Tobirama and Minato vs SM Hashirama

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I honestly think Shinsuusenju shouldn't be a problem;

-Minato hands Tobirama some Kurama chakra to give his techniques x3 boost. With that he should be able to create hundreds of Shadow Clones, and once Hashirama has the Shinsuusenju to attack, they can all literally teleport right underneath the arms and take out hundreds of arms with Suidanha.

-Another strategy the two could employ is teleporting right in front of the Buddha once its launched its attack so that way the arms can't reach them as they should be crashing into the ground at that moment of time. It's kind of like how Atom beats Twin Cities in Real Steel [ ]. From there, the duo both launch tagged kunai at Hashirama and force him to fight CQC where he gets demolished.

The two should be able to win here. With Hiraishin, forcing Hashirama into CQC should be pretty easy.
 
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What does he add? Ftg is already on the battle field his suton is pointless...
- Full awareness of Hashirama's fighting style
- Near instant reflexes that have already dodged SM Madara's physical attacks.
- Edo Tensei
- Suiton. (Isn't pointless as it cut through multiple shinju branches with ease, so it serves as a cost-efficient counter to the likes of Jukai Koutan)

I'll give this to Team 1 high-diff.

Tobirama knows Hashirama's battle style thoroughly and since these are two of the fastest shinobi to have ever lived, I don't see Hashi's raw power alone being enough to stop them. To top it off, both are very battle smart, have great teamwork and a varied arsenal between them.

There's always Shinsuusenju, but with intel and speed on their side, do you really believe they would let it get that far? After all, it's not the sort of technique he casually pulls out at the start of a battle.
 
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If they tried teleporting SS, their chakra reserves would be depleted. SS completely dwarfs PS, which is pretty large compared to a TBB. Can Minato or Tobirama teleport hundreds of TBBs? Nope. None have the Kyuubi's chakra in this, so they lose.
PS needed to be lower significantly in size to fit Kurama. At its full size, it's as big as the main body of the statue, which T Bogard calculated:

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This is PS in comparison to the Juubi:

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Minato teleported Juubi's TBB; and before you say the accomplishment was because of the benefits of Edo Tensei, Edo Minato's Chakra was less than alive.

OT: Minato can solo, imo.​
 

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PS needed to be lower significantly in size to fit Kurama. At its full size, it's as big as the main body of the statue, which T Bogard calculated:

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This is PS in comparison to the Juubi:

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Minato teleported Juubi's TBB; and before you say the accomplishment was because of the benefits of Edo Tensei, Edo Minato's Chakra was less than alive.

OT: Minato can solo, imo.​
Yes but you shouldn't be taken seriously here since you also think EMS Madz without Kurama beats BM Minato

Ot-----Tobirama is non factor. Hashirama wins. Ss clears the field.
 

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Minato Alone Can Push Hashi To High Diff Add Tobirama & Their Victory Is For Sure...Bee Isn't Needed...
This. I agree. I just don't see Tobirama as the difference maker Lol

All these SS gg, despite the fact that it's probably the easiest jutsu to deal with for FTG users lool
There's no prepped markings outside of the battlefield where are they going to send it to?
 

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This. I agree. I just don't see Tobirama as the difference maker Lol



There's no prepped markings outside of the battlefield where are they going to send it to?
Like I always say, with the reverse summoning, you pretty much have access to a whole different location.

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There is land upon lands and mountain areas where minato can send that thing to. And it doesn't even have to be the original minato. A shadow clone can easily reverse summon himself to mount myoboku and place a marking at a safe distance. Once the clone poofs away, all its knowledge goes back to the original. Alerting minato that he's clear to teleport it away.

All Hashirama will end up doing is exhausting himself, while Kurama just replenishes Minatos chakra. Give Tobirama a chakra cloak too and his speed and jutsu strength all heighten as well.
 

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Like I always say, with the reverse summoning, you pretty much have access to a whole different location.

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There is land upon lands and mountain areas where minato can send that thing to. And it doesn't even have to be the original minato. A shadow clone can easily reverse summon himself to mount myoboku and place a marking at a safe distance. Once the clone poofs away, all its knowledge goes back to the original. Alerting minato that he's clear to teleport it away.

All Hashirama will end up doing is exhausting himself, while Kurama just replenishes Minatos chakra. Give Tobirama a chakra cloak too and his speed and jutsu strength all heighten as well.
Lol that's nonsense. Pretty sure stuff like that is not allowed in a logical vs section. Hashirama would still win via BFR. Most logical debators on here agree without prepped markings outside of the battlefield, Minato loses. With it, he wins. You can't say he can reverse summon and place markings in mt. Myoboku.

--some other clown said ms Obito is invincible because he can keep using Kamui to go to his lab and keep transplanting Sharingan for Izanagi. Technically, it is possible, but come on now Lol
 
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Lol that's nonsense. Pretty sure stuff like that is not allowed in a logical vs section. Hashirama would still win via BFR. Most logical debators on here agree without prepped markings outside of the battlefield, Minato loses. With it, he wins. You can't say he can reverse summon and place markings in mt. Myoboku.

--some other clown said ms Obito is invincible because he can keep using Kamui to go to his lab and keep transplanting Sharingan for Izanagi. Technically, it is possible, but come on now Lol
It's not nonsense and very much doable. The reverse summoning is a technique like all others and is allowed, unless your imaginary rule book says otherwise. Sasuke used it to escape Deidara, and Jugo told him to use it to escape Juubito's 4 Juubi bombs, and it would've worked.

In this case all that is being done is combining FTG and the reverse summoning by placing a marking in a ore location. You say come on now, which is no counter to me. Unless you have a clear reason why this won't work, I won't boer to respond to you.

BFF? The real minato doesn't go anywhere, it's just a clone setting a marking in a different location. I've seen plenty vs threads where People say Obito goes into the kamui dimension to escape a certain jutsu, and no one had an issue (BFF :rolleyes:) with it. In fact, Obitos kamui (the intangibility aspect) involves sending himself to the other dimension constantly, so that's bfr. So unless Obitos kamui is restricted from all vs threads then you have no argument.

What I said works and is a perfect counter for SS. And what's funny is that SS can't catch BM minato unless he runs directly into it like Madara did. Just running in the opposite direction (especially with his speed keeps that crap away from him). SS isn't particularly fast anyway. Not to mention Kurama can make a tbb with the power to rival 5 tailed beasts combined tbb. Can SS tank that, doubt it.
 

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Lol wow. I just read PS is about the same size as the Buddha statue's Main body? Haha see why all these calculations are very unnecessary smh.

I'm sure we all saw Wood Human on top of Buddha's head. Funny thing was Buddha even bent down to pick Kurama when we saw this.

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Then again, we have this:

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They're about the same or just a slight difference in that last scan I just posted but both being as big as the Buddha statue's Main body is a bad joke.
 

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It's not nonsense and very much doable. The reverse summoning is a technique like all others and is allowed, unless your imaginary rule book says otherwise. Sasuke used it to escape Deidara, and Jugo told him to use it to escape Juubito's 4 Juubi bombs, and it would've worked.

In this case all that is being done is combining FTG and the reverse summoning by placing a marking in a ore location. You say come on now, which is no counter to me. Unless you have a clear reason why this won't work, I won't boer to respond to you.

BFF? The real minato doesn't go anywhere, it's just a clone setting a marking in a different location. I've seen plenty vs threads where People say Obito goes into the kamui dimension to escape a certain jutsu, and no one had an issue (BFF :rolleyes:) with it. In fact, Obitos kamui (the intangibility aspect) involves sending himself to the other dimension constantly, so that's bfr. So unless Obitos kamui is restricted from all vs threads then you have no argument.

What I said works and is a perfect counter for SS. And what's funny is that SS can't catch BM minato unless he runs directly into it like Madara did. Just running in the opposite direction (especially with his speed keeps that crap away from him). SS isn't particularly fast anyway. Not to mention Kurama can make a tbb with the power to rival 5 tailed beasts combined tbb. Can SS tank that, doubt it.
It's not logical at all lmao. I could just say Hashirama uses Mayfly until Minato's 5 minutes of BM runs out . It's a bullshit argument. If the OP wanted prepped markings out of the battlefield he would have specified.
 
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