[Discussion] Who has the stronger body physically? Sanji or Zoro?

[TheHokage]

Im not being insecure just asking a simple qusetion mate so calm your panties U_U.

Talk about delusion...you're the one that was nearly crying over someone saying Zoro isn't as physically strong as Sanji with his legs.

 

[kageking]

Zero debate. Zoro wins. On current feats zoro is the most durable straw hat.

 

[Red Swag]

zoro. the toughest mofuka out there.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Zoro is physically the strongest strawhat I thought we already established this? U_U....

This is true, except that just means he lifts the most weight. Zoro lifting doesn't mean his body is more durable than Sanji's. Black Foot left the bubble in FI arc, no other crewmember could, he's the most durable strawhat while Zoro has the most endurance.

 

[Bogard]

Because Sanji is the only one who left the bubble doesn't mean Zoro couldn't. Generally if a character portrayed to have a weaker body accomplish a feat, you can actually use it as an evidence to prove someone portrayed to have a stronger body could as well, giving that feat to him(it's how they do in the outskirtsbattledome for example). M3 level characters are generally portrayed to have similar physical strength, so there is no reason to believe that if Sanji did it that Zoro couldn't especially when you know their portrayal.

It's basically like when Zoro was hyped to be faster than a fishmen on Hody standard when Sanji wasn't(he was said to be equal to a fishman according to Usopp). Doesn't mean however that Zoro is faster than Sanji. The sequence against the pacifista more like proved they have similar reaction speed if anything. In other words, the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence. Zoro wasn't forced to leave that bubble. It's not like it was a competition or something. Considering Zoro's body was portrayed to be more durable preskip, i'd wager it remained the same even post-timeskip

 

[Agumon]

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You tell me

 

[Punk Hazard]

Because Sanji is the only one who left the bubble doesn't mean Zoro couldn't. Generally if a character portrayed to have a weaker body accomplish a feat, you can actually use it as an evidence to prove someone portrayed to have a stronger body could as well, giving that feat to him(it's how they do in the outskirtsbattledome for example). M3 level characters are generally portrayed to have similar physical strength, so there is no reason to believe that if Sanji did it that Zoro couldn't especially when you know their portrayal.

It's basically like when Zoro was hyped to be faster than a fishmen on Hody standard when Sanji wasn't(he was said to be equal to a fishman according to Usopp). Doesn't mean however that Zoro is faster than Sanji. The sequence against the pacifista more like proved they have similar reaction speed if anything. In other words, the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence. Zoro wasn't forced to leave that bubble. It's not like it was a competition or something. Considering Zoro's body was portrayed to be more durable preskip, i'd wager it remained the same even post-timeskip

I understand that. But the fact of the matter is, Zoro didn't. Could Zoro have survived that depth? The answer is unknown, saying he can, and saying he can't are both equally wrong and equally right. That means both are inapplicable to Zoro's durability, one cannot cite him not leaving the bubble as proof that he didn't have the durability for it, but one also can't say that he could have because nothing has indicated so.

The thing is, Sanji did leave the bubble, which means that he has that feat, and Zoro has no greater durability feat than that as of yet. It's not an issue of can Zoro match that feat or not, the simple fact of the matter is, he has not done so, so we cannot say he can. As per manga feats so far, Sanji is the more durable of the two. Just because Zoro arguably had more durability during part one doesn't mean that's gonna stay the same in part 2. Smoker was beating Luffy in part one, is he beating Luffy now? Coby had better Haki than Sanji in part 1, would you bank that his is better now?

 

[Bogard]

I understand that. But the fact of the matter is, Zoro didn't. Could Zoro have survived that depth? The answer is unknown, saying he can, and saying he can't are both equally wrong and equally right. That means both are inapplicable to Zoro's durability, one cannot cite him not leaving the bubble as proof that he didn't have the durability for it, but one also can't say that he could have because nothing has indicated so.

The thing is, Sanji did leave the bubble, which means that he has that feat, and Zoro has no greater durability feat than that as of yet. It's not an issue of can Zoro match that feat or not, the simple fact of the matter is, he has not done so, so we cannot say he can. As per manga feats so far, Sanji is the more durable of the two. Just because Zoro arguably had more durability during part one doesn't mean that's gonna stay the same in part 2. Smoker was beating Luffy in part one, is he beating Luffy now? Coby had better Haki than Sanji in part 1, would you bank that his is better now?

You're not understanding anything. I'm saying if we have 2 person(A and B) with A being portrayed to have a stronger body than B, if B accomplish a durability feat, you can actually give that feat to A whether he accomplished the same feat or not because he has greater portrayal over B in terms of durability. It's basically like with Vergo. Vergo didn't accomplish Sanji's feat but we can give him Sanji's feat because his body has been portrayed to be stronger than Sanji's(slightly breaking the strongest part of his body in one kick).

 

[Punk Hazard]

You're not understanding anything. I'm saying if we have 2 person(A and B) with A being portrayed to have a stronger body than B, if B accomplish a durability feat, you can actually give that feat to A whether he accomplished the same feat or not because he has greater portrayal over B in terms of durability. It's basically like with Vergo. Vergo didn't accomplish Sanji's feat but we can give him Sanji's feat because his body has been portrayed to be stronger than Sanji's(slightly breaking the strongest part of his body in one kick).

That's quite the fallible premise, at least, for this case. For one, Zoro has no feats currently that place his body over Sanji's. Has Zoro been more durable in the past? Sure, but that's the past. Just because character A had character B beat in a certain field at one point does not mean they will always be better than that character in that field. Case in point, Coby. During the time the war of the best took place, he had better Haki than Sanji. Does that mean that Coby will always be better than Sanji in Kenbonshoku? During the time Skypeia took place, Luffy was slower and weaker than Rob Lucci was, but Luffy eventually surpassed him, showing your premise that character A>character B is always withstanding is completely incorrect.

Secondly, the case with Vergo and the case with Zoro are not the same. We can say Vergo can survive that depth because his body was explicitly shown to be tougher than Sanji. Vergo had a feat over Sanji in that category, so it can be applied. Current Zoro has no feats over Sanji in this category. Nothing has indicated Zoro has a tougher body, so we cannot apply Sanji's feat to Zoro.

The fact of the matter is, until Zoro displays a feat that either puts him above the 5000m feat, or a feat that directly puts him above Sanji post-timeskip, he does not have more durability.

 

[-Akuma-]

Sanji has the superior lower body while Zoro has the superior upper body. But Sanji fights with his body so again it makes more sense for him to be stronger so I say Sanji.

 

[Tomato God]

Zoro is physically the strongest strawhat I thought we already established this? U_U....

What we established was that Zoro VS sanji would result in Zoro winning.
However the notion that a swordsman needs just brute strength is a fallacy, Sanji however requires brute strength for all his attacks Zoro needs skill and technique as well as strength.

OT: Just because the way sanji handles things Might make him stronger. Sanji flipped oz and that is by far one of the best strength feats so far of Any of the straw hats bar and hold luffy.

 

[Gintõki1]

Zero debate. Zoro wins. On current feats zoro is the most durable straw hat.

I would love to hear an explanation on how you come to this conclusion.
Which feats makes him the most durable SH?

 

[~Kami no Itachi~]

Zoro lol

zoro tanked kuma's attack

putting sanji's name near to zoro is a shame

can't even break a metal door lmao

 

[Tomato God]

Zoro lol

zoro tanked kuma's attack

putting sanji's name near to zoro is a shame

can't even break a metal door lmao

Sanji flipped oz. Wrecked a building a bridge and the largest giant we have seen with one kick.
Zoro got stuck in a chimney.

Sanji's strength feats heavily outweigh Zoro's strength feats. Oz flips are the best Strength feat we have for any other strawhat besides Luffy.
Fanboyism aside Sanji's feats are way better than Zoro's feats.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Sanji flipped oz. Wrecked a building a bridge and the largest giant we have seen with one kick.
Zoro got stuck in a chimney.

Sanji's strength feats heavily outweigh Zoro's strength feats. Oz flips are the best Strength feat we have for any other strawhat besides Luffy.
Fanboyism aside Sanji's feats are way better than Zoro's feats.

San Juan Wolf is the largest giant.

 

[Tomato God]

San Juan Wolf is the largest giant.

Fair enough. But my point still stands.
By Feats Sanji is stronger physically than zoro.

 

[NarutoBmx33]

Sanji flipped oz. Wrecked a building a bridge and the largest giant we have seen with one kick.
Zoro got stuck in a chimney.

Sanji's strength feats heavily outweigh Zoro's strength feats. Oz flips are the best Strength feat we have for any other strawhat besides Luffy.
Fanboyism aside Sanji's feats are way better than Zoro's feats.

Gotta let go of that chimney part man, Sanji wouldn't have done anything different.

 

[Tomato God]

Gotta let go of that chimney part man, Sanji wouldn't have done anything different.

No. Sanji did do different. Instead of rushing after robin and doubting his nakama he knew better and followed her.
Sanji is smarter than zoro. And Physically stronger.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

It was shown already tht sanji has stronger body and Zoro more endurance

Sanji body was able to tank the pressure of 1000-5000 x under the sea do yall know what that does to a body it will destroy it lol
Zoro wasn't able to break out of his bubble.... (Fishman island before reaching there)


Now Zoro is able to last longer due to his will/endurance ... With his will he is able to tank a lot of hits but just because u can take a lot of hits doesn't mean ur body is superior (example ussop) it just means u have more of a will to continue...

The whole sea thing with sanji able to move under that much pressure and that much speed to me proves he has a stronger body..

 

[NarutoBmx33]

No. Sanji did do different. Instead of rushing after robin and doubting his nakama he knew better and followed her.
Sanji is smarter than zoro. And Physically stronger.

I meant that if Sanji was stuck in a chimney, he wouldnt have been able to escape better than Zoro. Probably wouldve need someone to pull him out cuz his legs wouldve been out.