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In all seriousness, though, his analysis isn't necessarily wrong, you just disagree with it.
[Discussion] Doflamingo's real ranking!
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His analysis isn't necessarily wrong, you just disagree with it.
Exactly. I'd also like to add that his analysis isn't necessarily wrong, he just disagrees with it.
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What is wrong about my analysis? It's not even an analysis. It's a fact that Kaku was only 10 Douriki superior to Jyabura. Simple.
Sanji continues to challenge Zoro in every department and exceeding him in some (such as Kenboshoku Haki). So I don't really understand what is so hard to understand about my point.
1- Base Kaku had 20 more doriki than base Jyabura(you said 10 when it's 20)
2- Doriki only measures physical strength. That means base Kaku had 20 dorikis(in terms of strength) above Jyabura. However, it didn't count the fact Kaku was also the strongest swordsman in the Cp9(according to himself). It's basically as if Zoro had 20 more doriki(physical strength) than Sanji, so stronger than Sanji, outside the fact he is a santoryuu user. Like you know, Zoro is much stronger with his blade than unarmed. Same goes for Kaku
3- Zoan users have their physical stats upgraded depending on the type of devil fruit they swallow. The giraffe zoan upgrades physical stats to much greater extent than the wolf zoan because irl, a giraffe kick can easily kill a lion and in the manga it's easily demonstrated by the huge inflation in rankyaku's power that Kaku received(capable to cut tower of justice in half) compared to wolf zoan, something Zoro even analysed by saying the fruit increased his physical strength to much greater extent and zoan Jyabura himself feared him so much he high tailed. All in all, zoan Kaku had a much greater doriki increase than zoan Jyabura
So while in appearance they seemed close, they weren't
Proof?
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I was off by 10. Big deal. It still shows just how close in strength they were. The gap in their physical strength is unlikely to change when they both use their Zoan transformations anyways.
Uhm. Not quite how it works. Douriki was simply to measure their fighting strength, there was no specificity or implication of specificity in regards to if weaponry was accounted for. But considering Kaku fought using swords I'm pretty sure it was taken into account during calculations. If not, then it doesn't make a difference as weaponry doesn't automatically make you stronger like you seem to imply.
Wrong again. Since the carnivorous Zoans tend to be the more ferocious and battle orientated. If a Giraffe kicked a lion in real life, the Giraffe would likely fall over and get ripped to shreds by the rest of the pack. Giraffes have lanky limbs and in actual fact, lack the muscular power that a Lion would have.
Jyabura didn't fear Kaku? Jyabura was quite the opposite, taking the p*ss, taunting etc.
Maybe the fact that Zoro hasn't even shown he is capable of Kenboshoku Haki? Or this:
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No problem but i disagree. Just imagine. If 2 people seperated from 20 doriki were to eat the same devil fruit, logically considering the zoan devil fruit multiply the strength, it should double their respective strength making an ending difference result of 40 instead of 20 and considering like i've said, the giraffe's devil fruit confers more power than the wolf, it should upgrade it even more(i'll explain why below though)
Well Jyabura himself stated it only measures physical strength(i'll edit to post the page if needed).
@bold If weaponry doesn't change like you say, are you really implying that Base Zoro(without his swords) is equal to santoryuu Zoro? I don't believe it
Yes more ferocious, but not stronger. Giraffe however have an humoungous body upgrading their attacks to greater extent like Zoro analysed:
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And you're wrong concerning the giraffe-lion comparison thing. Just read this:
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Or type on google to see a fight between a giraffe and a lion decapitating one in one strike
Yes he did. When Kaku prepared his amanedaichi, he high tailed saying it's not good:
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I think you missed a great part of the manga
1- Sensing Cariboo:
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2- Deflecting Hody's water bullets:
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2- Sensing Vergo's aura:
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