Who are the strongest ninja that Masked Man (Obito) can defeat?

[Demonic.]

He's not powerful, Kamui is just haxxxed. He can defeat people with no counter to kamui like Nagato, but not because he's stronger.

I made a thread asking if this Obito can defeat the Gokage like Madara did, and everyone agreed Obito would get slaughtered.

 

[VongolaX]

Rasenagn>sword is it not? Raikage broke that same sword right?

The Raikage would take a normal rasengan too.

Let me clarify it a bit...

Tobi blocked the sword with one hand with no damage to him and his surroundings.

That same sword was also was also blocked by killerbee which required two hands and created a crater from the impact.

Raikage broke the sword because it was already damage from suigestu's other battles.

Minato thrusted that rasengan and slammed it into Obito. Narutos rasengan was not only smaller than Minatos, but it wasn't exactly slammed into Obito.

Kcm naruto's rasengan exploded, it sent Tobi's body flying into boulders.

Minato's didn't even explode....

My point is that we didn't see him use any but kamui.

Like he could of protected himself with mokuton, even if it's a little one.

Or use his huge Katon when charging at each other so that he can burn his ftg knife.

Any would of been useful besides trying to reach and touch minato.

I mean what is he going to do when he warps him?

He won't die inside dimensions, maybe a genjustu but it's not going to kill him.

 

[VongolaX]

simply because itachi is 10x smarter than him and will outsmart him in battle, once he learn how kamui works he low diffs

If he's going to kill Itachi, he won't use kamui.

Maybe the intangibility for Amatersu, but he will not warp Itachi if he wants him dead.

 

[Romy9]

It's funny how people think that Obito would JUST KAMUI THEM into oblivion if they were to fight. It certainly wouldn't be that simple. Especially if they have intel.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

How does Itachi defeat Obito and dont show that stupid scan of Obito praising Itachi

>Obito laughs at amtersu
>Obito is immune to Tsukyuomi
>Obito phases through Totsuka and Yata
>Obito is faster
>Obito is stronger
>Obito has Mokuton
>Obito has chakra rods
>Obito has Juubi Size Katon
>Obito outlasts Itachi

izanami gg

 

[Romy9]

How does Itachi defeat Obito and dont show that stupid scan of Obito praising Itachi

>Obito laughs at amtersu
>Obito is immune to Tsukyuomi
>Obito phases through Totsuka and Yata
>Obito is faster
>Obito is stronger
>Obito has Mokuton
>Obito has chakra rods
>Obito has Juubi Size Katon
>Obito outlasts Itachi

Kishimoto disagrees with you if you make a fantasy battle between them and debate him.

 

[maniaoqan]

SM Hashirama. He has the upperhand against Hashirama if there is no intel on Kamui. If Hashirama knows about Kamui this could co either way again but intangibility is hax.

 

[HiddenSound]

Kishimoto disagrees with you if you make a fantasy battle between them and debate him.

. . . What?

 

[Romy9]

. . . What?

Was referring to the movie which isn't canon.

 

[Demonic.]

SM Hashirama. He has the upperhand against Hashirama if there is no intel on Kamui. If Hashirama knows about Kamui this could co either way again but intangibility is hax.

Hashirama would rape with intel. Wood clones GG.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Kishimoto disagrees with you if you make a fantasy battle between them and debate him.

If you're using Kishi logic then you fully accept Itachi=Jiraiya via DB stats 35.5?
I await your reply

 

[Romy9]

If you're using Kishi logic then you fully accept Itachi=Jiraiya via DB stats 35.5?
I await your reply

How does that relate to the question at hand? And why are you underestimating Jiraiya?

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

How does that relate to the question at hand? And why are you underestimating Jiraiya?

Im saying that most Itachi fans like to use RTN which is not canon btw as an excuse to say Itachi>Obito when clearly Itachi doesnt have speed feats to counter Kamui

However when i say the databook where Kishi himself made the stats ranked Itachi and Jiraiya 35.5 everybody disagree's

Anyway can you tell me away Itachi defeats Obito instead of using that excuse?

 

[Romy9]

Im saying that most Itachi fans like to use RTN which is not canon btw as an excuse to say Itachi>Obito when clearly Itachi doesnt have speed feats to counter Kamui

However when i say the databook where Kishi himself made the stats ranked Itachi and Jiraiya 35.5 everybody disagree's

Anyway can you tell me away Itachi defeats Obito instead of using that excuse?

Of course Itachi has speed feats that can counter Kamui. The man makes seals at the speed not visible to a Sharingan eye, for God's a sake.

You know why they disagree? Because stats don't mean anything during a battle. That's where your fallacy lies. Orochimaru has ridiculous stats as well, but he's like a little child compared to Itachi. Naruto has abysmal stats but he still fights like he has pretty much everything maxed out.

Check again the fight between him and Minato. It's the perfect example. Many of Obito supporters troll these kinds of topics saying Obito would instantly Kamui everybody. Itachi, Minato, Hashirama, Madara, Sasuke, Naruto etc. are the likes on which Kamui wouldn't work so well. It's also logical. Kamui may be haxed, but it isn't invincible.

No one knows how the fight would go. The only thing you can do is think logically in every character's deserved credit.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Of course Itachi has speed feats that can counter Kamui. The man makes seals at the speed not visible to a Sharingan eye, for God's a sake.

You know why they disagree? Because stats don't mean anything during a battle. That's where your fallacy lies. Orochimaru has ridiculous stats as well, but he's like a little child compared to Itachi. Naruto has abysmal stats but he still fights like he has pretty much everything maxed out.

Check again the fight between him and Minato. It's the perfect example. Many of Obito supporters troll these kinds of topics saying Obito would instantly Kamui everybody. Itachi, Minato, Hashirama, Madara, Sasuke, Naruto etc. are the likes on which Kamui wouldn't work so well. It's also logical. Kamui may be haxed, but it isn't invincible.

No one knows how the fight would go. The only thing you can do is think logically in every character's deserved credit.

Since when does hand seals equate to foot speed? XD And Itachi was fighting Kakashi w/o Mangekyo
Also remember when Obito sneeked up on Minato and used Kamui? Minato escaped via FTG...so how is Itachi going to escape?

And its manga fact that Obito's speed=Naruto Bijuu Mode+Killer Bee+Kakashi+Gai

Itachi never showed any speed feats which rival Obito's

Oh and btw Obito's eye stamina and chakra are much greater than Itachi's(Im sure you knew this anyway)

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Since when does hand seals equate to foot speed? XD And Itachi was fighting Kakashi w/o Mangekyo
Also remember when Obito sneeked up on Minato and used Kamui? Minato escaped via FTG...so how is Itachi going to escape?

And its manga fact that Obito's speed=Naruto Bijuu Mode+Killer Bee+Kakashi+Gai

Itachi never showed any speed feats which rival Obito's

Oh and btw Obito's eye stamina and chakra are much greater than Itachi's(Im sure you knew this anyway)

you should watch romy9's signature then come back

 

[Raykyryn]

8th gate Gai.

 

[Itachi Solos]

How does Itachi defeat Obito and dont show that stupid scan of Obito praising Itachi

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[I'm stupid real stupid]

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Coward didnt have guts to fight Obito 1 vs 1 but resorts to sneek attacks...i wouldnt be shocked if Itachi was Black Zetsu's Riencarnation

 

[Gold Lightning]

I think 1 MS (with chains) Obito would defeat all of the following in a 1 vs 1:

- The 5 Kage (Danzo would be the toughest opponent, he may even have a chance actually)
- all of Team Hiruzen
- all of Akatsuki
- Killer Bee
- Mu, 4th Kazekage, Third Raikage and 2nd Mizukage
- EMS Sasuke
- MS Madara, dunno about EMS Madara.