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Gaara had Shukaku... Naruto didn't use Kurama during his fight with Neji, it was during the chuunin exams if they saw kurama's chakra he would've been disqualified and detained.
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Gamabunta is a summoning. Summonings are techs. So you fail.
kurama is also his chakra. Saying naruto cant use kurama is like saying sasuke cant use sharingan.

still got beat up and caught.


Well who's fault is that? Sasuke wanted to fight Naruto immediately after the war, thinking he would easily win. Didnt happen like that

Summonings are a separate entity. They are conscience, sentient beings separate from the summoner, and therefore, would be no different than any other 2 vs 1, such as Itachi and Kisame vs Jiraiya. Gamabunta isn't a part of Naruto's power.
 

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Since we're taking away powers now, Naruto without kurama he still has sage mode. And guess what? Naruto always had more drive than Sasuke. Even though Naruto had poor chakra control he always kept up with sasuke(perfect example- Tree climbing exercise)

But anyways, Naruto without Kurama, Naruto has better chakra control, Minato would've been alive to teach him techniques such as FTG probably, etc.
Sasuke highest potential would be MS- And even after that he would've eventually went blind and still not be able to beat Naruto.

Still want to take away powers?
Im not taking away powers, i requested a list of people beaten by naruto under certain conditions, just like my opponent did.

SM is behind MS and if itachi taught sasuke, sasuke would beat naruto anyway.

Naruto only had poor chakra control due to seal oro placed, after lifted he learned to walk on water right away. He learned shadow clones jutsu in matter of nothing and rasengan in 7 days. He matched sasuke in tree climbing due to sakura advice, and if i recall he nearly fell and got saved by sasuke.
 

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@Bolded: And that is why what you are saying isn't true. You yourself have just admitted that having to kill your best friend is something that would be wanted to be done as quickly as possible. Not because you are desperate and because they are better than you, but because they are your best friend. But now, it doesn't apply to Sasuke? Why? Because you have a need to ¨rustle jimmies¨ on a forum, and a need for Naruto>Sasuke, and that, to me, is sad.

The fact that Sasuke is still alive after Naruto started using killing intent is proof that Naruto isn't stronger than Sasuke. The fact that Naruto isn't dead proves that Sasuke isn't stronger than Naruto. Therefore, they are even. Case closed.

I never said that it doesn't apply to Sasuke. Maybe he does want to end it as quick as possible because that's his best friend, I never said that, that wasn't true. What I said was that he couldn't do it. And you never answered me before, when did Naruto use killing intent? Naruto said he's not gonna kill and Sasuke even acknowledged it and said something like "If you keep this up you'll die" or Something like "Still don't have what it takes to kill me?"
 

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Summonings are a separate entity. They are conscience, sentient beings separate from the summoner, and therefore, would be no different than any other 2 vs 1, such as Itachi and Kisame vs Jiraiya. Gamabunta isn't a part of Naruto's power.

But my friend, it is a technique. Summoning Technique. Cost chakra and blood. Its a jutsu
 

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Summonings are a separate entity. They are conscience, sentient beings separate from the summoner, and therefore, would be no different than any other 2 vs 1, such as Itachi and Kisame vs Jiraiya. Gamabunta isn't a part of Naruto's power.

Wow, well you got me there. But I doubt he used any juubi enhanced techs on neji.
 

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Kurama's chakra would reenergize him, every time Kurama gave him chakra, he'd no longer feel tired.

And Kurama's chakra slightly leaking out in part 1 completely closed up the hole in his right pectoral, imagine what it can do now.

That's because Kurama gave him more chakra which replenished his stamina, it didn't heal his body of all wounds. That regenerated Naruto's cells to heal him, that didn't fully heal his body of all damages. KM Naruto was training to form a tbb Rasengan and burned his hand, it still hurted him in KM, it didn't automatically heal and made him 100% healed and KM is the equivalent of 9 tails cloak mode version 1.

Why do you think Naruto was extremely exhausted when he used all of his KM chakra in the war? If the chakra heals him then he wouldn't be in such a state since it would heal him and keep his fatigue normal inside of barely being able to stand. The chakra replenish Naruto's stamina but he is fighting and receiving damages. Kurama enhances the speed Naruto heals but it doesn't heal his body fast, he would have to rest in the hospital but it still requires him to rest his body. Why would Sakura bother with healing Naruto's body if Kurama healed it?
 

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I never said that it doesn't apply to Sasuke. Maybe he does want to end it as quick as possible because that's his best friend, I never said that, that wasn't true. What I said was that he couldn't do it. And you never answered me before, when did Naruto use killing intent? Naruto said he's not gonna kill and Sasuke even acknowledged it and said something like "If you keep this up you'll die" or Something like "Still don't have what it takes to kill me?"
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The fact that Naruto pulled in an immense amount of Nature Energy and put it all into his attacks(his Sage Mode ran out right after, showing he lost all of that Nature Energy) is proof that that was an attack with killing intent.
But my friend, it is a technique. Summoning Technique. Cost chakra and blood. Its a jutsu
The Summoning Jutsu is a technique indeed. It's a technique that brings a separate entity to fight for or with you. It brings a partner to you, making it more than just you. It's a technique that brings you help from another living thing. Therefore, not your power. Is it a jutsu? Yeah, but not like Rasengan or Chidori. It's no different than Minato using FTG to teleport a friend to his side because he isn't strong enough for his current enemy.
Wow, well you got me there. But I doubt he used any juubi enhanced techs on neji.

Desperate.
 

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Im not taking away powers, i requested a list of people beaten by naruto under certain conditions, just like my opponent did.

SM is behind MS and if itachi taught sasuke, sasuke would beat naruto anyway.

Naruto only had poor chakra control due to seal oro placed, after lifted he learned to walk on water right away. He learned shadow clones jutsu in matter of nothing and rasengan in 7 days. He matched sasuke in tree climbing due to sakura advice, and if i recall he nearly fell and got saved by sasuke.

I highly doubt that, Naruto with FTG and SM> Sasuke with amaterasu and enton. And you did take away powers stop lying. And Naruto had poor chakra control because he couldn't control it cause his chakra reserves were large as f*ck due to the kyuubi what manga are you reading? Him learning to walk on water was his determination, shadow clone jutsu was also determination so he can save Iruka, same thing for rasengan this proves his determination thank you for proving me right. And advice or not, it doesn't change the fact he was at a disadvantage to Sasuke and still matched him. And I'm not doubting you but I remember them both falling not just Naruto.
 

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The fact that Naruto pulled in an immense amount of Nature Energy and put it all into his attacks(his Sage Mode ran out right after, showing he lost all of that Nature Energy) is proof that that was an attack with killing intent.

The Summoning Jutsu is a technique indeed. It's a technique that brings a separate entity to fight for or with you. It brings a partner to you, making it more than just you. It's a technique that brings you help from another living thing. Therefore, not your power. Is it a jutsu? Yeah, but not like Rasengan or Chidori. It's no different than Minato using FTG to teleport a friend to his side because he isn't strong enough for his current enemy.


Desperate.

What page number was that? I need to read the pages before and after it to confirm something. Cause I remember him doing that to match Sasukes killing intent in order to negate it, not to kill him. And I'm not being desperate, if you show me a scan of him using bijuu enhanced techniques I will admit that you're right again. I'm not as arrogant as you think I am, I'm a very humble person who knows when he's wrong.
 

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The fact that Naruto pulled in an immense amount of Nature Energy and put it all into his attacks(his Sage Mode ran out right after, showing he lost all of that Nature Energy) is proof that that was an attack with killing intent.

The Summoning Jutsu is a technique indeed. It's a technique that brings a separate entity to fight for or with you. It brings a partner to you, making it more than just you. It's a technique that brings you help from another living thing. Therefore, not your power. Is it a jutsu? Yeah, but not like Rasengan or Chidori. It's no different than Minato using FTG to teleport a friend to his side because he isn't strong enough for his current enemy.


Desperate.

Honestly I still dont think he tried to kill Sasuke. Remember Sasuke absorbed all the bijuu and formed Indras arrow. Naruti used his tech to defend not to defeat.

He doesn't want to kill or fight Sasuke. He said both of those things.
 

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Honestly I still dont think he tried to kill Sasuke. Remember Sasuke absorbed all the bijuu and formed Indras arrow. Naruti used his tech to defend not to defeat.

He doesn't want to kill or fight Sasuke. He said both of those things.

Right, because putting all of the largest quantity(by far) of Nature Energy he's ever collected into an attack is soooo holding back. Defend, not to defeat? Both of their attacks are in the same position there, I can just as easily say Sasuke was defending, as Naruto formed his attack first.

He doesn't want to. But it wouldn't the first time Naruto's had to do something he didn't want to.
 

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Honestly I still dont think he tried to kill Sasuke. Remember Sasuke absorbed all the bijuu and formed Indras arrow. Naruti used his tech to defend not to defeat.

He doesn't want to kill or fight Sasuke. He said both of those things.

That's why I asked him for the page number^ that's what I'm trying to confirm.
 

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Right, because putting all of the largest quantity(by far) of Nature Energy he's ever collected into an attack is soooo holding back. Defend, not to defeat? Both of their attacks are in the same position there, I can just as easily say Sasuke was defending, as Naruto formed his attack first.

He doesn't want to. But it wouldn't the first time Naruto's had to do something he didn't want to.

Naruto hasnt attacked sasuke first. Sasuke initiated every attack. Naruto just reacted.

The Chidori-bijuu dama clash, Sasuke started.
Three susano'o arrows-three tsb clash. Sasuke.
Indras arrow-rasenbijuudamashuriken, sasuke.

Naruto just reacted. Of course he needed all of that senjutsu. Indras arrow is a hax move. Would one shot half of the world. Naruto needed to counter it.
 

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Naruto hasnt attacked sasuke first. Sasuke initiated every attack. Naruto just reacted.

The Chidori-bijuu dama clash, Sasuke started.
Three susano'o arrows-three tsb clash. Sasuke.
Indras arrow-rasenbijuudamashuriken, sasuke.

Naruto just reacted. Of course he needed all of that senjutsu. Indras arrow is a hax move. Would one shot half of the world. Naruto needed to counter it.

ok but naruto was going to wham Sasuke with Rasengan but was stopped by solo rock :|
 

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That's why I asked him for the page number^ that's what I'm trying to confirm.

Just go back to 592 and read on. You can tell Naruto doesnt want to fight Sasuke at all.
 

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Naruto hasnt attacked sasuke first. Sasuke initiated every attack. Naruto just reacted.

The Chidori-bijuu dama clash, Sasuke started.
Three susano'o arrows-three tsb clash. Sasuke.
Indras arrow-rasenbijuudamashuriken, sasuke.

Naruto just reacted. Of course he needed all of that senjutsu. Indras arrow is a hax move. Would one shot half of the world. Naruto needed to counter it.

Again this is what I wanted to confirm. Naruto could've killed Sasuke with his rasengan in the end too but he got "tired'' Naruto it the number one hyperactive knucklehead ninja. He could've finished him I know it, and idk why this dude is trying to argue that Naruto actually has killing intent, the dude said he didn't. Naruto's word is kishi's word what more does he want lol?
 

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Again this is what I wanted to confirm. Naruto could've killed Sasuke with his rasengan in the end too but he got "tired'' Naruto it the number one hyperactive knucklehead ninja. He could've finished him I know it, and idk why this dude is trying to argue that Naruto actually has killing intent, the dude said he didn't. Naruto's word is kishi's word what more does he want lol?
Exactly. I dont like either character but Sasuke had the advantage going into the fight against a weakned Naruto and is still not winning. Theyre fighting even but Naruto is still a level above Sasuke at the moment.
Cool bro :|

Was kidding ;) its free internet. Say whatever you want broski
 

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Naruto hasnt attacked sasuke first. Sasuke initiated every attack. Naruto just reacted.

The Chidori-bijuu dama clash, Sasuke started.
Three susano'o arrows-three tsb clash. Sasuke.
Indras arrow-rasenbijuudamashuriken, sasuke.

Naruto just reacted. Of course he needed all of that senjutsu. Indras arrow is a hax move. Would one shot half of the world. Naruto needed to counter it.

Ah I was mistaken, Sasuke created Indra's Arrow first. It still doesn't change that their strongest attacks hit each other, and cancelled out, then they beat each other to a standstill. Still even.
Again this is what I wanted to confirm. Naruto could've killed Sasuke with his rasengan in the end too but he got "tired'' Naruto it the number one hyperactive knucklehead ninja. He could've finished him I know it, and idk why this dude is trying to argue that Naruto actually has killing intent, the dude said he didn't. Naruto's word is kishi's word what more does he want lol?

You're confusing not wanting with not doing. Naruto doesn't want to use killing intent, doesn't mean he isn't. Same way i don't want to go school tomorrow, doesn't mean I'm not.
 
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