Tobirama vs minato

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Tell me one incorrect thing about the manga site sir? Everything is up to date and correct. Even if it's not name 3 people better at water style then the 2nd? The only person that's even debatable is kisame

No one cares about how good Tobirama is at water style. We're just trying to tell you that the wiki is false and he is not the best water user, it's never stated in the manga by anyone. You can refuse to listen, I don't even care anymore. Mei has shown water fears just as good as Tobirama. Zabuza as well.

Besides, no water techniques would work on minato, he's too fast to be hit by them, he can teleport away from them and minato has a space time barrier which can counter any projectile, and even direct it back onto the user.
 

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Base Minato vs Alive Tobirama could honestly go either way.
 

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No one cares about how good Tobirama is at water style. We're just trying to tell you that the wiki is false and he is not the best water user, it's never stated in the manga by anyone. You can refuse to listen, I don't even care anymore. Mei has shown water fears just as good as Tobirama. Zabuza as well.

Besides, no water techniques would work on minato, he's too fast to be hit by them, he can teleport away from them and minato has a space time barrier which can counter any projectile, and even direct it back onto the user.

So if Tobirama creates a big body of water to make minato lose his footing and holds him under is it still unusable
 

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minato takes this senjutsu,rasengan, summons, i would like to see what tobirama can do against Gamabunta
 

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So if Tobirama creates a big body of water to make minato lose his footing and holds him under is it still unusable

Lol, show me where Tobirama has ever done that then. You realise ninja can walk on water right? Only water techniques he's used is water wall (defensive). Water dragon and severing wave (both offensive/projectile which are useless against minato). And he can shoot water bullets (again also uselss against a space time barrier or Minatos speed).

Do you also realise that minato can summon the largest and most powerful amphibians? Water is nothing to Gamabunta.
 

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Lol, show me where Tobirama has ever done that then. You realise ninja can walk on water right?

Do you also realise that minato can summon the largest and most powerful amphibians? Water is nothing to Gamabunta.

Yes i realize that but if he instantly creates a body of wateMinato Will be dragged under by Tobirama, and yes but do you realize Tobirama has fought people that will solo gamabunta
 

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Yes i realize that but if he instantly creates a body of wateMinato Will be dragged under by Tobirama, and yes but do you realize Tobirama has fought people that will solo gamabunta

So how does Tobirama solo Bunta then. Please explain, especially when minato is attacking him as well. You can't argue to save your life. Who has Tobirama fought that solos Bunta..uchiha? Yes because uchiha can control summons, Tobirama can't. That's not an argument.

And read my edit, I've listed to you the only water jutsu Tobirama has shown.

And minato isn't bad at senjutsu. He just suffers from the typical drawbacks of toad senjutsu. Using the amphibian techniques makes that irrelevant.
 

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So how does Tobirama solo Bunta then. Please explain, especially when minato is attacking him as well. You can't argue to save your life. Who has Tobirama fought that solos Bunta..uchiha? Yes because uchiha can control summons, Tobirama can't. That's not an argument.

And read my edit, I've listed to you the only water jutsu Tobirama has shown.

And minato isn't bad at senjutsu. He just suffers from the typical drawbacks of toad senjutsu. Using the amphibian techniques makes that irrelevant.

Kinkaku and ginkaku, Tobirama summons a few super strong Edo tensei, they take one or at least stalls them while Tobirama finishes the other. That infinite paper bomb technique, i doubt bunta can dodge it like minato can aswell.
And Minato had to stay in one spot to build senjutsu which i doubt Tobirama would let happen
 

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Kinkaku and ginkaku, Tobirama summons a few super strong Edo tensei, they take one or at least stalls them while Tobirama finishes the other. That infinite paper bomb technique, i doubt bunta can dodge it like minato can aswell.
And Minato had to stay in one spot to build senjutsu which i doubt Tobirama would let happen
Tobiramas Edo Tensei is the weakeest of all Edo Tensei users. They are extremely weak. Even weaker than Orchimarus part 1 summons. Show me what edos Tobirama can summon. He can't summon any super strong people. He's never even been shown to summon anyone. Edo Tensei requires preparation, sacrifices and DNA. You telling me Tobirama will go search for that during battle?

Minato doesn't need to be still if he uses the amphibian technique.
 

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Tobirama wouldn't be able to counter ftg rasengan. Tobirama loses with in a minute
 

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Tobiramas Edo Tensei is the weakeest of all Edo Tensei users. They are extremely weak. Even weaker than Orchimarus part 1 summons. Show me what edos Tobirama can summon. He can't summon any super strong people. He's never even been shown to summon anyone. Edo Tensei requires preparation, sacrifices and DNA. You telling me Tobirama will go search for that during battle?

Minato doesn't need to be still if he uses the amphibian technique.

His is the weakest because he can't control a large about of strong people, but if it's like 3 (which should be enough) He can do it. He is a senju that created Edo tensei I'm pretty sure he already has bodies to be used. And i doubt they are weaker than orochimaru part 1 summon. And Oros only seemed that weak because he tried to summon 2 of the strongest shinobi in history at the same time. And besides even if they were weak all they have to do is get close so Tobirama can do the Bomb technique
 

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Minato because i personally like him better.
He has BM. He more Variants in S/T [FTG]. He can cause more damage [ Rasegan [Kyubi form 2 , TBB ] he can tank more and aswell overall a better ninja​
 

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I lean towards Minato based on the fact that whatever water techs Tobirama possesses will be countered by ST barrier and it will ultimately become a battle of FTG VS FTG as other jutsu woild be too slow to after either of them. Minato has a better FTG, better reflexes and better speed even by Tobirama's admission.






Oh, and Minato is my favorite character
 

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When it comes to st users it's always gonna come down to speed which tobirama already admitted inferiority.
 
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