Naruto's supposed win isn't satisfying.

[Retsu]

How does that reasoning even work? They were in the same physical condition, both couldn't move, both had lost one arm. He was talking about the ideology, not the fight. How could Naruto even beat Sasuke? Naruto can't even move lol.

Naruto said he still wanted to fight, you're replacing manga fact with your fanfic made from tears and shattered dreams.

 

[CDT23]

All I can say is enjoy your "victory" (as unsatisfying as it may and if you can call that a victory) atleast Sasuke beat Naruto legitimately (by incapacitating him).

FYI: I'm not really mad or insulted by the outcome of this fight as I didn't really see Naruto gaining the upperhand throughout the fight (Sasuke was dominating the entire battle) and the end result wasn't even in Naruto's favor.

Lol the amount of butt hurt tells me that you are mad. The end result shows Sasuke getting punched by base naruto, which created a crater from the force. Then naruto neutralized Sasuke enhanced chidori with a basic Rasengan. Naruto held back, had 8 less bijuu to syphon from, fought most of the war, and fought most of the Kaguya battle, and he still manage to go toe to toe with Sasuke. Just admit that Sasuke lost, and do so without adding stupid fanfic scenarios. Mangaphax>

 

[epictobi]

Naruto said he still wanted to fight, you're replacing manga fact with your fanfic made from tears and shattered dreams.

dat solo xD if i could _rep again i would

 

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[Hori]

Intro:At start of the fight Sasuke wanted to kill Naruto, Naruto didn't want to lose to Sasuke.

Result: Sasuke failed to kill Naruto and Naruto didn't lose to Sasuke.

Conclusion: Sasuke Lost

 

[JCW]

How does that reasoning even work? They were in the same physical condition, both couldn't move, both had lost one arm. He was talking about the ideology, not the fight. How could Naruto even beat Sasuke? Naruto can't even move lol.

Condiction: the way someone or something is

Fight: self explanatory

Yes sasuke was talking about the fight.


No shit they both cant move. Naruto's will wanted to keep fighting


I swear after every chapter, people act as the IT wasnt for peple in NV but irl (which we would be some over 200iq manga writing skills)

Irl a lot of people's IQ goes from lets say 115 dropping to damn there brain dead,


Ps, my IQ is 132

 

[EmperorSasuke]

Naruto said he still wanted to fight, you're replacing manga fact with your fanfic made from tears and shattered dreams.

Naruto saying it doesn't mean he could. Look at him and his battered and bloody face. You really think he can even move at this point of time? He's just boasting.

 

[SupremeWater]

"Lost" in ideology and it wasn't a "loss" but forced TNJ.

DUde , you wanna disgrace kishimoto's work !!!! ,, his work that is your pathatic obsession

 

[epictobi]

Naruto saying it doesn't mean he could. Look at him and his battered and bloody face. You really think he can even move at this point of time? He's just boasting.

no matter what you say you know and forever will have to deal with this

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[Sage konohamaru]

How does butthurt feels? I never had the pleasure

 

[Troyg39]

Naruto saying it doesn't mean he could. Look at him and his battered and bloody face. You really think he can even move at this point of time? He's just boasting.

Oh I see. So in your mind a victor is only determined by his condition to fight. Ok so let me flip this on it's head and expose your bias.

Let's say Naruto COULD move, but instead of finishing Sasuke off, he has a change of heart after seeing how hard Sasuke battled and says "I give up, I lost"

Tell me, would you give Sasuke the victory because Naruto gave up? Or would you not count it since Naruto clearly was in condition to finish Sasuke off right then and there?

Don't worry I'll wait




Sasuke gave up. Point blank. It doen't matter the physical condition. He didn't want to continue fighting. So he quit, which means he lost. That logic works in every battle setting you can think of. You give up, you lose

 

[Sage konohamaru]

Intro:At start of the fight Sasuke wanted to kill Naruto, Naruto didn't want to lose to Sasuke.

Result: Sasuke failed to kill Sasuke and Naruto didn't lose to Sasuke.

Conclusion: Sasuke Lost

You just black zetsu'ed the thread

 

[LeSauce]

For god's sake man, he literally said "You still want to fight in your condition?" RIGHT before he said "I lost"

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He was talking about the fight

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It doesn't really matter if he wanted to keep fighting. All this is, is Sasuke telling Naruto that there's no reason to fight anymore since he gave up on his goal, hence he lost, i.e. Naruto kept him from completing his plan and converted him.

Sasuke was knocked out for literally god knows how long right after the clash. Naruto wasn't completely immobile. He couldn't move very much for fear of bleeding to death, but since you want to split hairs in that time Sasuke was out cold, I'm sure turning over to stab him with a kunai, or hell even to hold his nose so he couldn't breathe, wouldn't have been too much movement for Naruto.

But in all seriousness, Sasuke lost the fight. There was always going to be a winner/loser because this fight had a deeper meaning than what was on the battlefield. If there wasn't a winner in this fight, then it would've made the entire thing, along with a great portion of the main story pointless.

Losing the fight doesn't mean he's necessarily weaker, but he lost. People just need to look beyond the fanboyism and see the significance of the loss for what it really is, just a plot device to bring it all full circle.

Both were completely immobile, neither of them could move. Naruto clearly said this, so all you're doing is trying to find ways to make it look like Naruto won the fight.
You also contradict yourself by saying that Naruto would win, but then die from moving. What? How could he win when he would also die?

Neither of them would be able to kill each other in that position because they were both out cold. All we know is that Naruto got up first, thought about punching Sasuke, but couldn't, so they tied.

 

[Hori]

You just black zetsu'ed the thread

Oh.. Lol is that what you guys call soloing the thread these days?

 

[so12p]

"...in a draw..." What a silly statement (as you can see by all the replies above this one).

I do agree that it was not very satisfying of a win. Kishimoto clearly felt compelled to pander to the fanbase, so he probably felt that he could not make any more conclusive than it was.

Sakura fans can get excited now. Obviously the will need her to heal their arms, since Naruto cannot move at the moment.

 

[EmperorSasuke]

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That was Kishi forcing Sasuke to TNJ himself into a Naruto fanboy.

Oh I see. So in your mind a victor is only determined by his condition to fight. Ok so let me flip this on it's head and expose your bias.

Let's say Naruto COULD move, but instead of finishing Sasuke off, he has a change of heart after seeing how hard Sasuke battled and says "I give up, I lost"

Tell me, would you give Sasuke the victory because Naruto gave up? Or would you not count it since Naruto clearly was in condition to finish Sasuke off right then and there?

Don't worry I'll wait




Sasuke gave up. Point blank. It doen't matter the physical condition. He didn't want to continue fighting. So he quit, which means he lost. That logic works in every battle setting you can think of. You give up, you lose

Sadly for you, I think the other way round. In your hypothetical situation, even if Naruto gave up, if he had the capability to kill Sasuke, Naruto would be the winner, but was nerfed by plot.

 

[LeSauce]

That was Kishi forcing Sasuke to TNJ himself into a Naruto fanboy.

Sasuke hasn't been completely TNJ'd. He still doubts that he would completely follow Naruto, which is great because it means that he won't turn out like Kakashi or Gaara.... Hopefully.

 

[Murasame]

I bet if the roles were switched between Naruto and Sasuke with Naruto saying the same exact thing Sasuke did you Sasuke fanboys wouldn't bother saying the stuff you are now to defend Sasuke. Sasuke admitted he lost plain and simple besides it's not a big deal its a damn manga.

 

[LeSauce]

I bet if the roles were switched between Naruto and Sasuke with Naruto saying the same exact thing Sasuke did you Sasuke fanboys wouldn't bother saying the stuff you are now to defend Sasuke. Sasuke admitted he lost plain and simple besides it's not a big deal its a damn manga.

If i'm pretty sure everyone thought Sasuke was going to lose, so why would anyone go that far to say he won the fight? Most Sasuke fans have been saying that Sasuke=Naruto, it would have just confirmed it. But you're right, there would be people who look at it that way.

 

[Murasame]

If i'm pretty sure everyone thought Sasuke was going to lose, so why would anyone go that far to say he won the fight? Most Sasuke fans have been saying that Sasuke=Naruto, it would have just confirmed it. But you're right, there would be people who look at it that way.

Everyone? Nah there were people saying Sasuke would though putting aside that some were trolling but Im sure there were some people who believed in Sasuke. I personally didn't know who would come out on top. It could've played out in different scenarios.. maybe Sasuke could've won the fight itself but still have his ideology changed. There was nothing for certain heck there were Sasuke fans and others saying Sakura would come to Naruto's rescue. Unless the Viz comes up with a different interpretation of what Sasuke said then nothings going to change. Sasuke himself stated that he lost and its time for you guys to stop being in denial suger coating it.