[Discussion] Sasuke Stronger Than Naruto, or Sasuke = Naruto: Sarcasm or Ignorance?

[UzumakiRyu]

I used a moment that happened to point out how ridiculously illogical you and two other certain fanboys on here get when discussing naruto's imaginary feats, and you're doing a spectacular job once more in what you do best, hence why no scans were provided, you make utterly stupid remarks to any and all logical standpoints and facts. Yes, Itachi did not want to fight Naruto or anyone there really, because if he did, Naruto would have been killed in one strike in both instances.

Genjutsu takes affect on any ninja yes, but depending on the ninja, it can last a second or a whole day. Unfortunately in naruto's case, it would be the latter, and that's being nice about it, before kurama decided to play nice and help him. Now that kurama and him are buddies, normal genjutsu would not work as proved with killer bee, but we do not know what rinnigan genjutsu is capable of, so far we've seen by just a glance all of narutos friends are trapped and are now sasuke's pets.

It makes you wonder what would happen if he gives naruto more than just a glance with intent of putting him under. I'm betting the itachi to kakashi effect, if not worse.

Imaginary feats? Same could be said for to you for giving Sasuke "Imaginary feats?" that are first unproven and cannot be proven and only a possibility. Don't try to make it one sided when you're constantly given that same thing to Sasuke by using one thing to justify the other

 

[Romy9]

Does anyone find it funny when an obvious Sasuke fapboy calls others the same and labels them as such? Hilarious.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Imaginary feats? Same could be said for to you for giving Sasuke "Imaginary feats?" that are first unproven and cannot be proven and only a possibility. Don't try to make it one sided when you're constantly given that same thing to Sasuke by using one thing to justify the other

I never gave Sasuke one imaginary feat, please name the said feat, and if I am in the wrong, I will correct myself. But before you may begin, when I say "imaginary feats" I am referencing to the fact you believe that, regardless of any given proof and or evidence in the manga, that naruto can kill and or defeat sasuke, when it has been proven, said, and shown, time and time again, such as now, that he cannot. So please tell me where I gave Sasuke something he doesn't have or cannot do.

Does anyone find it funny when an obvious Sasuke fapboy calls others the same and labels them as such? Hilarious.

Coming from an Madara and Itachi fan, you lot are worse then the Sasuke fans. You all bark the loudest and ignore facts, so no, it's not funny, it's sad.

 

[Romy9]

Coming from an Madara and Itachi fan, you lot are worse then the Sasuke fans. You all bark the loudest and ignore facts, so no, it's not funny, it's sad.

I'm actually a Naruto and Itachi fan. But thanks for clarifying your comprehension level of objective posts.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

I'm actually a Naruto and Itachi fan. But thanks for clarifying your comprehension level of objective posts.

There was nothing objective about it. You have personal feelings when it comes to discussing naruto vs sasuke, you just said you're a naruto and itachi fan, so that alone makes this NOT a objective post and or, view. Why? Because you have shown to deny nearly all manga facts of sasuke > naruto, and sasuke = naruto, you always tried to make it seem naruto > sasuke like you foolishly attempted to try and prove Hashi > Madara.

Neither happened and or will happen. Manga facts.

 

[Raekwon26]

Coming from an Madara and Itachi fan, you lot are worse then the Sasuke fans. You all bark the loudest and ignore facts, so no, it's not funny, it's sad.

Ignore the guy. Been whining and posting about Sasuke for a week now. =D

 

[Honord Sage]

News Flash to borrow a quote from the Hulk " Naruto is the strongest one there is" "Naruto smash puny Sasuke"

 

[Romy9]

There was nothing objective about it. You have personal feelings when it comes to discussing naruto vs sasuke, you just said you're a naruto and itachi fan, so that alone makes this NOT a objective post and or, view. Why? Because you have shown to deny nearly all manga facts of sasuke > naruto, and sasuke = naruto, you always tried to make it seem naruto > sasuke like you foolishly attempted to try and prove Hashi > Madara.

Neither happened and or will happen. Manga facts.

You need to learn what "objective" means, son. My personal feelings don't have anything with the facts that I presented. You're selectively reading the manga which gives you the false perception of "facts". Your blind love for the Uchihas makes you biased towards the actual panels and words that are being shown or spoken in the manga. If you read my posts, you'd know that I'm for the notion of them being equal because they always progressed as an equality throughout the entire manga. Which, in addition, does not only make your post biased, but also ironic. As for Hashirama and Madara, I don't have to prove anything. Madara lost according to the facts of manga and there's nothing you can do about it. You can only spout childish bullshit like you always do. Which makes your credibility equal to zero relevance.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

Ignore the guy. Been whining and posting about Sasuke for a week now. =D

I'm aware lol. But he is not nearly as bad as the others...

News Flash to borrow a quote from the Hulk " Naruto is the strongest one there is" "Naruto smash puny Sasuke"

Take your crap to the fanfic section.

You need to learn what "objective" means, son. My personal feelings don't have anything with the facts that I presented. You're selectively reading the manga which gives you the false perception of "facts". Your blind love for the Uchihas makes you biased towards the actual panels and words that are being shown or spoken in the manga. If you read my posts, you'd know that I'm for the notion of them being equal because they always progressed as an equality throughout the entire manga. Which, in addition, does not only make your post biased, but also ironic. As for Hashirama and Madara, I don't have to prove anything. Madara lost according to the facts of manga and there's nothing you can do about it. You can only spout childish bullshit like you always do. Which makes your credibility equal to zero relevance.

Madara did not lose to Hashi because his main goal was to get his dna, that was it. He was not trying to kill him, as opposed to Hashi trying to kill madara, by attempting to stab him through the back. This has already been explained. Madara outsmarted Hashi, and he also beat the hell out of him just as much as he was beaten, the fight was even with that alone.

Anyways, as for naruto and sasuke... you blindly stated numerous times Naruto > Sasuke over the past 2 weeks, so why are you trying to come off as someone "objective" when you clearly agreed with the naruto fanboys on here that naruto > sasuke?

Maybe I have been too harsh to you and ryuo, as in just coldly stating facts, not taking into account as to how you two may feel towards naruto and other characters, if that is the case, feel free to pm me please, I am not here to be an a-hole. Personally, I find narutos Ashura wrath totally badass with the 3 heads and 6 arms, I like it better then sasuke's God armor. Do not misunderstand -- I do not hate naruto nor sasuke, I am just stating facts and some opinions of mine over the course of all of their fights, that is all.

 

[Romy9]

Madara did not lose to Hashi because his main goal was to get his dna, that was it. He was not trying to kill him, as opposed to Hashi trying to kill madara, by attempting to stab him through the back. This has already been explained. Madara outsmarted Hashi, and he also beat the hell out of him just as much as he was beaten, the fight was even with that alone.

Anyways, as for naruto and sasuke... you blindly stated numerous times Naruto > Sasuke over the past 2 weeks, so why are you trying to come off as someone "objective" when you clearly agreed with the naruto fanboys on here that naruto > sasuke?

Maybe I have been too harsh to you and ryuo, as in just coldly stating facts, not taking into account as to how you two may feel towards naruto and other characters, if that is the case, feel free to pm me please, I am not here to be an a-hole. Personally, I find narutos Ashura wrath totally badass with the 3 heads and 6 arms, I like it better then sasuke's God armor. Do not misunderstand -- I do not hate naruto nor sasuke, I am just stating facts and some opinions of mine over the course of all of their fights, that is all.

This is what I mean by being blinded. Madara's ultimate goal was to be stronger than Hashirama, to beat him in a battle. In which he failed. Then, he decided to take his DNA to actually reach him. The original point was that no matter how marginal, Madara was always a bit weaker than Hashirama. Since you're so factually determined, it won't be too hard for you to accept that.

No, I didn't. I defended Naruto because of biased Sasuke posts. Sasuke fans denied numerous things and proved their hypocrisy. It seems Sasuke fans had a rough time accepting the fact that Naruto was on defensive the whole time and that Sasuke needed the Bijuu's chakra to make him serious. As long as we're on facts, to remind you.

You're not harsh, don't worry. I am a fan, but I try to be as objective as possible. I would be hypocritical if I called other fanboys but did the same thing as they do. I don't have anything against your preferences but when I see biased Sasuke>Naruto threads, I defend with what was presented. And don't worry, the same goes for Naruto>Sasuke threads.

 

[Flaming Amaterasu]

This is what I mean by being blinded. Madara's ultimate goal was to be stronger than Hashirama, to beat him in a battle. In which he failed. Then, he decided to take his DNA to actually reach him. The original point was that no matter how marginal, Madara was always a bit weaker than Hashirama. Since you're so factually determined, it won't be too hard for you to accept that.

No, I didn't. I defended Naruto because of biased Sasuke posts. Sasuke fans denied numerous things and proved their hypocrisy. It seems Sasuke fans had a rough time accepting the fact that Naruto was on defensive the whole time and that Sasuke needed the Bijuu's chakra to make him serious. As long as we're on facts, to remind you.

You're not harsh, don't worry. I am a fan, but I try to be as objective as possible. I would be hypocritical if I called other fanboys but did the same thing as they do. I don't have anything against your preferences but when I see biased Sasuke>Naruto threads, I defend with what was presented. And don't worry, the same goes for Naruto>Sasuke threads.

Yes, I can agree to the fact that Hashi was a bit stronger then Madara, but Madara never desired to kill him, he even told the 5 kage "only hashirama can defeat me". He was quite modest about that, in fact, that is when I became a fan of Madara, when he stated those words that only hashirama could defeat him, and then comes the past of those two, madara's plan, etc, it just shows that those two are more or less equals in everything, if they worked together, they would have changed the world. Black Zetsu is the bastard responsible for causing the madara vs hashi at vote, I don't want to fully get into that, but that scum is the reason madara and hash's bromance gave out. BZ manipulated the most gifted uchiha to try and achieve his goals, which to me, is repulsive and very cowardly, just as cowardly when he had to stab madara through the back to beat him...

As for naruto and sasuke, I see, and I apologize for attacking you the way I attacked naruto fanboys, I didn't know that you were actually attacking sasuke fanboys and may have thought me to be the same, as in "lord sasuke >>> Naruto" which is clearly not the case... I can agree that currently Sasuke may be more powerful, but ultimately it will end in a draw. Ashura Naruto is badass, it's just like the legend of Ashura and Indra in legend of Buddishm. The 3 heads and 6 arms of Ahura in "Wrath mode" Vs "King of Gods" Indra in "God mode Armor".

I personally believe they will tank each other, but I like narutos form better lol. It's just so badass...

 

[Romy9]

Yes, I can agree to the fact that Hashi was a bit stronger then Madara, but Madara never desired to kill him, he even told the 5 kage "only hashirama can defeat me". He was quite modest about that, in fact, that is when I became a fan of Madara, when he stated those words that only hashirama could defeat him, and then comes the past of those two, madara's plan, etc, it just shows that those two are more or less equals in everything, if they worked together, they would have changed the world. Black Zetsu is the bastard responsible for causing the madara vs hashi at vote, I don't want to fully get into that, but that scum is the reason madara and hash's bromance gave out. BZ manipulated the most gifted uchiha to try and achieve his goals, which to me, is repulsive and very cowardly, just as cowardly when he had to stab madara through the back to beat him...

As for naruto and sasuke, I see, and I apologize for attacking you the way I attacked naruto fanboys, I didn't know that you were actually attacking sasuke fanboys and may have thought me to be the same, as in "lord sasuke >>> Naruto" which is clearly not the case... I can agree that currently Sasuke may be more powerful, but ultimately it will end in a draw. Ashura Naruto is badass, it's just like the legend of Ashura and Indra in legend of Buddishm. The 3 heads and 6 arms of Ahura in "Wrath mode" Vs "King of Gods" Indra in "God mode Armor".

I personally believe they will tank each other, but I like narutos form better lol. It's just so badass...

You digressed quite a bit here. They were transmigrants. It was natural for them to be rivals and always compete. Madara had plans, you're right, but the fact that he was weaker than Hashirama is indisputable.

I don't see neither of them being more powerful. Neither one did any significant damage. What really happened was Sasuke increasing his power each time to see how much it would take for Naruto to become serious. The fact is that this fight can't actually say who's more dominant but everyone magically sees one of them being stronger, be it Naruto or Sasuke. The reality is that the actual fight might start now, when it seems they're both giving more effort into it. If this manga taught us anything, it's the fact that the brothers are always equal in power, it's just that one of them always prevails by marginal difference in the end. Who that will be here remains to be seen. The rest is just speculation in fan drive.

 

[EternalFlame]

Really? and they say Sasuke fanboys are bad, the only thing they beat Naruto fanboys are is in numbers, like really dude, you're still in denial, whether you like it or not they will be equal

This right here. Naruto fapboys have been just as bad for years, probably worse.

 

[ministerC4]

This right here. Naruto fapboys have been just as bad for years, probably worse.

*Glances at username*:|
Guy is calling in alts to help his sorry ass.Lol
"Flaming Amaterasu" - "EternalFlame"Lol

 

[Honord Sage]

Why are some people so obsess with ignoring Facts? The Manga Name is Naruto Shippuden not Sasuke.Fact The Hero name is Naruto Uzumaki not Sasuke Uchiha the traitor. And Fact Sasuke works for Naruto and its Sasuke job to make Naruto look good. So under the logic of traditional Stories telling Sasuke loses to Naruto and Naruto is the strongest sines this is a traditional story and to think otherwise is Delusional bordering on madness. Sines non of you have the power to change the Manga.

 

[NaruSasuRival]

I don't see neither of them being more powerful. Neither one did any significant damage. What really happened was Sasuke increasing his power each time to see how much it would take for Naruto to become serious. The fact is that this fight can't actually say who's more dominant but everyone magically sees one of them being stronger, be it Naruto or Sasuke. The reality is that the actual fight might start now, when it seems they're both giving more effort into it. If this manga taught us anything, it's the fact that the brothers are always equal in power, it's just that one of them always prevails by marginal difference in the end. Who that will be here remains to be seen. The rest is just speculation in fan drive.

First, I want to say that the only one who is soloing the last week is me and my threads. I am sorry for telling the truth - I just forgot it hurt those who are in denial. Well, this being already underway, I have to continue. Your statement above is the evidence that you are not serious about neither being Sasuke's fanboy nor Naruto's. If you were impartial, you would have recognized that Sasuke is a punk as he has always been before Naruto.

See, the only difference between Naruto vs Sasuke and Hashirama vs Madara is that every jutsu Naruto learn, he learn it not to beat Sasuke, but to convince Sasuke to stop his childish way. Now, you said what I underlined. However, if Sasuke and Naruto were equal, Sasuke wouldn't have used Bijus chakra to get Naruto to be serious. This is the evidence that on his own, Sasuke is a mere punk. Now, not only Naruto will go all out, but he is just going to cancel Sasuke's new power.

Thus, to be fair, it the least to say is Naruto is much stronger than Sasuke. Again, realize that without biting Hashirama, Madara would never have had a chance against him. This is true for Sasuke and Naruto as well. The only power that can match Ashura and his reincarnation is their own power.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

First, I want to say that the only one who is soloing the last week is me and my threads. I am sorry for telling the truth - I just forgot it hurt those who are in denial. Well, this being already underway, I have to continue. Your statement above is the evidence that you are not serious about neither being Sasuke's fanboy nor Naruto's. If you were impartial, you would have recognized that Sasuke is a punk as he has always been before Naruto.

See, the only difference between Naruto vs Sasuke and Hashirama vs Madara is that every jutsu Naruto learn, he learn it not to beat Sasuke, but to convince Sasuke to stop his childish way. Now, you said what I underlined. However, if Sasuke and Naruto were equal, Sasuke wouldn't have used Bijus chakra to get Naruto to be serious. This is the evidence that on his own, Sasuke is a mere punk. Now, not only Naruto will go all out, but he is just going to cancel Sasuke's new power.

Thus, to be fair, it the least to say is Naruto is much stronger than Sasuke. Again, realize that without biting Hashirama, Madara would never have had a chance against him. This is true for Sasuke and Naruto as well. The only power that can match Ashura and his reincarnation is their own power.

Yep they say their equal but Sasuke used all his powers PS / PS enhanced / PS Chidori / Fireball distraction to S/T Chidori to the back to kill Naruto all the while Naruto's fighting only to defend him self. That's what I find funny the most is through him using all those abilities he couldn't even hurt or damage Naruto lol

 

[Byron123]

First, I want to say that the only one who is soloing the last week is me and my threads. I am sorry for telling the truth - I just forgot it hurt those who are in denial. Well, this being already underway, I have to continue. Your statement above is the evidence that you are not serious about neither being Sasuke's fanboy nor Naruto's. If you were impartial, you would have recognized that Sasuke is a punk as he has always been before Naruto.

See, the only difference between Naruto vs Sasuke and Hashirama vs Madara is that every jutsu Naruto learn, he learn it not to beat Sasuke, but to convince Sasuke to stop his childish way. Now, you said what I underlined. However, if Sasuke and Naruto were equal, Sasuke wouldn't have used Bijus chakra to get Naruto to be serious. This is the evidence that on his own, Sasuke is a mere punk. Now, not only Naruto will go all out, but he is just going to cancel Sasuke's new power.

Thus, to be fair, it the least to say is Naruto is much stronger than Sasuke. Again, realize that without biting Hashirama, Madara would never have had a chance against him. This is true for Sasuke and Naruto as well. The only power that can match Ashura and his reincarnation is their own power.

Lol you say that you're the one that soloes yet you don't even answer to my post which was one of the few serious in your thread.

 

[ministerC4]

Lol you say that you're the one that soloes yet you don't even answer to my post which was one of the few serious in your thread.

I thought you ran off?
None the matter I'll finish u off.
Byron[insert-numbers] your time has come!
Get shreked.
Your time to be soloed has come.

 

[Romy9]

First, I want to say that the only one who is soloing the last week is me and my threads. I am sorry for telling the truth - I just forgot it hurt those who are in denial. Well, this being already underway, I have to continue. Your statement above is the evidence that you are not serious about neither being Sasuke's fanboy nor Naruto's. If you were impartial, you would have recognized that Sasuke is a punk as he has always been before Naruto.

See, the only difference between Naruto vs Sasuke and Hashirama vs Madara is that every jutsu Naruto learn, he learn it not to beat Sasuke, but to convince Sasuke to stop his childish way. Now, you said what I underlined. However, if Sasuke and Naruto were equal, Sasuke wouldn't have used Bijus chakra to get Naruto to be serious. This is the evidence that on his own, Sasuke is a mere punk. Now, not only Naruto will go all out, but he is just going to cancel Sasuke's new power.

Thus, to be fair, it the least to say is Naruto is much stronger than Sasuke. Again, realize that without biting Hashirama, Madara would never have had a chance against him. This is true for Sasuke and Naruto as well. The only power that can match Ashura and his reincarnation is their own power.

You're not soloing anything and you're in the same position as Sasuke fanboys. The difference in power by quantity can be calculated and in terms of sheer number of powerups, Naruto takes it. But that doesn't have anything to do with feats battle-wise. Objectively looking at this fight, I'm the one who's right. No one did any damage, they were just bickering at each other. Sasuke taunted him a bit and Naruto neglected to fight back. The last page in the last chapter is only a hint of Naruto becoming serious enough to counter Sasuke with actual damage. Until we see the outcome of that, there's no factual evidence of either of them being more dominant than the other.