[Theory] !! Indra's Transmigrants !!

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Great theory, it was laid out nicely with manga facts with plenty of evidence to support. +rep

It very interesting. So in the story their chakra lingers around until they find a suitable host. That sounds pretty cool when you think about it. It could also be that Indra's essence and what believed is peace are the same thing

Interesting thread, I agree with the points you've listed!

Outstanding theory! This all validates the end of the fight will result in cooperation between the 2 brothers aka Naruto and Sasuke. It will probably start with the two of them ending IT together.

Thanks, glad you guys enjoyed it !!

The transmigrants are chosen according to their ideals

Indra's chakra is the medium among the Uchiha Clan to awaken the sharingan, which can also transfer outside the bloodline

Indra's resentment towards his family will vanish, when Sasuke starts to co-operate with Naruto

Darkness cannot be eliminated but can be conquered by love in order to create balance in the world

“Accept your dark side, understanding it will help you to move with the light. Knowing both sides of our souls, helps us all to move forward in life and to understand that, perfection doesn't exist - Martin R. Lemieux”

What you quoted here is perhaps the most important part of your theory. (which seems more like truth to me than theory)

I see a few post about not being able to eradicate evil. To understand good and evil you need to 1st understand that these two terms (nouns) are subjective. Good and evil are relative constructs created by humanity. There are heroes and villains on both sides of war.

Where the OP is taking this theory of his is actually coincides with the concept of Yin and Yang. In the case of Naruto and Sasuke while people think Sasuke may have completely lost it, I feel as though he is fighting Naruto because he truly wishes to test Naruto's strength and, more importantly, his conviction.

Sasuke said it himself, he is looking to shoulder the weight of the world's darkness. This includes Naruto's darkness as well, but he first wants Naruto to acknowledge his own darkness and prove his strength as Sasuke's lonely path has taught him that power above all else is key.

Naruto is on the opposite side of this but I feel he has yet to understand what Sasuke is trying to show him, hence the comment about not wanting to fight the current Sasuke.

I might be lending Kishi too much credit but who knows, he may surprise us all.

This is an excellent thread my friend truly worthy of every + rep you recieve including the one I am about to give you.

Well done.

Kishi has been giving hints all along to the solution...

Glad you understood the key points and the purpose of their opposite nature ​

 

[DoubleKamui]

Nice read, even though the majority of it was pretty obvious already.

 

[Honord Sage]

Indra Transmigration can be sum up in Buddhism,you keep coming back because you have yet to get it right and Indra uses the lop not to stop the cycle of violence but to change the outcome. He wants to defeat Ashura no matter if it takes till the end of time.

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

It very interesting. So in the story their chakra lingers around until they find a suitable host. That sounds pretty cool when you think about it. It could also be that Indra's essence and what believed is peace are the same thing

Interesting thread, I agree with the points you've listed!

Outstanding theory! This all validates the end of the fight will result in cooperation between the 2 brothers aka Naruto and Sasuke. It will probably start with the two of them ending IT together.

Amazing Theory

Great thread

Interesting .

Glad you guys liked it !!!

When I first saw this thread I thought it was going to somehow be a Sasuke wank thread. I admit that I'm pleasantly surprised. You put a lot of thought into this thread and I agree with everything you've stated. Well done!

Well, surprises are good

Interesting, but I disagree about it being transferable outside of the bloodline. Namely because the moment Sasuke became the transmigration should he have not gained the "swirl" eyes of Indra? That is a big flaw to me. I could see Ashura doing it outside of bloodline as he values the whole cooperation thing, but I cannot for the life of me see Indra doing it. The Sharingan is in the Uchiha's blood, thus is their power. He's not going to go into a body and make the Sharingan appear as it would be outside of their power. If that makes sense? It's still a good theory nonetheless.

The concept of transmigration [via chakra] was introduced in order to showcase that they will continue the cycle until they find peace [Including the fact they're not limited by blood]

Madara did not attain the swirly eyes you're referring [It doesn't exclude him from the reincarnation cycle] .​

 

[Cooh]

Nice theory +rep

 

[xxSAGExx]

Glad you guys liked it :O



Hope that doesn't happen



Hashirama still needed the help of his brothers in order to get stronger, to voice his opinions among his clan [Include the fact he was fighting from childhood, which enhanced his odds to become stronger than Madara]

The souls will never move on without completing their desires and it's one of the reasons they will transmigrate onto someone else even if they're not connected by bloodline

When you compare Kakashi and Obito, they still have a core value/ideal of protecting their comrades

Indeed they're not going to end up like their predecessors, since they will find a mutual ground [Which separates them from the rest] .​

Madara was fighting since a kid just like Hashirama and killed grown men before he even got the Sharingan. It never really showed Hashirama receiving help, he would go off on his own which is how he met Madara. So since both Hashirama and Madara were born in the same environment so Madara should have been stronger than Hashirama but Hashirama is his own person and not Ashura so he isn't held down by the need of others help to make him strong. Naruto not having parents made him good off and play pranks which made him stupid as a result which made him stupid compared to Ashura.

The connection Indra and Ashura have with their bloodline is strong and is how they can continue to pass on through the generations. If that wasn't so then nothing stopped Ashura or Indra from coming back in those who shared their ideals that's not from Uchiha or Senju/Uzumaki. Sasuke didn't share Indra's ideals at all at first, he started to later on when he fell into hatred.

But Obito isn't Kakashi's reincarnation, he only went there temporary to give him power. Indra and Ashura are reborn into their reincarnations and become that person, when that person dies they move on to another person taking their unique chakra with them.

 

[kimb]

Its possible.

There is the factor of Indra's incarnation and Ashura's incarnation having to be born around the same time to rival each other.
Ex. Madara has a child that will carry similar ideals to Indra, but no child is born in the senju blood line to become Ashura's incarnation , therefore Madara's child will not become an incarnation. The same rules apply vice versa.

I personally think its when two children, one from Indra's blood line, the other from Ashura's bloodline are born around the same time, they become incarnations.

 

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Bro, that was a very nice read. I especially liked the quote you threw in there

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.. Interesting..I'm guessing that'll be how peace will be made in the end of the manga!

Pein wanted to bring peace through sheer power and fear instilled in the people with the ten tails, Obito and Madara wanted to bring peace to the world through IT, Sasuke wanted peace through deleting the past, severing all bonds and carrying the burden of hatred and the villages on his own shoulders and now I guess you could say that the way Naruto and Sasuke will bring peace is by two opposing forces cooperating together to bring balance!

Nice Theory! I agree 100%! + rep! :yayy:

dude amazing thread! i've tatted the link to your profile on my belly

100% agree

Great read and theories

Glad you guys enjoyed it

It's not like I don't agree with your thread, everything you said was correct. However, I don't really get the point of it. What new did you add? For me it's more like a recap of what we know about Indra in general. I didn't find that thing that would make me think of a new idea or someting. Nonetheless, it's useful for information

I don't know why anyone bothered to make a thread about this its pretty obviously stated just by reading the manga. No insight really required....

In order to showcase that the souls will transmigrate onto anyone [Since Indra's chakra is the medium] if Sasuke doesn't find a solution for peace

Ashura and Indra are more like opposite forces [Yin-Yang] of the same entity, that their collaboration in order to achieve balance in nature will bring peace to the world

P.S. It was already mentioned in the conclusion
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[Killah B]

Nice theory

 

[Restricted]

It's a good theory dude! And kudos for the thought and time you put into it! I'm wondering if it's going to take a turn in the manga at some point where Indra and Ashura manage to speak to each other through (and, or with) Naruto, and Sasuke. I'd like to hear what they would say about everything so far.

 

[LeSauce]

It's interesting.

 

[-Jiten-]

Completely Agreed !!

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

very good interpretation and that's why I also think the most logical ending would be having them both as Hokage. However, i don't know if we can say it can be passed outside the bloodline. Indra is intimately connected to Uchiha because of the features you pointed out about love and hatred so it would be easier for them to acquire the same ideals except for shinobi like Shisui and Itachi and others Tobirama mentioned who were rare exceptions. As for Naruto, even though Hagoromo mentioned that Ashura chose him because of his ideals and personality, the Uzumaki clan is a distant blood relative to the Senju clan so again we have the same rivals.

The souls [Chakra] will never be at peace until they find their purpose, it's the reason that they're not bound by bloodline .

i agree with that..

very nice thx a lot =D

Thanks guys !!

Obito wasn't Indra's reincarnation simply because Madara wasn't dead yet. Reincarnation at its most simple term is basically just your soul moving from one body to the next. Obito is his own soul. Technically madara and sasuke are the same person with slight difference due to diffferences in upbringing, their life etc. You could chakra is the terminology for soul in this manga.

Glad you got the point

Interesting Theory! 10/10. i would read it again.
OT: Itachi and Sasuke gifs is hilarious.

Thanks, gif is complementary

it's like a YIn-Yang metaphor!

OT: I like the conclusion !! that means that if sasuke doesn't cooperate and fail , a new indra will be born from another clan , !! since there are no uchiha left ! seems legit !+rep

Thanks man,glad you understood !! ​

 

[razz143]

kool......nicely done........XD

 

[FaHaD 5212]

Interesting Indeed

 

[JCW]

You have personally requested me to read this and may i say was it quite the read. Excellent to the full degree!


Very detailed and reasoning.

As most point out first

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10/10

 

[JCW]

It's a good theory dude! And kudos for the thought and time you put into it! I'm wondering if it's going to take a turn in the manga at some point where Indra and Ashura manage to speak to each other through (and, or with) Naruto, and Sasuke. I'd like to hear what they would say about everything so far.

Doubit it. Very limited on chapters.

Unless he goes out like a champ and last chapter be like 60 pages of back drop n shit. Then yes.

 

[FearxDeath]

I dont know man, I appreciate the sentiment of people still making theory threads and I am always happy to see them. But this one fell a bit short. I what you said possible? Ofcourse, but is it probable?

Personally I think turning Indra into a ghost seeking some kind of vengeance sort of marginalizes him. Obito continued to live on in the after world and made a conscious decision to come back and help Kakashi, which means Indra made a conscious decision to stick around throughout the generations pulling the strings in the background?

I look forward to your next theory, but I dont fully agree with this one.

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

Amazing theory! It seems like a likely explanation for it all! +rep! =D

Great read man, Nice job!

That was a great read. Very interesting to think about!

Good theory

Nice thread. I agree.

Thanks guys !!

nice theory but is till think the transmigrants are chosed by blood

Thanks, believe it like you do on Tobidara

The last picture was the best thing in this thread tbh

Itachi will always be remembered =D​

I think your wrong about Indra migrating outside his bloodlind. It would defeat the uchiha and hatred theme. And the senju vs uchiha them .

But I agree with everything else

The concept of transmigration [via chakra] was introduced in order to showcase that they're not bound by blood relation

Agreed that it would be out of the regular concept Senju vs Uchiha, but it grants the view of two contrary forces trying to find balance .​

They have those characteristics because they're their transmigrants, they're not their transmigrants because they have those characteristics.. it's from birth.

The transmigration process [transfer of chakra] takes certain amount of time, mainly in order to find the person with the same ideals .​

 

[Rohan]

Loved the read.