MS Obito

Black rod would end Naruto just like what Deva Path did

Minato only got hit with the chains because he didn't know about kamui, and obito used kamui.

Or Obito was equally as skilled?

juubi-sized katon requires kamui as explicitly shown when obito used katon bakufu ranbu for the first time. We saw how laughably weaker Obito's katons were when he fought kakashi in kamuiland.

He needs Kamui to use Bakufuu Ranbu but he still has Juubi Size Katon [remember he and Madara using Katon?]

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And what part of Obito letting Kakashi dont you understand?

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No he cant, he gets raped by BM naruto especially when the latter has intel

What if he extracts Kurama out of Natuto?

could go either way, however with kamui negating kamui means that kakashi could win like he did in canon

By that logic Hebi Sasuke>MS Itachi since he won even though the latter let him win
Obito let Kakashi win

 

[Draphsin]

When people as weak as konan w/o paper ocean

Read the manga, she only damaged him because he allowed it to happen.

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He was toying with her, hence the only reason why he got damaged.

and danzou's lackeys can significantly damage MS Obito

Lmfao those fodders couldn't even touch obito, [

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] again the only reason why he lost his arm was because he had to touch torune in order to warp him & he chose to do it.

He was also toying with them.

to say otherwise would be a joke.

Laughable, obito sh*ts on these characters & he wasn't even serious, using them in your example just goes to show how desperate people are to try & downplay MS obito.

Tell me how exactly MS Obito would deal with tajuu kagebunshin

Depends on the MS obito, the one with kurama sh*ts on these clones. The one without kurama does

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or simply phases through it all.

Btw do you have a scan of naruto using thousands of senjutsu clones? & Don't bring up the scan of when he was fighting kurama either.

+ lethal rasengans?

Obito can tank a rasengan like it's his job, not like he's even going to get hit in the first place.

Or how he'd deal with frog song?

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Fourth databook is going to reveal all this and everything in regards to chapter 606.

After that I'll use the info to flame the sh*t out of some trolls.

The fourth databook already revealed that ms Obito has yin yang release.

Now I'm waiting for the rikudou no Justu or in other words six path Justus.

Interesting, where did you catch a glimpse of the DB?

 

[Benjamin King]

The only people he defeats are SM Naruto and Itachi.

 

[VongolaX]

Read the manga, she only damaged him because he allowed it to happen.

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He was toying with her, hence the only reason why he got damaged.



Lmfao those fodders couldn't even touch obito, [

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] again the only reason why he lost his arm was because he had to touch torune in order to warp him & he chose to do it.

He was also toying with them.



Laughable, obito sh*ts on these characters & he wasn't even serious, using them in your example just goes to show how desperate people are to try & downplay MS obito.



Depends on the MS obito, the one with kurama sh*ts on these clones. The one without kurama does

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or simply phases through it all.

Btw do you have a scan of naruto using thousands of senjutsu clones? & Don't bring up the scan of when he was fighting kurama either.



Obito can tank a rasengan like it's his job, not like he's even going to get hit in the first place.

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Interesting, where did you catch a glimpse of the DB?

There's a thread in the discussion section, someone made translating pieces of the databook.

They did one on yin yang release and its origins

I posted it on the front page, I'm waiting for the Obito translation with Madara.

 

[ARGUS]

What if he extracts Kurama out of Natuto?

Not happening
Naruto uses his clones to gang bang obito, and use his flash shunshin along with rasengans to kill him off,
obito retaliating with kamui just means that he gets raped from both dimensions, and killed with utmost ease

By that logic Hebi Sasuke>MS Itachi since he won even though the latter let him win
Obito let Kakashi win

Nope, i dont see why he did,
the only thing he made him do was remove the puppet master seal,
after that it was a fair fight, and obito lost just fine, when the chidori nearly killed him

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Nope, i dont see why he did,
the only thing he made him do was remove the puppet master seal,
after that it was a fair fight, and obito lost just fine, when the chidori nearly killed him

Nope
Obito let him win and the rest are excuses you made
Kakashi cant kill Obito 1 vs 1 as Mokuton w Taijutsu and Katon would simply end Kakashi and not to mention that Kakashi doesnt have speed feats to counter Phasing Kamui

Oh and btw Kakashi had a chakra boost via Kurama and Obito has been loosing chakra ever since he got the Rinnegan

 

[lanakui8]

Read the manga, she only damaged him because he allowed it to happen.

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He was toying with her, hence the only reason why he got damaged.

...he wasn't toying with her, and if it's his own foolishness that got him damaged, then it doesn't change anything since intelligence is part of a character's power.

Lmfao those fodders couldn't even touch obito, [

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] again the only reason why he lost his arm was because he had to touch torune in order to warp him & he chose to do it.

And again, that in no way means that Obito lost his arm when fighting two fodders.

Laughable, obito sh*ts on these characters & he wasn't even serious, using them in your example just goes to show how desperate people are to try & downplay MS obito.

what in the world implied obito wasn't serious against them? All I see is you just asserting that he wasn't serious with zero arguments to back it up.

Depends on the MS obito, the one with kurama sh*ts on these clones. The one without kurama does

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or simply phases through it all.

Bakufu ranbu is rinnegan obito's feat. The rinnegan grants him the rinnegan's chakra which would drastically power up all of his techniques. Not only that, but Naruto ends obito with a SM FRS while he's doing that since has to be tangible while using kamui, or Naruto ends him with SM chou oodama rasengan just like a normal rasengan left naruto and his clone unharmed by sasuke's katon.

Btw do you have a scan of naruto using thousands of senjutsu clones? & Don't bring up the scan of when he was fighting kurama either.

When did I say naruto makes thousands of SM clones? SM clones are clones made while naruto is in SM with senjutsu chakra. Naruto can make as many senjutsu clones as he can base clones as long as he doesn't have other clones gathering natural energy elsewhere.

Obito can tank a rasengan like it's his job, not like he's even going to get hit in the first place.

Juubito couldn't even tank a normal senpou rasengan, how in the world is obito going to survive a senpou oodama, chou oodama, fuuton rasengan, or rasenshuriken?

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so basically, obito can't do anything once frog song comes out.

 

[EZQ]

Agree?

BM Naruto - He would have defeated him if not for Gai,Kakashi and Bee and for those who say "he needs the Rinnegan to defeat BM Naruto" Well the only Rinnegan Jutsu Obito used was Rikudo no Jutsu and BM Naruto shat on it and Obito using speed alone could have defeat BM Naruto but Kakashi,Gai and Bee were there to help

Base Minato - He lost to him as a kid and he didnt even use Mokuton and Minato even said that Obito doesnt want to have a long fight
Adult War arc Obito would defeat Base Minato

Nagato- Debateable...Nagato is overall more powerful but Kamui can be tricky

6 Paths of Pain - high diff at best

SM Naruto - Med diff

EMS Sasuke - EMS Sasuke doesnt have PS and Obito has a counter for everything EMS Sasuke can do

Tobirama - Debateable

1 MS Kakashi - Murder stomp

7 Gates Gai - Murder Stomp

Itachi - Med diff fight

BM Naruto beats obito.

Minato canonically beat him.

Nagato shits on him

6pop- Obito wins

SM Naruto- Obito wins

EMS Sasuke- Could go either way

Tobirama- Tobirama wins here definitely

1 ms Kakashi beats Obito- He sends a clone to the other dimension and then beats hiim on base skills

7th gate- Obito wins

 

[Draphsin]

...he wasn't toying with her, and if it's his own foolishness that got him damaged, then it doesn't change anything since intelligence is part of a character's power.

Yes he was, I gave sufficient evidence to prove that obito wasn't serious while fighting konan, if you deny it then that's your fault. & This has nothing to do with intelligence, this is his state of mind which is always mentioned in a VS.

And again, that in no way means that Obito lost his arm when fighting two fodders.

He lost it because he had to touch torune in order to warp him away, he had no other choice but he didn't care regardless.

Again, if you don't want to believe the sufficient evidence proving obito's lack of seriousness then that's not my fault.

what in the world implied obito wasn't serious against them? All I see is you just asserting that he wasn't serious with zero arguments to back it up.

You're seriously going to tell me that I have no arguments? Smh, are you ignorant or just trolling?

The fact that he deliberately let torune try & hit him

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. He phased behind him facing the opposite direction, how does that not imply he's toying around? I need a valid explanation otherwise you're just saying there's no implication without any reasoning.

Bakufu ranbu is rinnegan obito's feat.

No it's not, the rinnegan doesn't grant the user more chakra than they already have, that's a fact unless you can give me a scan of a rinnegan user gaining a larger chakra pool.

The rinnegan grants him the rinnegan's chakra which would drastically power up all of his techniques.

"Rinnegan's chakra"? There's no such thing, the only thing that the rinnegan does is grant the user a new set of abilities, nowhere is it implied that a chakra increase is also an effect.

Not only that, but Naruto ends obito with a SM FRS while he's doing that since has to be tangible while using kamui,

Lol Obito stops then, not hard to do, then the fiery explosion kills all the clones in the area.

or Naruto ends him with SM chou oodama rasengan just like a normal rasengan left naruto and his clone unharmed by sasuke's katon.

Stop saying naruto ends him, naruto can't even touch him. All obito does to these attacks if they get close to him is phase through them.

& Guess who has more chakra here? That's right obito does so if this even comes down to a battle of attrition [which it's beginning to look like judging by all the moves you're having naruto spam] then naruto loses. In fact the moment naruto's SM runs out he gets blitzed via warp.

When did I say naruto makes thousands of SM clones? SM clones are clones made while naruto is in SM with senjutsu chakra. Naruto can make as many senjutsu clones as he can base clones as long as he doesn't have other clones gathering natural energy elsewhere.

Bullsh*t, scan stating or showing naruto create multiple SM clones, otherwise it's fanfic. Naruto can't gather enough nature energy to create a mini army of senjutsu fueled clones, not even hashi can maintain multiple SM clones.

Juubito couldn't even tank a normal senpou rasengan, how in the world is obito going to survive a senpou oodama, chou oodama, fuuton rasengan, or rasenshuriken?

All of those jutsus you mentioned are not what I was referring to & they all get phased through regardless.

so basically, obito can't do anything once frog song comes out.

You telling me that ma & pa can maintain frog song forever? No they can't. Obito leaves the area until they're finished.

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to trap them.