[VS] SM Naruto VS Juugo and MS Sasuke

[Pragmatic]

Location: Mount Myoboku

Intent: Capture Naruto for the Kyuubi

Intel: Little to none

Restrictions: Enton

Scenario 1. Naruto starts in SM

Scenario 2. Naruto has a clone gathering Nature Energy to enter SM but kyuubi chakra up to 7 tails can leak out if hes being beaten badly. Also Sasuke can use Senjutsu enhanced Susanoo against 7 tailed Naruto.

 

[LuckyMan]

Naruto wins both.

 

[Benjamin King]

Scenario 1 - Sasuke solos. Despite Naruto's sensory in SM, he failed to keep up with Madara's base speed. [

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] Amatersu travels almost instantaneous, meaning Naruto gets hit and burned. Then there is the Genjutsu one-shot.

Scenario 2 - With Bijuu cloak protecting him from Amatersu, Sasuke resorts to use greater fire-power. It can come from Senjutsu Susanoo, which cut off the Shinju's root, or Kirin blitzing and demolishing his existence.

Either way, Sasuke solos both.​

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke solos

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto still wins both scenarios

--He can sense the chakra built up for amaterasu well before the flames are spawned and therefore uses smoke bombs to block his LoS, whilst genjutsu is not happening thanks to SM sensing and KB

--He then proceeds to use COFRS to bypass all of sasukes susanoo variants with ease, and with him having clones at his disposal,, means that the probability of him falling for genjutsu, is minimised even more

--Susanoo arrows are evaded, or simply intercepted by FRS, as the jutsu blows through the arrow and crushes any susanoo under V4 (which sasuke cant maintain anyways), and restricting enton just makes narutos victory certain

--Jugo is non factor, he gets taken out by a single COR, and gets wrecked by Frog Katas and Shadow Clones, and sasuke approaching naruto at CQC would yield the same result as what jugo is facing here,

In the second scenario, not much changes, when COFRS followed by another FRS or COR will still bypass all of sasukes susanoos, as the dup then get wrecked afterwards, and Naruto going to 7th tails means that sasuke has no way of hurting him at all, bar genjutsu, however sseeing how naruto and kyuubi are cooperating here, means that even genjutsu is moot as naruto proceeds to eradicate sasuke with TBB or simply outlast him,

 

[Leathercandle]

Scenario 1 - Sasuke solos. Despite Naruto's sensory in SM, he failed to keep up with Madara's base speed. [

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] Amatersu travels almost instantaneous, meaning Naruto gets hit and burned. Then there is the Genjutsu one-shot.

Scenario 2 - With Bijuu cloak protecting him from Amatersu, Sasuke resorts to use greater fire-power. It can come from Senjutsu Susanoo, which cut off the Shinju's root, or Kirin blitzing and demolishing his existence.

Either way, Sasuke solos both.​

Naruto still wins both scenarios

--He can sense the chakra built up for amaterasu well before the flames are spawned and therefore uses smoke bombs to block his LoS, whilst genjutsu is non factor thanks to the partner method for kurama, and SM sensing and KB

--He then proceeds to use COFRS to bypass all of sasukes susanoo variants with ease, and with him having clones at his disposal,, means that the probability of him falling for amaterasu, is minimised even more

--Susanoo arrows are evaded, or simply intercepted by FRS, as the jutsu blows through the arrow and crushes any susanoo under V4 (which sasuke cant maintain anyways), and restricting enton just makes narutos victory certain

--Jugo is non factor, he gets taken out by a single COR, and gets wrecked by Frog Katas and Shadow Clones, and sasuke approaching naruto at CQC would yield the same result as what jugo is facing here,

--Naruto going to 7th tails means that sasuke has no way of hurting him at all, bar genjutsu, however sseeing how naruto and kyuubi are cooperating here, means that even genjutsu is moot as naruto proceeds to eradicate sasuke with TBB or simply outlast him,

In the second scenario, not much changes, when COFRS followed by another FRS or COR will still bypass all of sasukes susanoos, as the dup then get wrecked afterwards

Enton is restricted.

I say Naruto takes both.

Scenario 1: Naruto wins high diff

Scenerio 2: Naruto train wrecks them. He has a clone at Mt. M and 9 tails can leak out.

 

[ARGUS]

Enton is restricted.

I say Naruto takes both.

Scenario 1: Naruto wins high diff

Scenerio 2: Naruto train wrecks them. He has a clone at Mt. M and 9 tails can leak out.

I know its restricted, read my post again,

 

[maniaoqan]

Scenario 2 - With Bijuu cloak protecting him from Amatersu, Sasuke resorts to use greater fire-power. It can come from Senjutsu Susanoo, which cut off the Shinju's root, or Kirin blitzing and demolishing his existence.

Either way, Sasuke solos both.​

Senjutsu Susanoo requires Juugo and MS Sasuke combined. How come it is a solo when Naruto loses ?
Other than that Naruto loses on both scenarios.

 

[Leathercandle]

I know its restricted, read my post again,

The Susano arrows are Enton

 

[ARGUS]

The Susano arrows are Enton

No they are not

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enton can be infused in them, but apart from that they are a property of susanoo

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Sasuke and Jugo wreck both.

 

[Sound]

Naruto wins not more than med-diff.​

 

[Xlad]

Restricting Enton?

That does a lot more in favor of Naruto.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

when has TSM/DSM ever allowed users to sense chakra built up for dojutsus ?

 

[LuckyMan]

when has TSM/DSM ever allowed users to sense chakra built up for dojutsus ?

Sensing in general allows one to feel chakra. If a huge amount of chakra is being built up a sensor would notice. Regular sensors don't know where the chakra is being built up in the body but they would feel a huge pressure like Nagato did when he felt Amaterasu coming. MS jutsu requires huge amounts of chakra to preform so Naruto would know something big is coming and it can only be an MS technique.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Naruto still wins both scenarios

--He can sense the chakra built up for amaterasu well before the flames are spawned and therefore uses smoke bombs to block his LoS, whilst genjutsu is not happening thanks to SM sensing and KB

--He then proceeds to use COFRS to bypass all of sasukes susanoo variants with ease, and with him having clones at his disposal,, means that the probability of him falling for amaterasu, is minimised even more

--Susanoo arrows are evaded, or simply intercepted by FRS, as the jutsu blows through the arrow and crushes any susanoo under V4 (which sasuke cant maintain anyways), and restricting enton just makes narutos victory certain

--Jugo is non factor, he gets taken out by a single COR, and gets wrecked by Frog Katas and Shadow Clones, and sasuke approaching naruto at CQC would yield the same result as what jugo is facing here,

In the second scenario, not much changes, when COFRS followed by another FRS or COR will still bypass all of sasukes susanoos, as the dup then get wrecked afterwards, and Naruto going to 7th tails means that sasuke has no way of hurting him at all, bar genjutsu, however sseeing how naruto and kyuubi are cooperating here, means that even genjutsu is moot as naruto proceeds to eradicate sasuke with TBB or simply outlast him,

Stopped reading after bold... You think if you can sense you can react to Amaterasu Kamui etc...

 

[lanakui8]

war arc naruto wins even if enton isn't restricted.

Pain arc naruto loses.

 

[ARGUS]

Stopped reading after bold... You think if you can sense you can react to Amaterasu Kamui etc...

This just proves that you're a retard
Wheere did I state that he reacts to Amaterasu.? He simply blocks the LoS before the flames are spawned
Once sasukes LoS is blocked. Amaterasu is countered as he's just wasting his chakra trying to ignite flames randomly

 

[TRE MERCER]

This just proves that you're a retard
Wheere did I state that he reacts to Amaterasu.? He simply blocks the LoS before the flames are spawned
Once sasukes LoS is blocked. Amaterasu is countered as he's just wasting his chakra trying to ignite flames randomly

No this is why your retarded. The time span of the chakra build up is Ni-reacting. Seeing as Kakashi manage to switch to MS and warp Susanoo arrows from about 15 ft while in Mid air. So that alone is proof of how fast the chakra build up process...

 

[Inert Brian]

Juugo tips the scales in Scenario 1 for a W.

Naruto is solo'd by Sasuke in Scenario 2 since he can't prep in time for Amaterasu or Susano'o arrow.