EMS Madara VS DSM Kabuto

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Location: Madara VS 5 Kages
Distance: 100 m
Restrictions: PS and Edo Tensei

who wins
 

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kabuto wins mid diff no ps means madara is going to get stomp
 

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Kabuto wins this mid diff at most

--white rage works perfectly on madara, as he won't be able to maintain susanoo and would allow kabuto to finish him through a chakra scalpel

--Mugen Onsa also immobilizes madara, as the latter this time would be unable to break free before he gets killed

--liquifying also renders physical blows useless and with kabuto having oral rebirth as well as The reflexes to react to madaras attacks means that his victory is certain
 

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restricted PS from EMS madara is so terrible he is nothing but kurama isnt restricted so he negs
 

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Kabuto wins this mid diff at most

--white rage works perfectly on madara, as he won't be able to maintain susanoo and would allow kabuto to finish him through a chakra scalpel

--Mugen Onsa also immobilizes madara, as the latter this time would be unable to break free before he gets killed

--liquifying also renders physical blows useless and with kabuto having oral rebirth as well as The reflexes to react to madaras attacks means that his victory is certain

Itachi and Sasuke were able to maintain Susano'o through White Rage, that statement from Sasuke was just initial worry. Itachi even managed to locate and attack Kabuto and according to Kabuto himself, he can still be sensed and Madara is a sensor after all.

Even when/if Kabuto got to use Mugen Onsa, techniques can still be used, even Mangekyō techniques. So, Madara can defend himself with Susano'o whilst he breaks out of it.

Madara can use Kage Bunshins to trap Kabuto, and then place a Puppet-Master Seal on him to control him.

Or he can just summon Kurama and blast him away.
 

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Kurama is a different character and being, not a summoning technique, and nowhere here is mentioned that he's being controlled by Madara, so Kabuto wins.
 

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Kurama is a different character and being, not a summoning technique, and nowhere here is mentioned that he's being controlled by Madara, so Kabuto wins.

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Kurama was under contract.
 

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Itachi and Sasuke were able to maintain Susano'o through White Rage, that statement from Sasuke was just initial worry. Itachi even managed to locate and attack Kabuto and according to Kabuto himself, he can still be sensed and Madara is a sensor after all.

No they werent, and NO, itachi diidnt locate kabuto,
Mdara wont be able to see or do anything once white rage comes out, and him being alive means that the effect of the jutsu would be more severe on him, as he loses his susanoo and then gets eaten, and Lol, Madara being a fanfic sensor is not helping when he cant defend himself or do anything once white rage comes out,

Even when/if Kabuto got to use Mugen Onsa, techniques can still be used, even Mangekyō techniques. So, Madara can defend himself with Susano'o whilst he breaks out of it.


madara here is just by himself, meaning that he wont be breaking free before kabuto attacks him,
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madara would be completely restrained once he gets hit by the genjutsu allowing kabuto to finish him off

Madara can use Kage Bunshins to trap Kabuto, and then place a Puppet-Master Seal on him to control him.
What good would his shadoow clones do exactly? when kabuto can easily evade all their attacks or troll them through his liquifying, not to mention that its completely OOC for madara to use KB in a fight,

as for the pupper master seeal, how on earth is madara placing this seal on kabuto?

Or he can just summon Kurama and blast him away.

Yes ii agree with that, my response involved madara without kurama
 

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Like those above said Kurama solo's.
 

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Not surprise not hearing good arguments on both sides.
Kabuto loses a good argument isn't need when he can't do anything to Kurama. Inb4 you give him fanfic abilities...
 

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Kabuto loses a good argument isn't need when he can't do anything to Kurama. Inb4 you give him fanfic abilities...

Lol your right, terrible arguments are needed to show that Kurama wins.

Before I give him fanfic abilities? Your clueless. I dont use any abilities of a character that isn't supported.
 

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Kurama takes a dump on Kabuto, so Madara wins. However, if you restrict PS AND Kurama, then Kabuto wins.
 

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Madara soloes. He still has other forms of susanoo. and even without it he is very skilled in the 5 elements
 

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No they werent, and NO, itachi diidnt locate kabuto,
Mdara wont be able to see or do anything once white rage comes out, and him being alive means that the effect of the jutsu would be more severe on him, as he loses his susanoo and then gets eaten, and Lol, Madara being a fanfic sensor is not helping when he cant defend himself or do anything once white rage comes out,

Itachi clearly used Susano'o whilst White Rage was active; even if Madara were temporarily thrown off by it, it takes very little time to re-activate it. And as I said, Kabuto let slip that one can sense him during the period in which the technique is active and as Madz is a sensor (re-read the manga if you must, he's clearly a sensor) as he clearly sensed Hashirama's chakra from a distance (something only BM Naruto did aside from himself).



madara here is just by himself, meaning that he wont be breaking free before kabuto attacks him,
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madara would be completely restrained once he gets hit by the genjutsu allowing kabuto to finish him off

The brothers being able to talk, move and use MS techniques tells you that they're not completely restricted and therefore, Madara can protect himself and forcibly break the genjutsu by using Susano'o to cut himself slightly. Even a 13 y/o Shikamaru was capable of breaking the genjutsu on his own.


What good would his shadoow clones do exactly? when kabuto can easily evade all their attacks or troll them through his liquifying, not to mention that its completely OOC for madara to use KB in a fight,

as for the pupper master seeal, how on earth is madara placing this seal on kabuto?

It seems you're choosing to read selectively. I clearly stated that the Kage Bunshins would be used in conjunction with main body as a ploy so that an opening is made for Madara to use the puppet-master seal.


No matter how you square it anyway, it can be Kurama GG in any case.
 
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