Rinnegan Madara vs DMS Obito

[Bronze]

Obito has PS???

He could have one, but it's weaker than Madara's PS enhanced by Rikudou's Chakra.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

He could have one, but it's weaker than Madara's PS enhanced by Rikudou's Chakra.

Man thats like having Madara use Shinra Tensei XD We know he has it but he hasnt shown it...Kakashi did

 

[Bronze]

Man thats like having Madara use Shinra Tensei XD We know he has it but he hasnt shown it...Kakashi did

It was actually shown:

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[ARGUS]

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--No rikudo chakra means that obito has no way of damaging the limbo, nor does he have any way of seeing or percieving it, therefore allowing madara to gang bang obito with his 5 limbo clones, where the latter would have no clue of where he is attacked from

--Madara having the reflexes of evading an FTG based attack as well as enhanced SM sensing also means that kamui is sensed, and evaded, or madara can simply use rinbo hengoku whilst obito is solidified and use chakra rods to immobilise him once obito is knocked down

--Madara also camps himself in susanoo and with his SM sensing he would be able to tell when obito has solidified therefore getting his limbos to rape obito, who has no way of countering them at all

--Flower Tree World can also be used, in conjunction with mokuton and limbo clones who ensure that obito doesnt survive,

 

[Conspirator.]

Madara shits in scenario 1. Obito wins scenario 2.

 

[Unorthodox]

Madara stomps S1 loses the 2nd

 

[Holy God]

Madara wins the first, and only wins the second if he can summon a Limbo/Wood-style clone outside of a barrier to swap with. Being the hot of the ten-tails renders Obito's ability to phase null and void.

 

[TRE MERCER]

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OT: Obito can't see Limbo in Scenario 1 so he loses. However, he babyshakes Madara in Scenario 2.

Yes Obito got Naruto in there did you forget this scan.(

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). Obito clearly got Naruto inside of there... Don't have to see it when Madara is sniped from the start...

These are ways Madara can end the match before it begins:

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Choose one, op.

I already explained why Limbo is pretty useless here... Zetsu is not apart of DMS Obito try again... That Juubi Jin Madara feat not like Obito couldn't just faze through the meteros or warp himself higher than the meteors when they start falling down...

--No rikudo chakra means that obito has no way of damaging the limbo, nor does he have any way of seeing or percieving it, therefore allowing madara to gang bang obito with his 5 limbo clones, where the latter would have no clue of where he is attacked from

--Madara having the reflexes of evading an FTG based attack as well as enhanced SM sensing also means that kamui is sensed, and evaded, or madara can simply use rinbo hengoku whilst obito is solidified and use chakra rods to immobilise him once obito is knocked down

--Madara also camps himself in susanoo and with his SM sensing he would be able to tell when obito has solidified therefore getting his limbos to rape obito, who has no way of countering them at all

--Flower Tree World can also be used, in conjunction with mokuton and limbo clones who ensure that obito doesnt survive,

That was Juubi Jin Madara Limbo... Limbo takes the user body traits remember Senjutsu is required for damaging Juubi Jins so if the Limbo is nothing but an in-body meant of the user i don't see why it doesn't have the same traits... Also needing SM Means nothing when that same rules applies to TSB's and Kakashi warped it.(

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). Not like that means something anyway when Madara is going to get sniped. You need foot speed to evade Kamui which Madara lacks. DMS Kamui speed shits on him being able to react to an ftg based attacks... Konan explains Kamui is slower when you warp yourself.(

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). Yet he preform such a feat faster than the movement of a RM Naruto clone from atleast 100meters away.(

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). Madara get's warping a standing Susanoo isn't big enough to hide form a Kamui sniped. Yepp Obito is just going to sit around while Madara makes clones and FTW...

 

[Bronze]

I already explained why Limbo is pretty useless here... Zetsu is not apart of DMS Obito try again... That Juubi Jin Madara feat not like Obito couldn't just faze through the meteros or warp himself higher than the meteors when they start falling down...

Your explanation holds no weight, because Naruto's intent was to get to the other dimension after Obito had teleported. So Limbo shits on Kamui for several reasons.

1. Obito can't see it or sense it.
2. His Kamui can't do anything to it because Limbo is from another dimension, and for Kamui to work against Limbo, Obito needs to sync with the dimension, which isn't happening here.
3. Obito doesn't have the reaction time to react to Limbo's speed, so he gets blitzed.

Ahh...that wasn't Zetsu. It was Madara's Will technique he used on Obito's body. Zetsu has no involvement. I'm going to need a proof that Juubi's Chakra allowed Madara to perform that feat. And you didn't even understand the premise behind CT. It's not supposed to hit Obito, it's supposed to force his time limit of Kamui to run, since there are 20+ of them, and they can rain down for a long time under Madara's control. So when Kamui's time limit runs out while phasing through the meteors, that is it.

On your point of Limbo changing Madara's properties, you're wrong. It's not Senjutsu that's required to hit Limbo, but Rikudou's Chakra is what is. That is a propriety of Madara's body, considering he also possess Rikudou's Chakra, and also a function of Limbo.

 

[Haizaki]

Yes Obito got Naruto in there did you forget this scan.(

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). Obito clearly got Naruto inside of there... Don't have to see it when Madara is sniped from the start...

Didn't say Obito didn't get there..You said Naruto didn't and I presented a scan of him entering there..How did obito getting him there when we see him entering at the bottom here

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Depends though...Madara can use Limbo to block his view.

 

[Omar19992010]

Wouldn't Madara's PS and Wood Release also be powered by Rikudou Chakra in this form?

 

[Bronze]

Wouldn't Madara's PS and Wood Release also be powered by Rikudou Chakra in this form?

Of course. Much greater than Sasuke's PS and Hashirama's Mokuton, given to how he genetically fused the Chakra of Indra's and Ashura's Chakra together.

 

[10th]

First scenario depends on various unpredictable factors and can go either way.

Second scenario, Obito comfortably defeats Madara.