Characters without any given powerups deserve more respect.

Romy9

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I constantly see the lists of who's the strongest and such but those lists are really lame. But in what way lame? For example, when I see Kakashi with 2 MS in lists or something similar, that's when it gets lame. The dude used the power for like 10 seconds but people automatically put it on pedestal. I understand that given powers have to be included if you want to list the absolute strongest force in overall capability, but I think that characters who exhibited major superiority with their power alone deserve a lot more respect and one can only wonder what they would do in the shoes of the past or current powerup recipients.

Hashirama, Itachi and Nagato. The absolute destroyers of any character's reputation simply because of their impact during their own time. I know Nagato got the eyes but he used those eyes with his ability alone. No "artificial" enhancements were given to him to support that usage.

I probably forgot some of them who noteworthy as well, so feel free to note them.
 

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You forgot Gai, he pretty much wrecked Jj Madara with his power alone.
 

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Hashirama stands on top of the list U_U
Followed by Itachi, Hokage Minato and Third, Tobirama and Kisame as well.U_U
 

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I disagree with your list. Sakura, Guy, Minato, Oro, Jirayia and Lee deserves more respect than Hashi, Nagato and Itachi.
 

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Well everyone was given chakra from the tree.... but yeah non fridges deserve more respect.
 

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I disagree with your list. Sakura, Guy, Minato, Oro, Jirayia and Lee deserves more respect than Hashi, Nagato and Itachi.

Nice that you added on the list. Concerning this topic, they're all in the same position, neither is worse or better. The reputation though is another thing. Sakura can't compete with any of them in that department.
 

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I don't mind power-ups if the character trains hard to develop and use the power. All the power-ups since the turtle island training have just been PnJ (aka a$$pulls), IMO.
 

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Guy, Lee, Hashirama, Tobirama and probably Kisame... Itachi could fit that list but the spirit weapons aren't his, however he still earned it I guess.
 

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I don't mind power-ups if the character trains hard to develop and use the power. All the power-ups since the turtle island training have just been PnJ (aka a$$pulls), IMO.

Agreed. I like the true power which was obtained by heart.
 

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Yeah, the list of no power up character.

Kaguya-all power start from her
Hashirama
Hiruzen
tobirama
gai
Itachi
 

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Yeah, the list of no power up character.

Kaguya-all power start from her
Hashirama
Hiruzen
tobirama
gai
Itachi

I don't agree with Guy on some occasions. His power is his alone, but once he opens the 8 Gates, he dies. Which makes it hard to use, actually.
 

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agree but Might guy stands on top because only he dont have free power and KKG and he worked hard for that without borrowed power might guy beats anyone
 

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Guy, Lee, Hashirama, Tobirama and probably Kisame... Itachi could fit that list but the spirit weapons aren't his, however he still earned it I guess.

No, Yata and Totsuka are his, considering he found them.

Weapons aren't considered borrowed power. That's nonsensical, it's the equivalent of saying any shinobi with a kunai isn't using their own power... they're just tools at the end of the day. It would take Kisame off the list as well, considering over 70% of his power comes from Samehada. And Minato due to his FTG kunai. Weapons aren't something genetically added, hence they aren't borrowed power.

ot: In no order...
Hashirama
Tobirama
Alive Minato
Itachi
Gai
Jiraiya
Hiruzen

Those are all the shinobi with a good level of strength who didn't take power ups.

Also, Orochimaru should be mentioned considering he gathered research and takes over bodies... the body he's in isn't his own power. Kisame literally takes other people's chakra in every fight and uses it as his own. He's not on this list either.
 
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agree but Might guy stands on top because only he dont have free power and KKG and he worked hard for that without borrowed power might guy beats anyone

Well, you could address his 8 Gates as his KKG.

No, Yata and Totsuka are his, considering he found them.

Weapons aren't considered borrowed power. That's nonsensical, it's the equivalent of saying any shinobi with a kunai isn't using their own power... they're just tools at the end of the day. It would take Kisame off the list as well, considering over 70% of his power comes from Samehada. And Minato due to his FTG kunai. Weapons aren't something genetically added, hence they aren't borrowed power.

This dudette knows what she' talking about.
 

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No, Yata and Totsuka are his, considering he found them.

Weapons aren't considered borrowed power. That's nonsensical, it's the equivalent of saying any shinobi with a kunai isn't using their own power... they're just tools at the end of the day. It would take Kisame off the list as well, considering over 70% of his power comes from Samehada. And Minato due to his FTG kunai. Weapons aren't something genetically added, hence they aren't borrowed power.

That's why I said he earned them...? It's not like he needs those weapons in the first place.
 

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By Nagato do you mean pain? o_O

Plus, Nagato was on borrowed power.
 
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I disagree with your list. Sakura, Guy, Minato, Oro, Jirayia and Lee deserves more respect than Hashi, Nagato and Itachi.

... Minato: - Has Jinchuriki's chakra -
Sakura: - Isn't that strong -
Orochimaru: - Has been trying to get the sharingan forever and uses other people's bodies - (This one doesn't 100% stand, but though I thought I should at least mention it)

I agree with Guy, Lee and Jiraya though.
 
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