I still don't know How Minato got Senjutsu.

[Ambivalence]

The two toads who used to ride jiryaas shoulders thought that Naruto reminded them of Minato and Jiryaa... Noob.

Not in the context of using Sage Mode, lmao.

Post scans, please?

 

[Glad Of War]

How I am supposed to say something wrong? So you are saying you are against the manga facts? Lel, read the manga. AND when did I said Minato Sage Mode was perfect? I mentioned from the manga ( which comes from the facts ) that Jiraiya learned Rasengan from Minato, and Minato learned Jiraiya Rasengan. Please read before you comment.
Minato could use Sage Mode, however he did not maintain it for so long rather than Naruto because he was an Uzumaki with better chakra pool, and don't get me wrong... Jiraiya's Sage Mode wasn't that great because he had to wait until his chakra responded to his Sage jutsu. Fugakau even stated Naruto surpassed Minato and Jiraiya in Sage Mode when he battled Pain. That's a fact, and not an asspull.

Well it seems you didn't understand me.
I know Minato perfected SM but he couldn't hold it for long time due to low chakra reserves ..Unlike Naruto who could actually use it for a long time.

 

[100]

Not in the context of using Sage Mode, lmao.

Post scans, please?

There are no scans that prove Naruto met the two toads before he went to learn sage mode.

 

[Jɑégar]

It makes no sense to me why people assume they know every ability of a character that's been dead since before the manga even started, and when they introduce a new ability that is totally justifiable they cry asspull. It's just minato hate

I don't hate Minato at all, and if you look carefully. You will see that I wrote "Was it" not "It was" an asspull

Not enough backstory is the problem. The toads at Myoboku know him though, and he can summon them, so its probably them. Plus Jiraiya was his teacher.

Yeah that's what made me make this thread. He had no back story, but well, the guyz above me said it. I think he was trained by the Toads. I actually never though of it.

 

[Ambivalence]

There are no scans that prove Naruto met the two toads before he went to learn sage mode.

What? No, post scans where the toads are comparing Naruto to Jiraiya and Minato, when it comes to using Sage Mode, not in general. That's what you claimed, now back it up.

 

[Thundergod123]

Well it seems you didn't understand me.
I know Minato perfected SM but he couldn't hold it for long time due to low chakra reserves ..Unlike Naruto who could actually use it for a long time.

You were the one who did not understood what I said. "Minato could use Sage Mode, however he did not maintain it for so long rather than Naruto because he was an Uzumaki with better chakra pool"

Learn to read. Read my comment again, then you know what I mean.

 

[Tycor]

You guys should hate the writer, not the characters.. =D

 

[Thundergod123]

You do realize Naruto chakra reserves is far larger than Minato's?
Though he perfected SM he couldn't hold it for long unlike Naruto.

Dude, how many times do you keep saying that all over again? We all know that since Minato mentioned it for like half years ago.....

Besides, Minato having Sage Mode is obviously a fact, but no matter how strong or not, he did mastered it in a way where he released the Senjutsu chakra. People keep saying that Minato only used Sage Mode was because Madara was the Juubi's Jinchuriki and Kishi did not had any other options but to put Minato in there so he could perform Senjutsu Rasengan, but that was not the case, everyone here may ask why he did not used in the battle against Juubito?
Well, that's because Tobirama, Jugo, Sasuke and his son he entrusted were there. Minato could've used it, however he knew his Sage Mode wasn't that good to begin with. He only believed his son could have taken him. If that God Tree never appeared, then maybe Minato was able to control the Senjutsu chakra and fight alongside Naruto?

 

[Gold Lightning]

You do realize Naruto chakra reserves is far larger than Minato's?
Though he perfected SM he couldn't hold it for long unlike Naruto.

Minato doesn't have low chakra reserves, get me proof of that or don't boer replying. You need enormous chakra to use sage mode at all, otherwise it isn't possible to use in the first place.

Naruto couldn't hold it long at first either, practice is why Naruto can hold it longer than before.

Asspull or not, it's pretty f*cking convenient is what it is. Apparently a threat to the whole village does not require the Hokage to use his whole arsenal now? Don't make me laugh, Kishi just hadn't thought of it at that time. Well, we saw how that worked out - he got killed. Not only that, Minato was never even remotely mentioned by the toads when Naruto trained - it was all about Jiraiya.

On top of that, Minato's face is completely normal. The toads specifically said that Naruto was the only one to achieve "perfect" SM, something even Jiraiya couldn't do, evident by his toad-like face. Minato goes completely unmentioned yet again.

On top of all that, Minato asked Naruto if he could borrow Senjutsu from Naruto while they were fighting Juubito (in one of the recent episodes), but a few chapters later... he pulls out SM... for one freaking panel... only to fail. Really?

I still can't decide whether this or Kakashi's PS is a bigger facepalm.

Tell me, in the Obito fight when he attacked the village. At what time did minato have the opportunity to stand still and gather natural energy? He already said he was in a hurry, e village was under attack and Kushina was dying. There was no time. Also please tell me why minato needed sage mode, how would it have helped him??? He beat Obito in a minute, then he teleported the ninetails away, so please specify where sage mode would've helped. Also Minatos identity/relationship was still a huge secret, Naruto wasn't meant to know much about him. The toads may not have mentioned him for that reason.

Please provide the Viz scan where it says Naruto is the only one because I don't remember. Minato asked Naruto to add the senjutsu to the rasengan because it's much faster that way. While Naruto gathered senjutsu, minato formed his giant rasengan. Why would minato waste time doing it when Naruto already was? It made more sense to just collaborate with Naruto.

 

[WalksInShadows]

He learnt it from the toads. He is just not as proficient at it as naruto. He was shocked that naruto was able to use it rather easily

it's a lot more likely that Jiraiya told him the basic mechanics in going into that mode and taught himself. Fusaku basically stated that Jiraiya was the last human that ever been there before Naruto.

 

[spade3dg]

Asspull or not, it's pretty f*cking convenient is what it is. Apparently a threat to the whole village does not require the Hokage to use his whole arsenal now? Don't make me laugh, Kishi just hadn't thought of it at that time. Well, we saw how that worked out - he got killed. Not only that, Minato was never even remotely mentioned by the toads when Naruto trained - it was all about Jiraiya.

On top of that, Minato's face is completely normal. The toads specifically said that Naruto was the only one to achieve "perfect" SM, something even Jiraiya couldn't do, evident by his toad-like face. Minato goes completely unmentioned yet again.

On top of all that, Minato asked Naruto if he could borrow Senjutsu from Naruto while they were fighting Juubito (in one of the recent episodes), but a few chapters later... he pulls out SM... for one freaking panel... only to fail. Really?

I still can't decide whether this or Kakashi's PS is a bigger facepalm.

This is what ive been saying for months. But the Minaotards wont hear me out. They know its an asspull yet they deny and troll.

It was most likely a retcon and Kishi realizing he made two of his Hokage similar so he had to separate them. Minato was still one paneled

 

[Gold Lightning]

This is what ive been saying for months. But the Minaotards wont hear me out. They know its an asspull yet they deny and troll.

It was most likely a retcon and Kishi realizing he made two of his Hokage similar so he had to separate them. Minato was still one paneled

And Tobirama was off panelled against an inferior opponent, what's your point.

And a lot of his points are easily explained.

 

[spade3dg]

And Tobirama was off panelled against an inferior opponent, what's your point.

And a lot of his points are easily explained.

My point exactly lol. Tobirama is the godfather of badassery and swag. Minato is a second close but to Lord Tobirama hes just a peon

 

[Gold Lightning]

My point exactly lol. Tobirama is the godfather of badassery and swag. Minato is a second close but to Lord Tobirama hes just a peon

That makes no sense. Being off panelled means the fight wasn't even worth showing at all Madara had was one eye and sage mode. While minato was 1 panelled by sage Madara, with 1 eye and all tailed beasts within him. And who still got up afterwards while the other got incapacitated?

 

[spade3dg]

That makes no sense. Being off panelled means the fight wasn't even worth showing at all Madara had was one eye and sage mode. While minato was 1 panelled by sage Madara, with 1 eye and all tailed beasts within him. And who still got up afterwards while the other got incapacitated?

Who was able to get up after being held down by Chakra blades? Name anyone? Tobirama saved Minato from certain destruction.

Before Minato could even react. And that happened right after the scene in your sig. The only reason Minatos death was shown was because of who his son is. It was an origin story.

Being off-panelled means Kishi knew his fans would revolt by showing his epic death. Thats why he didnt show it.

Thats like him having Might Guy die. He wouldnt do it