RSM Naruto and Tomoe Rinnegan Sasuke are on par 23rd Budokai characters

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RSM Naruto and Tomoe Rinnegan Sasuke are on par with 23rd Budokai characters

Hello guys, I would like to prove the point which I contained in title of my thread. Please bare with me as here I go:

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Master Roshi > Narutoverse top tiers characters fallacy
Master Roshi can not bust Moon at 180 power level as you claim. No, He need to use special technique of his known as Kamehameha which multiply his power level by 1,5, so we got 180 * 1,5= 270.

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Yes it could destroy great Young King Picoolo, but there is reason why Master Roshi didn't use it.

1) He need to charge up his KI and goes in bulky mode which decrease his speed by a lot and make him bascially immobile
2) he need time to charge up kamehameha before shooting it at target

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^^ due to reasons above Master Roshi avoided use of Kamehameha, also there is another catch...

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^^ Master Roshi was amazed and afraid of Kikoho forbidden technique of Tenshinhan to destroy the battle ring..., if he can bust the Moon then why being scared of something like that...

Now Current Naruto top tiers are much faster then Master Roshi, besides that Naruto and Sasuke proved by lastest chapter that they can tank continent buster or close to it.In other hand Master Roshi's durability is weak in compare to them, so his only hope/chance is buying enough of time to go bulky mode->charge kamehameha and pray that target will not move(because if he by any chance hit the ground then it is double KO and we got draw.)

Kaguya, JJ Hagoromo, JJ Madara, Hamura, RSM Naruto, Rinnegan Sasuke, Indra, Ashura and JJ Obito easily take out Master Roshi.

Young King Picoolo > Narutoverse top tiers characters fallacy
After being restored to Youth King Picoolo displayed his destructive power for first time wiping out city:

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^^ Basically the same stuff Incomplete Juubi second form was capable of:

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^^ This feat, can easily be replicated by Massive Juubidama from Juubi:

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^^ and it was Juubi which lacked Gyuuki and Kurama as almost as whole...

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^^ Later on Mr. Popo, servant of Kami-sama Namekian earth guardian stated that Goku has great power but can NOT use it properly. By This I believe Popo means concetration and focusing that power so that goku ~ Mr. Popo

by the way that Goku had 260 power level, just as Young King Picoolo.

Hints,hints, Massive Juubi TBB would be close to moon buster considering Roshi's feat with 1,5 multiplier...


23rd Budokai Goku and Picoolo power level
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^^ Raditz stated that Goku and Picoolo level power level were around 320, which is only 60 units greater then Young King Picoolo and that goku back then.

We know that Madara's Juubi having Gyuuki and Half of Kurama is more powerfull then Obito's Juubi which at least put him close to 23 rd Budokai. Now Naruto and Sasuke recieved half of Jin Hagoromo power, so they could be at 23 budokai level or reaching it.

JJ Hagoromo is even stronger so he would be on BOZ Goku/Picoolo level when they took off their clothes having power of 400 pl. Kaguya is even stronger as Naruto and Sasuke said she had more chakra then Juubi so she would be > boz Goku/Picoolo power wise, but Goku and Picoolo have techniques which raise their pl above Kaguya.

Of course Raditz stomps.

Do not forget Naruto and Sasuke can casually fly and at quite high speed of which Boz Goku was incapable of...

Picoolo can but at what level of speed ?

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^^ Goku's super kamehameha moon buster takes time to charge up, if he can do it in time then it is gg, but if he can not then Goku may loose at that point also.
 
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No, they're not. Kid Goku godstomps both of them.
 

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It's difficult to compare there two, considering the fact DBZ's power scale often makes no sense and tends to be inconsistent.
 

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gr8 b8 m8, i r8 8/8 no h8
 

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People tend to overrate db, dbz. I could see a possibility where say Madara beats the end of DB characters.
 

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People tend to overrate db, dbz. I could see a possibility where say Madara beats the end of DB characters.

Then you my friend should lay off the weed.

Ot: the strongest attack in Narutoverse is a regular attack in Dbz.

Hagoromo created the moon. Master roshi destroyed the moon.

Juubi attack caused a cataclysm. Goku powering up did the same.

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Then you my friend should lay off the weed.

Ot: the strongest attack in Narutoverse is a regular attack in Dbz.

Hagoromo created the moon. Master roshi destroyed the moon.

Juubi attack caused a cataclysm. Goku powering up did the same.

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Bold:proved my point, nobody was talking about dbz here.

And it's well agreed upon that the roshi moon feat is a far of outlier to the general db scale and i dont recall seeing db Goku powering up like that. Seems to me that you need to lay of the crack my friend.
 

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The problem arises when the strongest attack in Naruto is just a regular Ki Blast in Dragonball.
 

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People tend to overrate db, dbz. I could see a possibility where say Madara beats the end of DB characters.

Yeah I agree U_U

Bold:proved my point, nobody was talking about dbz here.

And it's well agreed upon that the roshi moon feat is a far of outlier to the general db scale and i dont recall seeing db Goku powering up like that. Seems to me that you need to lay of the crack my friend.


Exactly , rep for you cool

The problem arises when the strongest attack in Naruto is just a regular Ki Blast in Dragonball.

In Db no

But dbz yes
 

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Yeah I agree U_U




Exactly , rep for you cool



In Db no

But dbz yes



The question is...when someone does this,why are the Nv characters always fighting Db/Dbz characters Dragon ball style?
 

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The question is...when someone does this,why are the Nv characters always fighting Db/Dbz characters Dragon ball style?

Because you need to adapt to stronger verse fighting style or else you are done for
 

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Yeah maybe as strong as Raditz and that's it. No way they can reach a powerful like Nappa where you can crash through rocks without damage....
 
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