[VS] Jubi JIn. 3 rinnegan Madara vs rinnegan Sasuke

[Killua Zoldyck]

Madara beats Sasuke w/o Biju chakra, and probably even with it. He is simply much to versatile. Limbo Clones are not non-factors in any shape or form. Worst comes to worst they are used as Meatshields against attacks such as Indra's Arrow. They are also impossible to kill, so Sasuke would have to seal them one-by-one to get rid of them, something he cannot do. Sasuke w/Biju chakra was hyped to be Base Hagoromo level, yet Hagoromo said that only Pre-Shinju One-eyed Madara was already close to his power, Obito expressed how much of a difference the second eye makes, so its reasonable to say he had surpassed base Hagoromo at that point, and upon getting the third eye, his power increased even further. Making the gap between himself and base Hagoromo very large.

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke w/ Bijuu>JJ Madara at full power>Rinnegan Sasuke.

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

The one thing that sets Sasuke apart from Madara is the fact that Sasuke literally fused the Bijuu in his Susano'o, where Madara cannot do this, his Susano'o is and always will be his full power. Without being able to match Sasuke's PS, I fail to see how he wins.

Here is what we can say about his Rinnegan techniques..

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Deva Path.

Chibaku Tensei is on a whole new level, he considered them "raindrops" implying he had more than enough capacity to make far larger ones. He instantly destroyed the Mist Country with those "raindrops"

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His normal Shinra Tensei should dwarf Nagato's Chou ST

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, and his Chou ST is hard to imagine, it would be beyond anything we can really judge without proper showings.

He also has Bansho Ten'nin, considering Tengai Shinsei is a variant, he pulled that giant meteor from space in an instant

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, that means his BT is also on another level.

Asura Path.

We saw how destructive Asura was before

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, it's also extremely durable. In Madara's hands, we probably have a multi mountain busting explosive capability, add all of it's other abilities and so on

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, this is also on a new scale.

Preta Path.

Has already displayed it numerous times, see no reason as to why it wouldn't improve from his Edo Tensei state

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and blind state

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, even Nagato instantly absorbed Bee's v2 cloak, in Madara's hands, this should once again, be on a new scale.

Some other things to note, considering the rest of the Paths are non factor.

Madara also has Limbo, which puts his special Rinnegan technique over Sasuke's S/T Rinnegan technique. With the ability to make five which have immense speed, durability and strength prior to Juubi enhancements, they are far more useful. Madara is nigh invincible, has the full power of the Rinnegan, Mokuton, the Juubi (Goudama, barriers, Juubidama and all of it's other added benefits) and the Shinju (which granted him immortality), so seals are needed to defeat him.

There are ways:

1. Half of EMS Madara's PS was destroyed by SS and Juubi Madara's mokuton is on another level! He could potentially destroy Sasukes PS.
2. Sescond, Madara used his PS as an edo when his Rinnegan was fake! His PS with real ones and SM and Juubi chakra is a completely different story! Susanoo is the manistification of the user's chakra! The stronger the chakra the stronger the Susanoo (Sasuke after the Sage power up was able of PS and with Bijuu Chakra further...)
3. You forget that Madara has the Juubi and like Juubito he would be able to use Juubi damas that could again destroy PS. Remember the huge explosion of V2 of incomplete Juubi right? It's still the most destructive attack in the series.
4. His Gudama with Limbo clones could be the ultimate defence! Sasuke was worried about Madara's clones! They are not to be underestimated.
5. With Senjutsu and the Shinjuu he has stronger chakra and all his attacks will be more powerful!
6. Madara has also master Susanoo so he could know of its weak points.

Madara is the Juubi's Jin! He can use the complete chakra of the Juubi, Sasuke on the other hand fused some of the 9 different chakras together at his Susanoo. When the beasts are not together their chakra can not be completely united. When they are the Juubi they are basically one. Also Hangoromo who has Rinnegan who do you think he could destroy his PS?

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Without biju chakra, Sasuke looses.

 

[wael reda]

Rikudou's Chakra is composed of Natural Energy, as he inherited the Shinju's Chakra. [

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] Sasuke possess that Chakra, so he may not have Senjutsu application, but the Chakra properties of Rikudou's grants him Natural Energy.​

if this arrow was enhanced by senjutsu, it should have been black lightening, alright?

 

[wael reda]

Madara not knowing about the technique doesnt change the fact that his reflexes arent enough to allow him to react to sasukes S/T
as for the sword cutting bit, thats sasukes shunshin, not his S/T
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THats provided if it can even react to sasukes BPS which even RSM naruto struggled to do so
summoning the juubi? i dont see it being possible for the users


Nope, Sasuke has literally made his susanoo the vessel for the bijuu
its different from what madara is doing, madara is still using his own amplified chakra to manifest his susanoo
however Sasuke has merged the bijuus completely within his susanoo, and has literally added them to his own, meaning that his susanoo would still be stronger
not to mention that the claim of sasuke being on the same level as the rikudo means that he is stronger than madara

Night Moth almost killed madara, sasukes BPS attacks are on a whole other level
Sasuke can certainly damage him more than enough to allow himself to seal madara

when sasuke’s biju ps blitzed naruto’s avatar, that was. s/t swapping, the marks indicate
that

if madara uses his ps, he would tank the blitz with no damage seeing how naruto avatar took the blitz with no damage

jiubiobito has already summoned the jiubi,actually summoning jiubi is so overlooked ability jiubi jins has

whatever, jin madara’s ps will be close to sasuke’s biju ps level which cost him alot of chakra ,add the jiubi and sasuke stands no chance

madara also can use moukton clones with ps,,Ikea naruto used clones with avatars

madara said he is immortal, and even regenerated after being cut in half


Andra’s arrow is countred by jiubi doma ,and that will destroy sasuke’s ps while madara can regenerate from any damage

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Madara wins, even if Sasuke could use Bijuu chakra Madara would still win

 

[King Of Pop]

so no bijju chakra for sasuke huh, then madara wins, give sasuke his bijuu ps and he beats that ass handily

 

[Scryed]

IMO the only one's above Madara are Kaguya and JJ Hagoromo.

Kurama said that Sasuke did something that Hagoromo had done or something like that (if I'm wrong then let me know what he says). Which was that fusion of his PS and the Bijuu.

Not so sure his new PS alone would put him at JJ Hagoromo's level...

 

[wael reda]

^^^^^yes viz translation shows kuarma say something like that he fused the separated chakra, he did it very well, it is nearly unrivaled, it is like the old hermit level

that means kuarma was talking about his skill in fusing biju chakra not sasuke’s level overall

 

[wael reda]

we haven't seen jj 3 rinn madara’s full potential(not even its half) ,but if you thought about it, his power would clearly exceed naruto’s and sasuke’s

 

[Benjamin King]

if this arrow was enhanced by senjutsu, it should have been black lightening, alright?

Senjutsu is supposed to make Raiton black? If so, why didn't Madara's Senpou Raiton turn black

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