Could Itachi have killed Ay?

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I said who has he ever beat in a actual one on one fight. A fight not a one shot genjutsu situation.

Itachi using genjutsu to one-shot his opponent is a fight for him. It's always been like that. Kishimoto even describes the character as someone who takes no enjoyment in battle and wishes to end a fight quickly at all costs.
 

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Itachi has been shown to be much faster than Sasuke who could effectively counter Ay's attacks. Itachi can handle him.
 

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Which is why I said Itachi would win with a genjutsu but he gets speed blitzed any time of the week.

that goes both way, ay could kill him before he can react.

Ay isn't going to come at Itachi automatically knowing where he is and blitz him. The man can't fight with his eyes closed, he's not a sensor. He'll look at him and he'll get caught in genjutsu. The probability of this occurring is much higher than Itachi dying because of Ay's obvious capability of blitzing him.
 

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You act as if the fight will even get to that point. Considering how pitiful Ay is when it comes to genjutsu, it most certainly will not.

No, Totsuka blade isn't even needed for the fight.

I didn't mention characters since it's not needed if one follows the series. However, Deidara and Orochimaru come to mind immediately.

Regular sharingan genjutsu doesnt work. Only EMS and above.

Theirs a method to Ay's madness. Itachi has no possible way of touching him. His katon would miss. His genjutsu would be ineffective. Ay knows not to look into his eyes.

Only reason Madara caught him was because he was fighting 5 at once.
 

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Where was this shown?I'm curious.

I assume he means reaction-wise and is meaning MS Sasuke. Itachi was stated to have the fastest hand seal speed in this manga. His hands move so fast that the sharingan can't even decipher the movements. :|

Regular sharingan genjutsu doesnt work. Only EMS and above.

Theirs a method to Ay's madness. Itachi has no possible way of touching him. His katon would miss. His genjutsu would be ineffective. Ay knows not to look into his eyes.

Only reason Madara caught him was because he was fighting 5 at once.

MS doesn't qualify as regular sharingan genjutsu.

EMS is just a combination of two MS eyes. The genjutsu doesn't vary.

Itachi doesn't need to touch him. Genjutsu is all that's needed.

Madara caught him and Ay was foolish enough to look directly into his eyes. That's why he was caught in genjutsu.
 
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Itachi using genjutsu to one-shot his opponent is a fight for him. It's always been like that. Kishimoto even describes the character as someone who takes no enjoyment in battle and wishes to end a fight quickly at all costs.

Also genjutsu is easily canceled if the users is being effected by chakra. Ay's lightning armor constantly stimulates his body which will prevent him from being effected. Madara caught him with no raiton armor
 

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Can Itachi really dodge A's full speed punch? I don't think he can
 

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I assume he means reaction-wise and is meaning MS Sasuke. Itachi was stated to have the fastest hand seal speed in this manga. His hands move so fast that the sharingan can't even decipher the movements. :|

Hand seal speed doesn't mean Itachi can keep up with Ay's speed in V2 Raiton Armor.The only three people who did react to it are Minato,Naruto,and Madara.
 

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Also genjutsu is easily canceled if the users is being effected by chakra. Ay's lightning armor constantly stimulates his body which will prevent him from being effected. Madara caught him with no raiton armor

Raiton armor isn't protecting him from Tsukiyomi. U_U
He's not always in Raiton armor anyway.

Hand seal speed doesn't mean Itachi can keep up with Ay's speed in V2 Raiton Armor.The only three people who did react to it are Minato,Naruto,and Madara.

I know that. Itachi isn't remotely close to Ay's speed. However, Sasuke wasn't either and yet still managed to block most of his blows.
 

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Killer Bee wasn't even fighting to kill like he did against Sasuke,not to mention Itachi had to retreat afterwards.Itachi's fast sure but he's not keeping up with Ay who was the second fastest ninja alive after Minato died.
 
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Lol the fight would be over before it even started....
 

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Raiton armor isn't protecting him from Tsukiyomi. U_U
He's not always in Raiton armor anyway.



I know that. Itachi isn't remotely close to Ay's speed. However, Sasuke wasn't either and yet still managed to block most of his blows.

Tsukiyomi requires direct eye contact. Who would look itachi in his eyes? Doesnt take a rocket scientist to prove that. He was only out of raiton armor because chakra loss. From fighting edo madara and 5 madara clones. Mind you with one arm.

Itachi is dangerous but his arsenal doesnt match good against Ay.
 

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Killer Bee wasn't even fighting to kill like he did against Sasuke,not to mention Itachi had to retreat afterwards.Itachi's fast sure but he's not keeping up with Ay who was the second faster ninja alive after Minato died.

That's bias at its finest. There's no reason to believe Bee wasn't fighting with the same resolve as he had against Sasuke. (In case you forgot, Bee wasn't trying against Sasuke either.)

Itachi is faster than Sasuke, and Sasuke was able to dodge (albeit narrowly and in a linear fashion) a V1 Ay's strike.

Itachi also speed blitz'd a Sage Mode user. Speed isn't the issue here, it's the durability of the Raiton Cloak.
 

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Not only does Itachi win, but Itachi wins easily.

Tsukuyomi, gg.
Amaterasu gg (You guys may say A is too fast, but he isn't. Itachi would simply follow Ay with his Amaterasu like he did Sasuke until he caught him).
Susanoo gg.
Finger genjutsu gg.
Normal sharingan genjutsu gg.

Honestly. I would say Itachi's pre-cognitive ability outclasses Ay's speed, So I doubt Ay would even be able to hit Itachi. Itachi could just dodge Ay and counterattack.
 

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Not only does Itachi win, but Itachi wins easily.

Tsukuyomi, gg.
Amaterasu gg (You guys may say A is too fast, but he isn't. Itachi would simply follow Ay with his Amaterasu like he did Sasuke until he caught him).
Susanoo gg.
Finger genjutsu gg.
Normal sharingan genjutsu gg.

Honestly. I would say Itachi's pre-cognitive ability outclasses Ay's speed, So I doubt Ay would even be able to hit Itachi. Itachi could just dodge Ay and counterattack.

Itachi uses two MS techs and runs out of chakra. So umm yea he doesnt win easily.
 
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