That's not what I am suggesting. I am suggesting its mechanical working, in which itIn case you didn't know what a hyperbole is, "Absorbs ALL attacks" "Blocks ALL attacks" that is hyperbolic DB text. No Limits Fallacy. I don't know why you and Strict are on about this "Its not a hyperbole, its a description of its ability" stuff when that makes no sense. "Blocks ALL attacks" is a hyperbole. Perfect example of the No Limits Fallacy in action, you are attempting to give no Limits to Yata and say its a valid assertion.
Me not saying Yata repels every attack=/=Me disregarding everything the DB has ever said.You must be registered for see linksaccording to the attack, not "blocking all attacks." There's a clear distinction between hyperbole and a description of mechanics, Yata legitimately changes its characteristics to match the incoming attack, this is how it works, yet you disregard it as hype despite it being a description. So no, that part is no limits fallacy, the description is not, hence the characteristics of Yata change according to the incoming attack. So FRS is hitting Yata, it becomes FRS vs FRS, and its repulsion will negate it similarly to how Shinra Tensei dispersed it.
Hollows out a mountain means that its virtually inexistent apart from its edge, since the entire mountain is hollowed out and a concave is formed.Bijuu Dama vaporizes large Mountains. Chou Oodama Rasengan hollows out a Mountain.
1. Which could be a small Mountain.
2. Not even up to 50% of a Mountain's mass needs to be displaced in order for it to be considered hollowed out.
So no, its not comparable to Bijuu Dama, nor is any Mountain Hollower comparable to Bijuu Dama.
1. Yes, still isn't happening.
2. Yes it does, since the entire mountain is hollows out as the DB suggests. Added with the fact that DB says its done easily, it's definitely not 50%.
Relative to, I meant, and it is based on this, since its hollowing out entire mountains easily. At the very least, it's far above COFRS's feats by this.
But they aren't mountain hollowers, so no. And Naruto's chakra is merged with Kurama's, so I'd assume it is in fact stronger than his normal Kurama form. Kurama's skin and flesh have nothing to suggest they are highly durable to penetrative/high pressure attacks in his alive form. Similarly to how Hachibi's v2 has more durability than Hachibi in his full BM, in terms of penetrative attacks, whereas in his chakra form, penetrative attacks almost 'lose their meaning' seeing how v2 Jin's have tanked Raikiri/Kusanagi sword yet Hachibi lost his Horn to Ay's chop and its tails to Obito's shuriken's/Sasuke's Chidori Eiso. So no, FRS doesn't touch a v3 or a chakra based Kurama, it's tanked rather easily. The only thing its penetrating is the first layer of flesh/skin of Kurama which would likely inflict massive pain, but definitely not penetrate his muscle's layer/anything deeper than his external flesh.V3 Susanoo tanking a barrage of Mountain Hollowing attacks is ridiculous, not when Danzo's Fuuton tore it open.
Kurama Avatar is nothing but Kurama in a chakra form, as the manga has shown. There is no difference between their physical stats, and Kurama is still more durable than a Complete Susanoo, yet it was heavily damaged by Rasen Shuriken. FRS tears a V3 Susanoo apart, so no, Danzo's Fuuton is not stronger. Not by hype or by feats.
@bold: Kurama=/=Kurama Avatar in physical abilities. Not to mention it used its tails against the Juubi Laser, FRS hit it directly. No comparison can be made.
I believe there's a contradiction in the two bolded's. And yes, I never suggested complete Susano was comparable to Kyuubi's durability, but Kyuubi's only amazing bodily durability parts from pre-RM Naruto are its tails, so saying his body was supposed to tank FRS neg diff is similar to saying Hachibi's body would get cut in half by Obito's shurikens since his tails did. And even then it isn't a great comparison, since v3 was reverted to v2, not to v1 nor to nothingness.
But I showed you the DB quote, it said the entire mountain. Yes, I've seen that, that wasn't FRS's explosion but the debris it created. The rest has pretty much been debunked in the part that Chou Odama Rasengan doesn't hollow out mountains when COFRS can't.Because not all Mountains are the same size, nor does hollowing out a Mountain mean that the whole Mountain has to be hollowed out. Here is a post from lanakui's thread, a reply to pretty much the same exact thing you are saying.
You can't take an inbetween. Everyone knows Rasengan can dent a part of the mountain, but suggesting it's a large portion of it is conjecture, and suggesting it's the entire mountain because the DB said so is fallacy.COR isn't going to hollow out an entire Mountain, but it will make a hole in it.
Then there's the fact that FRS isn't being compared to just one SM COR, but 25 SM Chou oodama Rasengans.
It has established a limit on it, hollowing a Mountain. So no, its not hyperbole. Lol. Not to mention all Mountains aren't the same size, nor does hollowing out an entire Mountain mean that the entire Mountain literally has to be emptied out.
Yes, but there's also the fact that it's not hollowing out 25 mountains.
Yes, a limit beyond its capabilities. FRS cannot hollow out a mountain or anything relative to that no matter how small the mountain is in NV (that we've seen to this date). So either you are claiming Chou Odama Rasengan is stronger than FRS or the DB is wrong and there's nothing to base Chou Odama Rasengan's power on. And yes it does, don't know how you can come to such a fallacious conclusion. Hollowing out an entire mountain is hollowing out an entire mountain, simple as that.
That's what you are suggesting, to an extent.Except he can't.
But I'm not, I take into account that the Raiton used is far more powerful than any chakra based Raiton, I factor in the fact that its heat is greater than a Katon's and by a massive amount at that, I take into account that Kirin was shape manipulated, and shape manipulated Raiton has piercing properties to it, along with the blunt force showcased which made massive chunks of rocks go flying away. If anything, Kirin has one of the highest levels of energy exertion per time (microsecond?) in all of NV's jutsu shown (bar god tier). And no, I have no reason to judge FRS of debris, that's one of the most biased arguments I see in Naruto's support. Why disregard every FRS explosion to go with the debris explosion and say 'that's FRS's size'? FRS is this [The only fallacious thing is you using AoE alone to determine the strength of an attack.You must be registered for see links, so even if you want to play it by AoE, FRS still has the advantage.
Not to mention Kirin raped V3 so it doesn't even need to be as powerful as Kirin to do moderate damage to it, meaning Nukite tears right through it...though its powerful enough to do heavy damage to it regardless.You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links][You must be registered for see links]. It's never been remotely comparable to 1/10th of the CT..
.Yes, it was, but it still was just barely raped, since Itachi survived, and against someone who doesn't have Sasuke's (Indra/Madara's) level of chakra potency, which was glorified by Kurama in the past prior to his MS/EMS upgrades.
Umm, no. Killer bee and Sasuke's position were right by each other, and that's before Bee even activated his cloak completely [Sasuke physically performed his dodging maneuver when he was close to bee, yet he saw bee from a mile away. Later Sasuke only noticed bee when he was a lot closer and thus wasn't in a position to physically react like before which is why karin implies he's in danger. Sasuke showed that he could perceive bee's linear movements if he saw bee at a distance, not when bee pops up relatively close to him which is why he told karin to keep track of his position.You must be registered for see links]. You then see bee jump, attack, and thus Sasuke dodging from nearly point blank range. So no, it wasn't a distance at all, he was simply scared of v1 Bee's massive punch AOE, since he destroyed the entire area the last time he jumped into the floor, something unavoidable.
Speed gives a greater power output, so if he wanted to overpower Bee he would've gone faster. And that's not a way of invalidating manga scans, Kishi allowed for said instance to happen and thus the feat applies. Not to mention that this was likely early part 1, which holds no relevance in this discussion nor is a valid example of your attempted point. And yes, that's true, but then again his speed was always glorified by putting him close to Minato, which is his v2. I never claimed Bee's v1>Ay's v2, that's false, I said his v1/v2 speed>Ay's v1. The difference in Ay's v1 to v2 is massive and the manga has shown that. Only people who are massive emphasised for speed are Ay, Minato, KCM/BM Naruto and Sasuke. No other characters have comparable emphasis bar Kaguya, Madara, Juubito etc. Not being shown that he is renowned for it doesn't mean he isn't renowned for it at all NV, "the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence, as a wise man said," Lol.Characters don't always move at their fastest speeds, Ei's cloak affects his physical strength, the wanted to physically overpower bee which is why he doesn't try to blitz him. There are plenty of instances where a character pops out of the left field in order to save another, I can bring up the scan where base naruto traveled dozens of meters before sasuke could complete a kunai swing, that doesn't mean base naruto's speed > sasuke's speed. Ei's speed was the pinnacle of speed at that time in the manga, if bee was faster than him in V1, then he'd be well renowned for his speed especially when he still has V2.
I read it, I addressed it to KG as well, basing Kirin's explosion on debris is fallacious, I showed several scans of FRS and none of them correspond to the Debris released, since the Futon can merely push it in such a manner. Chou Odama Rasengan isn't ever hollowing out an entire mountain, not when FRS doesn't have the capacity to do so, so that is well, can be deemed erroneous.You must be registered for see links
That is indeed a good point, but I don't see it comparing either way. There's much more to lightning then mere electric current and penetrative force (in Kirin), there's heat above any Katon shown bar potentially Ama (normal lightning is 50 thousand farenheit, don't get me started on lightning nearly the size of a small mountain), there's penetrative and blunt force, whereas Hellstab only posses the former, there's a far larger electric current, and a less penetrative potential given its width, which isn't the constituent significance of its v3 vaporisation.Kirin might be a penetrating attack, but look at how wide it is compared to hellstab. The AoE of kirin is almost as big as the entire roof of the uchiha complex, the AoE of the hellstab is concentrated on to the tip of a spear, that makes the hellstab magnitudes more penetrating if all things are equal.
Looked like it took time to me [I don't think we can rule out V4 being used. If itachi has enough chakra built up in his eye, he can instantly pull out higher version of susanoo like V3, why not V4 as well?
Susanoo was never stated or implied to have had a weakspot from behind, danzou was refering to the opening he made in susanoo after he blew it open. If Baku's suction was powerful enough to put danzou's fuuton at or above FRS's level, we would have got a statment of people being blown away by the power of danzou's attack. Baku's suction hardly even increased the size of sasuke's katon.You must be registered for see links], and do note that this is after v2 was already formed, yet supposed to have occurred in about 1/1000th of a second. I just don't see it.
I know that, just a plausibility I suggested. No, all we need to look at is what his Futon did to v3 formed by a more potent chakra than Itachi's, which is the determinant of Susano's durability and power. Kirin destroyed a v3, whereas Danzo's enhanced attack could only open up the part it made contact with. And I don't see where the basis of Danzo's Futon having to need feats for being much stronger than FRS, his Futon was able to revert v3 to v2, that is all it did, and that's with Baku's suction. FRS will need more feats to justify it cutting through v3, let alone taking out an entire Susano/reverting it to v1.
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And a few things on Naruto's subconscious.
-Naruto can defy gravity and float within his subconscious [
-How can Hachibi catch a TBB in his hand until its entire momentum energy is gone [
-Since when could Naruto make 30-40 SM clones, and have each of those SM clones utilise a Gargantuan rasengan [
-Naruto can defy gravity and float within his subconscious [
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It was Daruis Raiton and yes his weapons stay infused with Raiton even when hes not in contact with them. I already explained this to you in our old Hanzo vs Darui debate.
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Madara not casting Genjutsu on Ay until he was distracted openly shows that he can't. Its really that simple. He caught him in Susanoo's hand because he needed to in order to land Genjutsu. Once again, that simple. You going on about how Madara didn't go all out on them, but how in the world is that relevant to him using Sharingan Genjutsu? Him holding back only means he held back his full power. Don't try and say he didn't go for the kill, when he was about to kill Ay had Onoki not saved him.
And landing beneath its fist? 100% sure that he blocked its attack, since you can see his arm holding Susanoo's arm upward. Ay had the offensive advantage, he had no reason to outspeed Susanoo, nor is him doing this any kind of proof that he can't outspeed Susanoo.
If you expect me, or anyone else who reads this manga objectively, to come to the conclusion that Madara could have grabbed Ay and one shotted him with Genjutsu that whole time, but only chose to do so when Ay was distracted, then you might as well stop here.
Him and Ay having the same fighting style means that I can accurately compare him to Ay, who didn't get hit with Genjutsu or caught by Susanoo until he was distracted, so I pretty much have no reason to consider your argumentation when the manga completely disagrees. That simple. Someone identical to Ay fought a stronger Uchiha and didn't get caught by Susanoo or hit with Genjutsu until he was distracted, thus its not happening here. I don't care about whatever scenario you think is going to go down here.
Its always the Uchiha fans who cry about people hating on the Uchiha. Its always a fan crying about someone hating on the characters they fan. Ridiculous. I've already posted why Genjutsu GG is nothing but a nonsencal conclusion, yet you keep repeating the same thing, at this point all you are doing is stretching out your initial statements.
Ay not using his max speed is not any different from his father, except for durability and firepower, which the 3rd trumps Ay, so yes, I can argue with Ay as there is literally nothing that would invalidate a comparison. The rest has been replied to. Over and over again.
Like Madara did to Ay amirite? Lol. Lets stop this nonsense. "Genjutsu wasn't a factor against Ay or the Gokage" is nothing but an empty, hollow statement that I have no reason to take into account as its backed by nothing but this ridiculous Genjutsu wank. Ay fought Madara's clones, the moment he was distracted, the first thing he did was snatch him up and land Genjutsu on him so he could go for the kill. Yet you are pretty much implying that "by feats" he could have done that any time he wanted, yet waited till he was distracted to do it.
Joke argumentation is a joke.
Featwise, Sasuke has what it needs to fulfill what I explained.
I've posted why, your complaining isn't going to make my argument vanish into thin air.
Might as well.
Uh, Hachibi isn't in Naruto's mind/soul, Kurama is, so no that doesn't apply to him. Naruto being able to float doesn't mean his moves get any stronger.
B's partial transformation=/=A hand from B's full Bijuu Mode. Not to mention that Bijuu Dama was by far the weakest one ever used by a full Bijuu, considering its size. Hachibi tosses Bijuu around with ease. Not surprised he can catch a Bijuu Dama that small.
Naruto was still in the real world, thus he can continuously gather Nature Energy, meaning all he needs is the chakra reserves (on his own) to pull off a feat like that, and we all know that Naruto can make boatloads of clones and still have power left to fight, so no. that isn't an issue either.
No, there isn't. If a description of an attack implies that it has no limits, then its a no limits fallacy. Yata's "true" description only says it will change properties to block the attack. You, and the rest of the people who hype Yata up are the ones giving it no limits by trying to say it'll do that to every single attack.
I'll concede everything about it hollowing out a whole Mountain.
The fact that Kurama took Rasen Shuriken with no cuts means that his skin is not the same as the Hachibi's, so no. There is nothing that suggests Kurama Avatar=/=Kurama when talking about physical capabilities, not when the Avatar IS Kurama.
Hachibi is Hachibi, this is Kurama. Not to mention Hachibi is way more durable than his V2 self, unless you think that V2 would tank things as strong as Bijuu Dama.
I meant to say that there is no difference between them in physical abilities.
His body took FRS, but he was moderately injured, not heavily, nor did it cut through him, meaning his body is durable. Not to mention with a Senjutsu enhancement Kurama's main body took a drop slam that created a crater much deeper than any Mountain, and as wide as the space between two Shinju branches, which is over Mountain Sized. Take away that Senjutsu enhancement and you still have something extremely durable, which doesn't even count the tails.
Itachi was hit, and he was shown with no Susanoo. So no, it wasn't reverted to V2, it was completely obliterated.
A smoke cloud after an explosion looks nothing like what was shown in that panel, that was all caused by Rasen Shuriken's explosion.
A smoke cloud is just a smoke cloud, that is an explosion. [
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Something equal to Rasengan made that hole, thus a Chou Oodama Rasengan will make a similar size concave in a small Mountain, meaning 25 of them would do much worse to a Mountain, and FRS is much stronger, so whether or not one can hollow out a Mountain, 25 of them probably almost destroy a small Mountain and 1 FRS is much stronger, thus my argument still stands.
Which really isn't special since no chakra based Raiton weaker than Kirin is worth anything when referring to this scale of attacks.
Yeah, yet you don't even know much the hear really contributed to the attack.
Most of Sasuke's Raiton are shape manipulated.
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That wasn't a dust cloud, as you can clearly see by comparing it to pretty much, every single dust cloud in the manga, nor was that debris. That was clearly an explosion. And:
Itachi was knocked to the floor by the impact and lost his coat. That isn't barely raped, nor is there any real difference between Sasuke or Itachi's Complete Susanoo in durability, as feats show.
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The feats in his mind definitely don't count. When was Naruto able to fly or take people's chakra? Not to mention he's never done anything even remotely close to that level outside. Not even when the Kyuubi lended him chakra (Im looking at how he countered Jokai Koutan as well).
The Kyuubi got a massive nerf as well, even the Hachibi has better tanking feats than what Kurama showed in Naruto's mind. Kurama wasn't use Flash Bijudama or Renzoku Bijudama either.
Another point to show that Powerlevels weren't in play was the fact that the Hachbi's hand tanked and contained a Full Bijudama.
How is this even a debate? Sasuke destroys.
The Kyuubi got a massive nerf as well, even the Hachibi has better tanking feats than what Kurama showed in Naruto's mind. Kurama wasn't use Flash Bijudama or Renzoku Bijudama either.
Another point to show that Powerlevels weren't in play was the fact that the Hachbi's hand tanked and contained a Full Bijudama.
How is this even a debate? Sasuke destroys.
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And how is Naruto flying proof that all his moves were stronger than usual? Naruto was only able to take chakra because he was fighting his Bijuu, not because being in his mind gave him the ability to do so.
Hachibi took a lot of damage from a Bijuu Dama while Kurama took moderate damage from FRS, and got right back up afterward. I don't see how he was nerfed.
Apex posted a scan of that Bijuu Dama, and I'm 100% sure that isn't anywhere close to a full sized one.
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It shows that he gained special abilities that he wouldn't have while not inside of his head. This is what I meant by taking chakra as well [
There's still no proof he can replicate that kind of DC outside of his head either.
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He couldn't even stand up afterwards [
Something that could tank a Bijudama would shake an FRS off like it was nothing.
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It wasn't anywhere near as big as usual (another point to him being nerfed) but it was the same size as an average Biju's. (Mouth Size)
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Cmon now :| Not a lot of people even know that. Its really not a bad misconception.
The burden of proof would be on you to show that naruto is incapable of doing what he did in the kurama fight while in the real world.
Plus, DC or not, we've seen in the mind fight that SM FRS > 25 SM chou oodama rasengans. Naruto in the real world was able to use at least 10 of those against pain (entered SM 5 times), and that's before he trained in order to extend the amount of time he could be in sennin mode. In the war arc, Naruto used 3 SM FRS per one sennin mode, and even used a senpou chou oodama rasenshuriken which completely blows everything he used against kurama out of the water.
So he's actually shown greater DC in real life.
Then there's the fact that way back in the immortal's arc, base Naruto was able to make 200 clones try to enhance their rasengans with fuuton for hours at a time. we've seen that Naruto in his fight with kurama did senpou chou oodama rasengan by first creating base rasengans, and then powering them up by either natural energy or senjutsu into SM chou oodama rasengans. Why wouldn't naruto be able to do the same thing when he could already make far larger armies of clones way back in the immortal's arc?
That's probably has to do with the rasenshuriken's ability to destroy the chakra network. It's doesn't possess as much raw power as a bijuudama, but it did take kurama some time to regenerate from the cellular damage done to it. Same thing happened with sandaime raikage when he got hit with the rasenshuriken as he was slow to get up despite taking barely any damage from it and having edo regen.
see above argument and then SM FRS's power when it just blows up instead of turning into the wind sphere:Chibaku tensei crater and mountains:
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Pretty sure you only said he was weakened, not so weakened that he couldn't stand up afterward. Regardless, the way things look, I'm probably going to end up agreeing with lanakui8,
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But Hachibi said that fight took place within Naruto's soul, thus he was weakened. Kurama wouldn't be excluded in this weakening, he was in Naruto's mind/soul similarly to how Hachibi was, they aren't permanently part of it, they are simply temporary visitors. Kurama would also be weakened in that regard. Either way, Iankui's FRS explosion example is fallacious. I have showed you more than enough explosions to show that it's not that large, that was merely debris that even Temari could push that high. Don't understand this logic to be honest, since when was FRS many times higher and wider than mountains, when COFRS isn't?
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Kurama isn't a temporary visitor in Naruto's soul, he is sealed inside Naruto. Hachibi is a temporary visitor. Thus he was weakened.
And no, its not fallacious. I've showed you real explosions, and that isn't just "a dust cloud" from an explosion, its an explosion. That much should be clear. Not to mention blowing debris around is what an explosion does, and since when could Temari do anything on that scale?
Dust and debris from post explosion.
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What you saw is an explosion. You say its just dirt and debris from an explosion, but FRS has never created something that large ever again, so if I used your logic, I'd be invalidating that feat altogether.
He later was about to hit Naruto with a Super Sized Bijuu Dama after losing his chakra, so no, I doubt he was nerfed.
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the hachibi was weakened because he exists within bee, and both exist outside of the seal. Kurama exists inside of the seal, therefore he was not weakened. Further proof that this did not apply to kurama is the fact that bee and the hachibi couldn't even manifest themselves, only part of themselves, within naruto while yang kurama is there in full power and form.
Please present your argument as in scans that show explosions that falsify my example.
COFRS exploded into a wind sphere which is simply far more concentrated than a normal explosion. The FRS that blew up in the chibaku tensei crater just blew up, it didn't turn into the sphere of fuuton needles, thus we got to see the raw power of the attack when it's not concentrated on such a small area of effect.
There's even more proof that it's exactly as powerful as a I claim it to be in the kurama fight when it damages kurama more than 25 mountain hollowing attacks. Even if you make the unsupported claim that naruto's for some reason was much stronger than he normally was, that doesn't affect SM FRS > 25 SM chou oodama rasengans.
Finally, BM naruto's rasenshuriken was powerful enough to cut through the juubi's tails. These are the same tails that withstood a bijuudama from bee, V1 enhanced giant cutting fuutons from temari and the other wind users, V1 enhanced chakra blades from mifune and the samurai and V1 enhanced air palms from the hyuuga clan.
So literally all the evidence points compellingly to what I'm asserting that SM FRS is at.
While I agree Sandaime wins I have to agree with Apêx here on the SFRS point. It's powerful but not THAT powerful.
I don't believe it's more powerful than 25 SCOR. Kurama being overwhelmed by it still doesn't change my mind because he just took a huge attack before with no time to recover and it could have been the nature of SFRS that winded him and by nature I mean the way it damages. It severs all chakra tubes and the whole chakra network which would be super effective against Kurama because he's a large mass of chakra and destroying his chakra network like that made it much easier for Naruto to steal his chakra from him.
I don't believe it's more powerful than 25 SCOR. Kurama being overwhelmed by it still doesn't change my mind because he just took a huge attack before with no time to recover and it could have been the nature of SFRS that winded him and by nature I mean the way it damages. It severs all chakra tubes and the whole chakra network which would be super effective against Kurama because he's a large mass of chakra and destroying his chakra network like that made it much easier for Naruto to steal his chakra from him.
What reason do you have to believe that it's not that power?
....kurama took SM FRS a chapter before he took 25 SM Chou oodama rasengans to the chest, if anything he was weaker before taking the 25 SM chou oodama rasengans than before he took the SM FRS.
Not only was kurama incapacitated by the SM FRS (which you could argue is due to the nature of the attack), but he was also visually damaged by the SM FRS while he received no visual damage from 25 SM chou oodama rasengans. So regardless of the nature of the FRS, it's still more powerful than the SM COR barrage.
Then there's all the other feats of SM FRS that just prove it's stronger than the barrage like blowing up half the chibaku tensei crater, or cutting the juubi's tails.
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It was the same sized TBB as the one created during the war.
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It was the same sized TBB as the one created during the war.