[Discussion] Naruto top tiers > dragon ball manga part 1 top tiers

KCMNaruto

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Hello guys, I would like to prove the point which I contained in title of my thread. Please bare with me as here I go:

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Master Roshi > Narutoverse top tiers characters fallacy
Master Roshi can not bust Moon at 180 power level as you claim. No, He need to use special technique of his known as Kamehameha which multiply his power level by 1,5, so we got 180 * 1,5= 270.

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Yes it could destroy great Young King Picoolo, but there is reason why Master Roshi didn't use it.

1) He need to charge up his KI and goes in bulky mode which decrease his speed by a lot and make him bascially immobile
2) he need time to charge up kamehameha before shooting it at target

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^^ due to reasons above Master Roshi avoided use of Kamehameha, also there is another catch...

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^^ Master Roshi was amazed and afraid of Kikoho forbidden technique of Tenshinhan to destroy the battle ring..., if he can bust the Moon then why being scared of something like that...

Now Current Naruto top tiers are much faster then Master Roshi, besides that Naruto and Sasuke proved by lastest chapter that they can tank continent buster or close to it.In other hand Master Roshi's durability is weak in compare to them, so his only hope/chance is buying enough of time to go bulky mode->charge kamehameha and pray that target will not move(because if he by any chance hit the ground then it is double KO and we got draw.)

Kaguya, JJ Hagoromo, JJ Madara, Hamura, RSM Naruto, Rinnegan Sasuke, Indra, Ashura and JJ Obito easily take out Master Roshi.

Young King Picoolo > Narutoverse top tiers characters fallacy
After being restored to Youth King Picoolo displayed his destructive power for first time wiping out city:

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^^ Basically the same stuff Incomplete Juubi second form was capable of:

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^^ This feat, can easily be replicated by Massive Juubidama from Juubi:

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^^ and it was Juubi which lacked Gyuuki and Kurama as almost as whole...

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^^ Later on Mr. Popo, servant of Kami-sama Namekian earth guardian stated that Goku has great power but can NOT use it properly. By This I believe Popo means concetration and focusing that power so that goku ~ Mr. Popo

by the way that Goku had 260 power level, just as Young King Picoolo.

Hints,hints, Massive Juubi TBB would be close to moon buster considering Roshi's feat with 1,5 multiplier...


23rd Budokai Goku and Picoolo power level
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^^ Raditz stated that Goku and Picoolo level power level were around 320, which is only 60 units greater then Young King Picoolo and that goku back then.

We know that Madara's Juubi having Gyuuki and Half of Kurama is more powerfull then Obito's Juubi which at least put him close to 23 rd Budokai. Now Naruto and Sasuke recieved half of Jin Hagoromo power, so they could be at 23 budokai level or reaching it.

JJ Hagoromo is even stronger so he would be on BOZ Goku/Picoolo level when they took off their clothes having power of 400 pl. Kaguya is even stronger as Naruto and Sasuke said she had more chakra then Juubi so she would be > boz Goku/Picoolo power wise, but Goku and Picoolo have techniques which raise their pl above Kaguya.

Of course Raditz stomps.

Do not forget Naruto and Sasuke can casually fly and at quite high speed of which Boz Goku was incapable of...

Picoolo can but at what level of speed ?

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^^ Goku's super kamehameha moon buster takes time to charge up, if he can do it in time then it is gg, but if he can not then Goku may loose at that point also.
 

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Well Researched ..

but the universe in dbz and Naruto are completely different in matter we say

- DBZ powerlevels are based on Kai and Naruto's based on Chakra levels

- In Naruto's Universe if the Chakra level is zer they die so the Chakra itself is a lifesource for Ninja's

- DBZ Power level are insane in Naruto's Universe because these guys are not mortal beings XD
 

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Well Researched ..

but the universe in dbz and Naruto are completely different in matter we say

- DBZ powerlevels are based on Kai and Naruto's based on Chakra levels

- In Naruto's Universe if the Chakra level is zer they die so the Chakra itself is a lifesource for Ninja's

- DBZ Power level are insane in Naruto's Universe because these guys are not mortal beings XD

Yeah I know, that when we enter sayian race arc(Raditz arrival), then it is as far as we can compare them, but still I think I proved Narutoverse top tiers > dragon ball manga part 1
 

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Their power level would be considered god level but in the Naruto verse even those with all the power have fallen to those who are determined it isn't about power in NV it's about using what you got to the best effect though if we're Multiversing then DBZ best to use bleach verse logic

Aizen "This is a battle of Reitsu, because mine is stronger your attacks are useless" something along those lines so if we applied that logic to DBZ then Goku would be immune to every NV attack due to his overwhelming power...
 

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yes in dbz they are op level i think Toriyama focused on fights rather than character development .

Kishimoto's theme was based on Friendship and love .
 

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Completely agree with you Universe in bleach . In the End it's Mangaka's Theme which focuses the manga where he wants to develop

Toriyama : OP level fights but less focus on Character development and Plot

Kishimoto : Theme on Friendship ,love and Hatred

Kubo :Sword fighting , Killing and Blood

Oda : Adventures and Nakama
 

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Completely agree with you Universe in bleach . In the End it's Mangaka's Theme which focuses the manga where he wants to develop

Toriyama : OP level fights but less focus on Character development and Plot

Kishimoto : Theme on Friendship ,love and Hatred

Kubo :Sword fighting , Killing and Blood

Oda : Adventures and Nakama

double post
 

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Completely agree with you Universe in bleach . In the End it's Mangaka's Theme which focuses the manga where he wants to develop

Toriyama : OP level fights but less focus on Character development and Plot

Kishimoto : Theme on Friendship ,love and Hatred

Kubo :Sword fighting , Killing and Blood

Oda : Adventures and Nakama

lol dude Vegeta has one of the best character developments of all time
 

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lol dude Vegeta has one of the best character developments of all time

To the point where he couldn't advance past SS3 without the help of technological means unlike Goku....
 

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Vegeta and Nappa destroyed a planet in episode 7 Terror on Arlia in their weakest form
Filler, besides the op means dragon ball, not dragon ball Z.
 

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To the point where he couldn't advance past SS3 without the help of technological means unlike Goku....

Vegeta never achieved SSJ3 and SSJ4 is GT therefor not canon know your Dragon Ball. I was talking about how his character changed over time not in power but in personality.
 

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Completely agree with you Universe in bleach . In the End it's Mangaka's Theme which focuses the manga where he wants to develop

Toriyama : OP level fights but less focus on Character development and Plot

Kishimoto : Theme on Friendship ,love and Hatred

Kubo :Sword fighting , Killing and Blood

Oda : Adventures and Nakama

@boldWhat?
 

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you cant compare dragon ball verse with something like naruto
 

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Filler, besides the op means dragon ball, not dragon ball Z.

Exactly, I am glad one could see that ;)

you cant compare dragon ball verse with something like naruto

Give at least three reasons why and I am consider that, do not worry I will wait

If you can not then stop telling me what I can do or can not do
 

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Anyone who actually paid attention to each series would see that but there are people he who see DB vs Naruto and immediately choose the former without thinking because "DBZ is the most powerful. Goku is universe buster"
 

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Anyone who actually paid attention to each series would see that but there are people he who see DB vs Naruto and immediately choose the former without thinking because "DBZ is the most powerful. Goku is universe buster"

^^ True my friend, pure truth
 
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