Neji Hyūga vs Akatsuki

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I am still up, yes. And, 3-10 Zex. I never lose to you.

How does Sasori lose this? He's like, top five akatsuki. If anyone loses, it's Kakuzu.
 

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Right, so Kisame taking Neji's chakra gown directly will would be more then the amount of ninjutsu, so he might end up taking too much.

Lol no not all of them were humans, unless you believe their were natural human giants that took the training. Kisame and Samehada of living entity's so they suffer the same fate with natural energy, no excuses.



My argument was base on removing Samaehada away from him, so he gets raped in CQC after.

@bold That is debunked right in the scan. Fukusaku states all the statues there were people, when they turn to frogs they expand a little so they werent that big anyway. Again senjustu has only shown to effect humans in that way, unless you can bring forth evidence that it can effect a creature like Samehada your point is moot. Samehada's main purpose in life is to eat chakra and you think something like senjustu would be bad for it.

But just because he no longer has Samehada doesnt mean Kisame is finished, how does Neji counter Water dome? He cant breathe under water. Kisame immediately has the advantage.
 
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That was Naruto's cloak wasn't it :| I don't recall any of the fodders coaks blocking any TBB's?

This is the power up cloak I am talking about[1]

Kakuzu's Katon can travel under the rotation,

Rotation covers under his feet too, its not like Susanoo defense.

His fuuton can turn its driving force of defense into its weakness (Distributing force from one side to the other)

Not sure what that means but the rotation tanks the blast, and will only be able to push him to another destination at best.

and his raiton can spring before he has time to react, Although I guess Byakugan renders that plan moot possibly.

Raiton charges, Neji can take that time, of chakra built, and prepare himself.

Once Deidara see's his opponent has range he's not going to be going any where near them as he thought he did with Sasuke had he not been trolled by a sword sticking out of the ground lol and a C1 explosion should halt the force from Neji's air palm... Should they collide

The problem is that air palm boost, is invisable to Deidara's eyes. The power of it can knock away the Juubi himself.
 

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I am still up, yes. And, 3-10 Zex. I never lose to you.

How does Sasori lose this? He's like, top five akatsuki. If anyone loses, it's Kakuzu.

lml His attacks all require blunt force in one directions something rotation can easily weaken enough to the point where the lesser cloak may be able to block it
 

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lml His attacks all require blunt force in one directions something rotation can easily weaken enough to the point where the lesser cloak may be able to block it

Iron Sand moves at the speed of sound and pierces his skin, though.
 

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This is the power up cloak I am talking about[1]

No link my man



Rotation covers under his feet too, its not like Susanoo defense.

It does yes however look at the DB entry for the attack
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If it does manage to go under the rotation and make contact with the underneath of it it clearly states upon contact it will combust with a rather destructive amount of force, a move so sudden under the rotation's axis will at least toss neji up in the air.


Not sure what that means but the rotation tanks the blast, and will only be able to push him to another destination at best.

These DB's are a pain to find so **** it .-. The Fuuton kakuzu uses forces pressure on the opponent from all sides its not a gust of wind :| (Well what I mean by that is it doesn't focus on blowing the enemy) It raises the air pressure to the extreme, Now what I just don't see happening is rotation tanking that when no matter how it distributes the force of the jutsu around Neji theres still equal amount of force pushing from every side, and the rotation can't perform that many rotations in an instant its not psychically possible, if it tries it loses its spherical form and dissolves leaving Neji vulnerable however my thoughts on how Rotation operates may be incorrect I don't believe I've bothered to learn how exactly it defends.



Raiton charges, Neji can take that time, of chakra built, and prepare himself.

I suppose it does, still can be used in group attacks as at best a diversion


The problem is that air palm boost, is invisable to Deidara's eyes. The power of it can knock away the Juubi himself.

That is true wasn't that Hinata's air palm >.> I know he's stronger but still sketchy to use her feats even if it does knock Deidara off his flying mount, he usually is always prepared with a back up when things go astray and could possibly avoid even touching the ground
 

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@bold That is debunked right in the scan. Fukusaku states all the statues there were people, when they turn to frogs they expand a little so they werent that big anyway. Again senjustu has only shown to effect humans in that way, unless you can bring forth evidence that it can effect a creature like Samehada your point is moot. Samehada's main purpose in life is to eat chakra and you thing something like senjustu would be bad for it.

Um no Fukusaku had frog students too, so categorizing it with just humans is out right being in denial.

@Bold, again being in denial that they're some toads in the background being bigger then the others.

Im not going to continue if your going to keep doing this.



But just because he no longer has Samehada doesnt mean Kisame is finished, how does Neji counter Water dome? He cant breathe under water. Kisame immediately has the advantage.

The first reply I gave you showed a post of Neji nullifying Water Prison. He was able to do this due to Hyuuga's ability:

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By adding their own chakra into their the opponet's are able to cancel them out. Of course the Water Dome is pretty big, but BSM boost should be able to replicate the same thing he did with Water Prison
 

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No link my man

Cloak boost from [ > ] to [ ]
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It does yes however look at the DB entry for the attack
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If it does manage to go under the rotation and make contact with the underneath of it it clearly states upon contact it will combust with a rather destructive amount of force, a move so sudden under the rotation's axis will at least toss neji up in the air.

Never denied how his Katon works. I am saying that Rotation doesn't have a blind spot underneath, that he isn't blocking. Katon is not enough to even take out the cloak itself, Rotation isn't even needed.



These DB's are a pain to find so **** it .-. The Fuuton kakuzu uses forces pressure on the opponent from all sides its not a gust of wind :| (Well what I mean by that is it doesn't focus on blowing the enemy) It raises the air pressure to the extreme, Now what I just don't see happening is rotation tanking that when no matter how it distributes the force of the jutsu around Neji theres still equal amount of force pushing from every side, and the rotation can't perform that many rotations in an instant its not psychically possible, if it tries it loses its spherical form and dissolves leaving Neji vulnerable however my thoughts on how Rotation operates may be incorrect I don't believe I've bothered to learn how exactly it defends.

The Futon is a single blast, Neji was able to continue spinning from an machine gun type of an attack for a while[ > ].





I suppose it does, still can be used in group attacks as at best a diversion


Not when Neji can see 360.


That is true wasn't that Hinata's air palm >.> I know he's stronger but still sketchy to use her feats even if it does knock Deidara off his flying mount, he usually is always prepared with a back up when things go astray and could possibly avoid even touching the ground

Neji was the first person to perform this jutsu. Dont feel like searching scans of him using it the first time, using it with Hinta together, and some other time. I already made the conditions that Neji is allow to use all Hyuga feats anyway.
 
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Cloak boost from [ > ] to [ ]







Never denied how his Katon works. I am saying that Rotation doesn't have a blind spot underneath, that he isn't blocking. Katon is not enough to even take out the cloak itself, Rotation isn't even needed.





The Futon is a single blast, Neji was able to continue spinning from an machine gun type of an attack for a while[1].








Not when Neji can see 360.




Neji was the first person to perform this jutsu. Dont feel like searching scans of him using it the first time, using it with Hinta together, and some other time. I already made the conditions that Neji is allow to use all Hyuga feats anyway.[/QUOTE]



Yes it is one blow but its one blow that would crush the rotation my man? not to mention it actually lasts for a little bit :|
 

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Ejblack is pretty much spot on, a Neji who's powered up by the bsm chakra robe does beat everyone in the akatsuki bar pain and tobi 1 vs 1.

Kakuzu's elemental attacks won't even phase him when the normal V1 cloaks allowed complete fodders to swim in madara's juubi-sized katon unharmed. His speed and strength get immensly buffed considering lee can cut madara cleanly in half with a single kick using the inferior cloak. His jutsu, well we saw how much the V1 cloak powered up hinata's attacks, neji's are going to get powered on a completely different level now.

The V1 cloaks allowed shinobi alliance fodders to get kage-level physical stats (like strength and speed) as well as boosting their jutsu to kage-levels (hinata's one-hand >> Hiashi's double hand air palm), neji's superior to those alliance fodders and he's getting a much stronger cloak.
 

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Never denied how his Katon works. I am saying that Rotation doesn't have a blind spot underneath, that he isn't blocking. Katon is not enough to even take out the cloak itself, Rotation isn't even needed.





The Futon is a single blast, Neji was able to continue spinning from an machine gun type of an attack for a while[1].








Not when Neji can see 360.




Neji was the first person to perform this jutsu. Dont feel like searching scans of him using it the first time, using it with Hinta together, and some other time. I already made the conditions that Neji is allow to use all Hyuga feats anyway.



Yes it is one blow but its one blow that would crush the rotation my man? not to mention it actually lasts for a little bit :|

I guess I have to rebuttal my own post. Ill do it tomorrow, since its going to take some thinking to refute this.
 

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Um no Fukusaku had frog students too, so categorizing it with just humans is out right being in denial.

@Bold, again being in denial that they're some toads in the background being bigger then the others.

Im not going to continue if your going to keep doing this.

The first reply I gave you showed a post of Neji nullifying Water Prison. He was able to do this due to Hyuuga's ability:

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By adding their own chakra into their the opponet's are able to cancel them out. Of course the Water Dome is pretty big, but BSM boost should be able to replicate the same thing he did with Water Prison

I know he had frog students but that doesnt change the fact he specifically states those statues . He points at them too. As I stated when turning into frogs people . If those people absorbed enough senjustu they could get that big before turning to statues.

They are in a giant pool of water in the center of it, BSM chakra will not pop it the same as the body blow did last time, the body blow released just enough chakra to disrupt the prison. Neji cant swim as fast as Kisame and cannot breathe under water. Hakke kusho from before wont push Samehada that far so Kisame picks that up, and uses which also gets rid of Neji's cloak.
 

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Neji beats Kakuzu since he can attack him internally disregarding Domu.
Neji loses to Deidara via c3.
Neji beats Hidan easily.
Neji shits on Sasori.
Neji loses to Kisame since he rapes his chakra.
Neji defeats Itachi since he has a counter to everything with Byakugan and cloak.
Neji loses to Nagato and Obito for obvious reasons.
 

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With that cloak he beats Hidan, Konan, Kakuzu (he has a chance against him wo even cloak), Sasori, Deidara (maybe)

Pain and Tobi wpuod obviously win. Kisame wins mid to high diff (chakra is not helping for obvious reasons), Itachi wins high diff.

Hidan gets disabled and blasted. Konan gets a massive airpalm since it is gentle fist it would effect her regardless. Kakuzu has nothing to harm him, he will probably get blitzed anyway. Naruto's cloak blocked huge ass shrukens and kunais Sasori's arsenal is np though he can dodge them too. Iron sand is dodged, period. He hae counters to 80% of Sasori's arsenal anyway. Deidara can be blitzed too, C1 is dodge or tanked, c2 minea are useless to byakugan, c3 is an issue but needed prep (i think), c4 can be seen through and possibly nullified if it comes down to that.
 

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Neji beats Kakuzu since he can attack him internally disregarding Domu.
Neji loses to Deidara via c3.
Neji beats Hidan easily.
Neji shits on Sasori.
Neji loses to Kisame since he rapes his chakra.
Neji defeats Itachi since he has a counter to everything with Byakugan and cloak.
Neji loses to Nagato and Obito for obvious reasons.

What happens if kisame gets a air palm blitz,knocking away his weapon before he could have time to counter?


And why he obviously lose to obito?
With his byakugan neji should be able to analyse the workings of kamui by simply observing the way obito's tenketsu disappears when sends a specific part to kamui land..

With his byakugan and increased speed he can easily keep up with obito's kamui blitz..
If obito gets too close and tries to kamui neji use his bsm cloak to expell large amounts of sensory chakra,
then using his byakugan to pinpoint when obito materializes,he can proceed to activate giant palm rotation fueled by BSM to outlast his time limit.
 

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Neji loses to Deidara via c3.
C3 isn't guided, it's just dropped, Neiji either easily escapes C3's blast radius with his BM cloak enhanced speed or he air palms the thing while its falling to the earth, sending it a couple of kilometers away or right back in deidara's face.
 

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What happens if kisame gets a air palm blitz,knocking away his weapon before he could have time to counter?


And why he obviously lose to obito?
With his byakugan neji should be able to analyse the workings of kamui by simply observing the way obito's tenketsu disappears when sends a specific part to kamui land..

With his byakugan and increased speed he can easily keep up with obito's kamui blitz..
If obito gets too close and tries to kamui neji use his bsm cloak to expell large amounts of sensory chakra,
then using his byakugan to pinpoint when obito materializes,he can proceed to activate giant palm rotation fueled by BSM to outlast his time limit.

Kisame can partially merge with Samehada, so that's not happening.

I don't need to elaborate, all that needs to be done is you stop fanboying Hyuga's so much.
Sure.

Sure.
Sure.
No.
 

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C3 isn't guided, it's just dropped, Neiji either easily escapes C3's blast radius with his BM cloak enhanced speed or he air palms the thing while its falling to the earth, sending it a couple of kilometers away or right back in deidara's face.

But it can always be used in collaboration with other things to make it harder for Neji to stand still>airpalm or run freely wherever he chooses.
 
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