Naruto full power vs sasuke full power with intent to kill

[Benjamin King]

But he did here:

Naruto "these are exclusive mangas you can read only in Jump +"
WSJ editor in red "★send your fan letter to Masashi Kishimoto sensei!! add⇒
Shueisha Weekly Shonen Jump editorial office
ATTN: Masashi Kishimoto Sensei
2-5-10 Hitotsubashi Chiyoda-ku
Tokyo 〒101 (Japan)"

 

[Rιver]

KidGamer probably meant translations. And yeah.. he didn't use them there.

No need to bring quotations since you can't prove that wrong and it's not a character's line we're talking about.

Simply, it's irrelevant in any case.

 

[Benjamin King]

The idea isn't about the translation, but about how he writes down the information. Blacord visited Japan and can speak some of it, and translated the Japanese texts to this:

"He's on the same level as old man Six Paths."

The Japanese text was from ShounenJump, so they also have their hands on the scripts. The whole idea of translation is the word and meaning it holds. My original point was how I don't put a forum translator above the Viz, who are paid for their work. And that forum translator is apparently ''native-speaker''. My job is done.​

 

[A v i]

Naruto is clearly stronger than Sasuke.

I can't believe that people actually think he went all out against Sasuke.hmm

Naruto stalemated Sasuke with 2 TBBs. What exactly can he do against

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[Inert Brian]

Naruto wins med diff.

1. Lost Gudodamas in the Kaguya fight

2. Kurama already stated how his normal chakra was running out from usage over time throughout the war (@KG65 there's a difference between replenishing Naruto's chakra and Kurama's chakra. Kurama replenishes his own chakra which Naruto uses. It was already stated in part 1 by Jman how Naruto has 2 types of chakras)

Make these two fresh, and Base Naruto would have pooped on Sasuke. The chapter even basically proves it when Kurama tells him how his own chakra was running low for fighting for nearly 150 chapters. The argument is over, Naruto is superior.


It's funny because it's like the part 1 VOTE fight. Naruto was running the whole day after the sound 4 + had to fight all of them each a little (hit by Jirobo, Clones against Kidomaru, Rasengan against Sakon, Smacked by Tayuya, 100s of clones against Kimi) all while Sasuke was nice and cozy in the coffin.

Naruto was nerfed and Sasuke had a power boost.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto is clearly stronger than Sasuke.

I can't believe that people actually think he went all out against Sasuke.hmm

Naruto stalemated Sasuke with 2 TBBs. What exactly can he do against

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Its laughable how people think that 2 TBBs with all the Nature Energy available are anywhere near the strength of his other moves, especially Bijuu RS, its retarded to even assume that is stronger than this. Neg worthy post.

Naruto wins med diff.

People just don't quit denying canon fights do they? Pathetic.

1. Lost Gudodamas in the Kaguya fight

Irrelevant as stated above.

2. Kurama already stated how his normal chakra was running out from usage over time throughout the war (@KG65 there's a difference between replenishing Naruto's chakra and Kurama's chakra. Kurama replenishes his own chakra which Naruto uses. It was already stated in part 1 by Jman how Naruto has 2 types of chakras)

In the end Naruto is fighting with a full enough tank, so it doesn't matter if he's using his own chakra or Kurama's Chakra. Not to mention he got Hagoromo's Chakra and Sakura healed HIM right before they fought against the Juubi in Chapter 631, so this fighting for 150 chapters straight with no replenish is nothing but BS.

Make these two fresh, and Base Naruto would have pooped on Sasuke. The chapter even basically proves it when Kurama tells him how his own chakra was running low for fighting for nearly 150 chapters. The argument is over, Naruto is superior.

Manga has proved nothing at all.

Naruto was nerfed and Sasuke had a power boost.

Like most "X character was nerfed" assertions, they are nothing but excuses.

 

[Strict]

Both Naruto and Sasuke started refreshed after Rikudo Sennin's power up and faced Madara. Naruto got the Nine-Tails along with pieces of the other Bijuu sealed by Obito and additionally, was powered up by the Sennin.

There are two possible ways to describe it:

1. Naruto is stronger, since Sasuke used the Chakra of the 9 Bijuu to stalemate with Naruto in their final blow;
2. It counts as Sasuke's power, as he can put all the Bijuu under his control, jail them in Chibaku Tensei and absorb their Chakra.

This thread makes no sense if it considers the second condition, since they are canonically equal. The last blow will decide, whether Naruto, or Sasuke is the stronger one.

 

[SadSasuke]

Serious Naruto with complete intent to kill since the beginning obliterates Serious Sasuke w/ Bijuu.
Hell, Naruto got serious literally the last seconds of the fight and still managed to wreck Sasuke, whom had to use the power of all the Bijuu to match a Naruto that was toying with him.

 

[Haizaki]

See why one shouldn't take this guy seriously, he contradicts himself too much. Made a thread a while ago and comes here disgracing himself Lol.

Anyways, the moment these scans

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were posted, nothing implies he's not going all out.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

@Kidgamer

I don't think he amassed all the nature energy on the planet. The scan you showed only said "All that's available". That could just mean in the area he's in.

Most of the translations I've seen also just say "I gathered to much".

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I agree on the Naruto's FRS and FRSBD clash with Sasuke was his strongest attack though. The blast radius of their attacks reached over multiple countries as I showed on the map. The blast being at least as big as the red circle, and possibly as big as the blue one. (We know this because Kakashi and Sakura were near the end of the radius, and they were in the land of lightning. While Naruto and Sasuke were at vote.)

So those attacks were absolutely nuts in terms of DC

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On an off note, I don't see why people want to think this match is debatable anymore. It already happened in cannon. Sasuke goes all out, Naruto casually matches him. Sasuke powers up, Naruto goes all out and matches him.

Rikudo Naruto is much stronger than Rikudo Sasuke, and Sasuke with the Bijuu sealed inside his Susano'O is an even match for Naruto. Manga Fact.​

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[lanakui8]

Omg omg so many sasuke fanboys saying Sasuke = NAruto when it's clear as day that Naruto taking a dump >>>>> a bajillion sasukes

Naht.

Naruto and Sasuke's strongest attacks got equaled, both were on their last legs and were equals, Sasuke now has the advantage, if anything Sasuke edges out Naruto pending results on the next chapter.

 

[A v i]

Its laughable how people think that 2 TBBs with all the Nature Energy available are anywhere near the strength of his other moves, especially Bijuu RS, its retarded to even assume that is stronger than this. Neg worthy post.

It is even more retarded to think that Naruto can only make 2 TBB's with all the energy available on the earth.

 

[Flakez]

Naruto with intent to kill defeats Sasuke.

 

[Mishima]

The winner of the fight depends on the next chapter.

 

[KidGamer65]

@Kidgamer

I don't think he amassed all the nature energy on the planet. The scan you showed only said "All that's available". That could just mean in the area he's in.

Most of the translations I've seen also just say "I gathered to much".

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I agree on the Naruto's FRS and FRSBD clash with Sasuke was his strongest attack though. The blast radius of their attacks reached over multiple countries as I showed on the map. The blast being at least as big as the red circle, and possibly as big as the blue one. (We know this because Kakashi and Sakura were near the end of the radius, and they were in the land of lightning. While Naruto and Sasuke were at vote.)

So those attacks were absolutely nuts in terms of DC

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On an off note, I don't see why people want to think this match is debatable anymore. It already happened in cannon. Sasuke goes all out, Naruto casually matches him. Sasuke powers up, Naruto goes all out and matches him.

Rikudo Naruto is much stronger than Rikudo Sasuke, and Sasuke with the Bijuu sealed inside his Susano'O is an even match for Naruto. Manga Fact.​

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The raw translation says that he got all of the NE on the planet, the only thing in question is its reliability. Thanks for putting the attack into perspective though, I've been wondering how strong and large that explosion was.

It is even more retarded to think that Naruto can only make 2 TBB's with all the energy available on the earth.

Quantity isn't always power, not to mention Nature Energy ISN'T Chakra, thus it isn't what is used to form the Bijuu Dama in the first place. What Naruto showed us is his full power. Fanboys, morons and trolls can cry about it as much as they want, canon isn't going to change.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Naruto high-diff maybe? I'm not sure if him having access to all the other bijuu would strengthen his senjutsu attacks or would give any benefit to his chakra avatar

 

[juzumaki]

naruto what he did last 2 chapters he could have done it since the beginning of the fight but he doesnt want to kill sasuke

 

[A v i]

Quantity isn't always power, not to mention Nature Energy ISN'T Chakra, thus it isn't what is used to form the Bijuu Dama in the first place. What Naruto showed us is his full power. Fanboys, morons and trolls can cry about it as much as they want, canon isn't going to change.

Didn't u just said that those attacks are his strongest coz he used all of nature energy which means you are admitting that quantity = power? as Naruto used more natural energy in those attacks?

I don't get what you are trying to imply with that second statement.

Naruto has been using natural energy ever since he learned about Obito's weakness and no need to mention the power he received from Sage is his senjustu which obviously proves that he uses natural energy so there is nothing new about those TBB's that were used against Sasuke.

2TBB's = Sasuke and more than 2 >>Sasuke simple as that.

Do u really think Naruto held back against someone stronger than Saske(Kaguya) and used his strongest offence against Sasuke?

 

[KidGamer65]

Didn't u just said that those attacks are his strongest coz he used all of nature energy which means you are admitting that quantity = power? as Naruto used more natural energy in those attacks?

He put all that Nature Energy into his final attacks. When I said quantity isn't always power, I'm referring to the amount of techniques he used. Him making another attack only splits up that Nature Energy he got, so in the end he's only making more attacks, not stronger attacks.

1 full glass of water or 2 of the same glasses filled halfway. Which one has more water? Lol, exact same principle here.

Naruto has been using natural energy ever since he learned about Obito's weakness and no need to mention the power he received from Sage is his senjustu which obviously proves that he uses natural energy so there is nothing new about those TBB's that were used against Sasuke.

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Yes guys, because all amounts of Nature Energy yield the same power up. Because the Nature Energy Sage Mode Naruto uses=the Amount of Nature Energy RSM Naruto gathered, which is all that was available.

More Nature Energy>Less Nature Energy.

2TBB's = Sasuke and more than 2 >>Sasuke simple as that.

Nope, as I've explained above, assuming he can use more of those at once. I don't know why you clowns think that Naruto, for some reason, didn't fight Sasuke with his full power, but its getting pretty ridiculous.

Do u really think Naruto held back against someone stronger than Saske(Kaguya) and used his strongest offence against Sasuke?

Unless you are implying that Naruto w/o Asura Avatar and excess Nature Energy>>Naruto w/Asura Avatar and excess Nature Energy, then he obviously held back.

 

[A v i]

He put all that Nature Energy into his final attacks. When I said quantity isn't always power, I'm referring to the amount of techniques he used. Him making another attack only splits up that Nature Energy he got, so in the end he's only making more attacks, not stronger attacks.


1 full glass of water or 2 of the same glasses filled halfway. Which one has more water? Lol, exact same principle here.

And where is your proof for this?

I don't remember Naruto using (at least current Naruto) same attack of different sizes with same amount of chakra. If u can prove me that he can use more number of TBBs with the same amount of chakra that he used for those two jutsu then I might agree with u.

As far as I know TBB principle is more chakra = bigger jutsu but I don't think those final attacks are that much bigger than the ones that were used against Kaguya.

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Yes guys, because all amounts of Nature Energy yield the same power up. Because the Nature Energy Sage Mode Naruto uses=the Amount of Nature Energy RSM Naruto gathered, which is all that was available.

More Nature Energy>Less Nature Energy.

No one said otherwise but the point is how can u say that Naruto has less Natural energy back then? He clearly made more jutsu of nearly same size against someone stronger than Sasuke so I have no reason to believe that he has more energy now. No need to mention there is noway in hell for Kyuubi to collect all of Naturall energy on earth that quickly. We already know that it takes considerable amount of time for Kyuubi to even restore himself let alone gathering all of NE on earth.

Nope, as I've explained above, assuming he can use more of those at once. I don't know why you clowns think that Naruto, for some reason, didn't fight Sasuke with his full power, but its getting pretty ridiculous.

I didn't said that Naruto was holding back but he's low on juice which is why he can only produce 2 TBB's with available chakra at that time but if he has more juice then Sasuke is done for.

Unless you are implying that Naruto w/o Asura Avatar and excess Nature Energy>>Naruto w/Asura Avatar and excess Nature Energy, then he obviously held back.

He just combined his clones so you are automatically implying that his avatar has gotten stronger?


Regardless, If Naruto really used all of nature energy on earth then he has to combine it with his own chakra to creat senjutsu chakra and we both know that Naruto's chakra is clarly not enough to combine it with all of NE on earth to form senjutsu chakra. Even if he did the attack size shouldn't be that small as the amount of chakra in them is enormous.