[Discussion] It doesn't matter who won.

Romy9

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This was the best chapter in the entire manga, the Naruto and Sasuke situation came to a perfect conclusion with them reconciling and I like how Sasuke always felt the same way about Naruto that Naruto felt about him.

The silent and mysterious types always have the deepest connection with their emotions. Sasuke is no exception. Lol
 

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"It doesn't matter who won"

Spoken like a true
sensible person :win:
 

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It's funny though how in the most emotional chapter fanboys can still argue over that. Personally when I saw Sasuke shedding tears I couldn't believe it and then I got emotional :(
 

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It's funny though how in the most emotional chapter fanboys can still argue over that. Personally when I saw Sasuke shedding tears I couldn't believe it and then I got emotional :(

I got overly emotional when Sasuke saw Itachi in Naruto. Yeah, there are probably rare members who see through "who won" case.
 

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Well put. I thought the ending was going to feel rushed but I really enjoyed this finale. I can't wait to see the last chapter next week.
 

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I got overly emotional when Sasuke saw Itachi in Naruto. Yeah, there are probably rare members who see through "who won" case.

Well my favourite is Naruto but right now I couldn't care less. It was so nice to see Sasuke finally expressing his feelings, it was like he was purified. To hold such pain inside of him for so many years while posing as the coldest person ever must have been preety difficult and painful for him :(
 

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Well my favourite is Naruto but right now I couldn't care less. It was so nice to see Sasuke finally expressing his feelings, it was like he was purified. To hold such pain inside of him for so many years while posing as the coldest person ever must have been preety difficult and painful for him :(

Same here. I was always on Naruto's side, but Sasuke outdid it this time. He's the one who makes this chapter the best in the manga. Lol
 

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In a way Sasuke was like his brother, holding in his feelings and pushing others away not letting them in when they would only want to help
 

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Same here. I was always on Naruto's side, but Sasuke outdid it this time. He's the one who makes this chapter the best in the manga. Lol

NEW FLAME WAR: WAS NARUTO OR SASUKE THE ONE MADE "NARUTO" MANGA WHAT WE LOVE? XD

I can so see this being questioned XD
 

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The chapter was beautiful, sasuke is my fav and I can safely say this is Like the first time he is speaking his heart and embracing it, its been a loong time since I saw this side Of him, brilliant. I give naruto credit for making sasuke see him like itachi, very nice. Also now we know why narutos hand was bandaged in the last, am sure sasuke also has a bandaged Hand. Expecting sakura to show up with the healing and all
 
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This was an excellent chapter for many reasons, but the ones that stood out the most were the following.
Because Sasuke was not the main character, we never saw more than the tip of his feelings and reasons for his actions. On the other hand Naruto, being the main character, was a reflection of the reader, and thus had things explained (and he himself explained) things clearly. But in the end the characters showed their growth in the one area where many of their fans are currently disagreeing.

Naruto has spent the entire manga chasing after Sasuke, and it is likely that his "goal" was to defeat him. However he refused to see the conclusion to their fight as a victory for himself because, as he said, this is not the fight that he wanted, rather it was him beating sense into a friend. Sasuke on the other hand has spent the entire manga believing himself to be ahead of Naruto (and more often than not was) and his "goal" seemed to be, instead of defeating Naruto, to never lose to Naruto. Despite this, in the end he uttered the words that he never wanted to say ("I lost") and did so with no bitterness in his heart. To bring closure to their long battle they formed the reconciliation seal in the blood of their lost dominant hands. Very fitting indeed. What do you think?
 

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This was an excellent chapter for many reasons, but the ones that stood out the most were the following.
Because Sasuke was not the main character, we never saw more than the tip of his feelings and reasons for his actions. On the other hand Naruto, being the main character, was a reflection of the reader, and thus had things explained (and he himself explained) things clearly. But in the end the characters showed their growth in the one area where many of their fans are currently disagreeing.

Naruto has spent the entire manga chasing after Sasuke, and it is likely that his "goal" was to defeat him. However he refused to see the conclusion to their fight as a victory for himself because, as he said, this is not the fight that he wanted, rather it was him beating sense into a friend. Sasuke on the other hand has spent the entire manga believing himself to be ahead of Naruto (and more often than not was) and his "goal" seemed to be, instead of defeating Naruto, to never lose to Naruto. Despite this, in the end he uttered the words that he never wanted to say ("I lost") and did so with no bitterness in his heart. To bring closure to their long battle they formed the reconciliation seal in the blood of their lost dominant hands. Very fitting indeed. What do you think?

Pretty good summerization though I agree because none of his goals will become a reality and that in itself is his defeat but I guess they call it "An Ideological Defeat" but Naruto was the one who got the last hit in and put Sasuke in that mountain side so a win is a win no matter how it is achieved.
 

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To readers who still have common sense and some sense of appreciation for good writing, Kishimoto outdid himself here. The battle which started poorly progressed to the point of finishing gloriously.

Sasuke as a character reached his peak here. He was simply awesome. He admitted many things and even shed tears. That was harder than any battle he faced up until now. He became a man, embracing his true feelings.

Naruto was the true answer to everything. Ashura himself wasn't enough. Naruto is the new Itachi to Sasuke now. A brother. This chapter values something much more than power. Fanboys, don't just value power.
bro, u sure you have not injected estrogen instead of testosteron? or you one of them lamp men? manjina?

it was cheesy, horrible, horrible and cheesy. 'look how deep we are, we can't pull it out'
 

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bro, u sure you have not injected estrogen instead of testosteron? or you one of them lamp men? manjina?

it was cheesy, horrible, horrible and cheesy. 'look how deep we are, we can't pull it out'

Have you asked yourself if you injected to much testosteron? showing emotion is a sign of maturity and how they've come and your lack of it makes you look like those type that think showing emotion makes a person look gay because he has feeling's...
 

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Have you asked yourself if you injected to much testosteron? showing emotion is a sign of maturity and how they've come and your lack of it makes you look like those type that think showing emotion makes a person look gay because he has feeling's...
HAHAHAHAHAH 'maturity'. there is only one kind of maturity and it is physiological. there is no such thing as mental maturity except for the cultural constructs. yes, it is horrible to show feelings (not emotions, those are two different things). for a man. or maybe you are one of them, 'modern', progressive men (LOL), effaminated jinnies looking for their Alladin to get some love rubbed in.

it was emo. this is what kishi is writing. I don't know about his love life, but judging by the riting alone, he likes butt secs.
 

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bro, u sure you have not injected estrogen instead of testosteron? or you one of them lamp men? manjina?

it was cheesy, horrible, horrible and cheesy. 'look how deep we are, we can't pull it out'

Bruh, trust me, I have TOO MUCH testosterone in me. Dealing with emotions is the exact thing that makes a man man. Coincidentally, I sorta described you just now.
 

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HAHAHAHAHAH 'maturity'. there is only one kind of maturity and it is physiological. there is no such thing as mental maturity except for the cultural constructs. yes, it is horrible to show feelings (not emotions, those are two different things). for a man. or maybe you are one of them, 'modern', progressive men (LOL), effaminated jinnies looking for their Alladin to get some love rubbed in.

it was emo. this is what kishi is writing. I don't know about his love life, but judging by the riting alone, he likes butt secs.

Spend 15 year's of your life writing a manga and see at the end the type of person you turn out to be.
 

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Bruh, trust me, I have TOO MUCH testosterone in me. Dealing with emotions is the exact thing that makes a man man. Coincidentally, I sorta described you just now.
Ama sis, not bruh and yes you have described me right, but even for a girl this shit is too much. you have watched too many hollywood movies to think that dealing with feelings makes a man "balboa, it is alright to shed a tear. remember it is not a weakness but a river of a giant. now go and push these rocky formations" and all similar bullcrap about embracing weakness for the sake of some 'deep' greatness in becoming a *****. I see 'men' like this everyday, 'caring' for their skin, lips and depilating bodies like some balding apes. true man deals with the world, he bends it,kicks in the gutter and spits in the face o his enemy. there is no "but deep in my soul, I feel like I could have done more', true men always do more.
 

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Spend 15 year's of your life writing a manga and see at the end the type of person you turn out to be.
so now thanks to you, we have discovered, one of the reasons behind homosexuality. write a manga and become a faygoth. no thank you.
 

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Ama sis, not bruh and yes you have described me right, but even for a girl this shit is too much. you have watched too many hollywood movies to think that dealing with feelings makes a man "balboa, it is alright to shed a tear. remember it is not a weakness but a river of a giant. now go and push these rocky formations" and all similar bullcrap about embracing weakness for the sake of some 'deep' greatness in becoming a *****. I see 'men' like this everyday, 'caring' for their skin, lips and depilating bodies like some balding apes. true man deals with the world, he bends it,kicks in the gutter and spits in the face o his enemy. there is no "but deep in my soul, I feel like I could have done more', true men always do more.

If you're not a man then how can you be sure about how men should and feel like act?
 
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