[Discussion] Zoro vs Hancock

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Riker, you debate with a good attitude and respect, and it makes the discussion worthwhile. With the immature ones, not so much.
I mean, I can understand what you're saying, being a **** isn't excusable, but it's better to just say "Dude, cut the shit" than bringing in another character, you know? If he wanted to call out Love Cook for unnecessary hostility, he could have did that.
 

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Who the fuk are you to keep butting in, I'm not a Sanji fan, what is so hard to understand about that concept. I have a avatar of him, yes big whoop.

Like I said in the post above, find any post of me where I'm licking Sanji's assh*le, I've been here since 2009 so there is plenty of history to dig in. If I say that Sanji > Zoro it will be always based on arguments. In the strength department I always said that Zoro has the edge where others try to say they're equals.

So give me a quote of me being a 'Sanji fan' or a 'Zoro hater' or just shut the **** up from now on. I won't stand for that bullcrap.
Thank you for proving my point. Didn't even have to mention your name for this to work.
 

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I mean, I can understand what you're saying, being a **** isn't excusable, but it's better to just say "Dude, cut the shit" than bringing in another character, you know? If he wanted to call out Love Cook for unnecessary hostility, he could have did that.
You're right, I guess people just need better discussion skills(not saying I have them) lol
 

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Bullshit, take responsibility and don't blame me. You're the rotten apple here.

I haven't even dropped Sanji's name until you came along with your stupid accusations. I haven't even said if Zoro would win or lose. The only thing I questioned was if how Zoro would defend himself against a kick that turns things into stone.

If that's enough for you to act like a whiny b|tch, then it's not my problem. Also find me any post where I glorify Sanji or where I bash Zoro without good argumentation, you won't find any.

If anything I'm the most neutral guy here and having a Sanji avatar doesn't change that. But apparently that works like a red rag on bull for you, and you can't have someone like me criticizing Zoro for sitting on his ass for the last three arcs. But in your blind rage you're forgetting that I've said the same thing about Brook and Chopper, but then again you might be just in the Zoro threads.

So go cry about it with your fake apologies. If you want to apologize to someone like a man, you apologize to me.



Who the fuk are you to keep butting in, I'm not a Sanji fan, what is so hard to understand about that concept. I have a avatar of him, yes big whoop.

Like I said in the post above, find any post of me where I'm licking Sanji's assh*le, I've been here since 2009 so there is plenty of history to dig in. If I say that Sanji > Zoro it will be always based on arguments. In the strength department I always said that Zoro has the edge where others try to say they're equals.

So give me a quote of me being a 'Sanji fan' or a 'Zoro hater' or just shut the **** up from now on. I won't stand for that bullcrap.
Chill dude .
 

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Thank you for proving my point. Didn't even have to mention your name for this to work.
Dude your so obvious you don't have to be subtle about it. You indeed need better discussion skills because that is what causes most of your problems with me I think. You never seem to be able to counter me with solid answers. It's always the brush off or an attempt at a funny remark, while running with the tail between your legs.

I'll give you another chance, because I'm kind like that.

You call me a "Sanji fan'' so explain to me why ? And if you tell me that I'm biased, prove it instead of accusing me of it.

The other option is that you find a post in this thread (or any other if you would like) where I'm bashing on Zoro without any reason. But good luck with that because I haven't even stated that he would lose this fight.

So back up your words instead of just attacking me with your forum propaganda.

Thread went off topic, what a pity :/
You can thank Anduril for that, but don't worry he already apologized for creating this train wreck.
 
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Dude your so obvious you don't have to be subtle about it. You indeed need better discussion skills because that is what causes most of your problems with me I think. You never seem to be able to counter me with solid answers. It's always the brush off or an attempt at a funny remark, while running with the tail between your legs.

I'll give you another chance, because I'm kind like that.

You call me a "Sanji fan'' so explain to me why ? And if you tell me that I'm biased, prove it instead of accusing me of it.

The other option is that you find a post in this thread (or any other if you would like) where I'm bashing on Zoro without any reason. But good luck with that because I haven't even stated that he would lose this fight.

So back up your words instead of just attacking me with your forum propaganda.



You can thank Anduril for that, but don't worry he already apologized for creating this train wreck.
That's not the problem, the problem is that you think your statements are valid while any opposing statements are goofs or have lesser value.

Glad you took a chill pill though :)
 

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That's not the problem, the problem is that you think your statements are valid while any opposing statements are goofs or have lesser value.

Glad you took a chill pill though :)
And there you have it exactly as i described in my post.

1) No counter to my arguments
2) Followed by the brush off
3) Attempt at a funny remark

Love Cook said:
You never seem to be able to counter me with solid answers. It's always the brush off or an attempt at a funny remark, while running with the tail between your legs.
Boosh get 'recked, I'm done with you. Don't bother me again with your crap. Gave you a chance to back up your words, and you didn't.
 

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And there you have it exactly as i described in my post.

1) No counter to my arguments
2) Followed by the brush off
3) Attempt at a funny remark



Boosh get 'recked, I'm done with you. Don't bother me again with your crap. Gave you a chance to back up your words, and you didn't.
I feel like you're a Kanye fan.
[video=youtube;Rglm0h5yjoI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rglm0h5yjoI[/video]
 

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No one mentioned Sanji. If the only way you have to defend a character is by belittling another who wasn't even mentioned in the thread, then you are either the wrong person to defend, or the character shouldn't be defended.
I was not belittling any character. I was being critical about a person who fails to accept the arguments given to him. It is not so much about praising sanji as it is about denying credit to zoro where it is due.

It's just that a certain Sanji fan on this site is very disrespectful againts others' opinions and won't look at an issue through another perspective. That fan makes all the Sanjo fans look bad. That's why there's always these arguments.
I agree.

Bullshit, take responsibility and don't blame me. You're the rotten apple here.

I haven't even dropped Sanji's name until you came along with your stupid accusations. I haven't even said if Zoro would win or lose. The only thing I questioned was if how Zoro would defend himself against a kick that turns things into stone.
If the underlined part is what you questioned, then you would know that a strong Kenbunshoku Haki user with quick movements would be able to avoid it. Hancock for example has not shown any feats related to speed while zoro is extremely quick.

Also find me any post where I glorify Sanji or where I bash Zoro without good argumentation, you won't find any.
There are a few times when you did this. But I am not inclined towards proving anything to you.

If anything I'm the most neutral guy here
If you say so. People tend to have a blind spot as far as their own actions are concerned.

and having a Sanji avatar doesn't change that. But apparently that works like a red rag on bull for you, and you can't have someone like me criticizing Zoro for sitting on his ass for the last three arcs.
Firstly I do not criticise based on avatars. Everyone is free to support the charachter they like. But the reason for criticism is clear from the highlighted part of your post. Well, let me tell you, if it was not for zoro sitting on his ass the strawhats would have died at the hands of monet.

But in your blind rage you're forgetting that I've said the same thing about Brook and Chopper, but then again you might be just in the Zoro threads.
wow without chopper, all the kids at PH would have died. And without Brrok thousand sunny would have been er well changed into something disgusting. How very ignorant of you. Every charachter has been playing their part pretty much the same as before timeskip but then again you may only be able to see Sanji's feats.

But I apologize again for my earlier remark it was a bit nasty.

P.S - I will not be posting in this thread again.
 

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I was not belittling any character. I was being critical about a person who fails to accept the arguments given to him. It is not so much about praising sanji as it is about denying credit to zoro where it is due.



I agree.



If the underlined part is what you questioned, then you would know that a strong Kenbunshoku Haki user with quick movements would be able to avoid it. Hancock for example has not shown any feats related to speed while zoro is extremely quick.



There are a few times when you did this. But I am not inclined towards proving anything to you.



If you say so. People tend to have a blind spot as far as their own actions are concerned.



Firstly I do not criticise based on avatars. Everyone is free to support the charachter they like. But the reason for criticism is clear from the highlighted part of your post. Well, let me tell you, if it was not for zoro sitting on his ass the strawhats would have died at the hands of monet.



wow without chopper, all the kids at PH would have died. And without Brrok thousand sunny would have been er well changed into something disgusting. How very ignorant of you. Every charachter has been playing their part pretty much the same as before timeskip but then again you may only be able to see Sanji's feats.

But I apologize again for my earlier remark it was a bit nasty.

P.S - I will not be posting in this thread again.
Not going to reply to all of this, but this is what stands out for me:

First you accuse me of something, when I ask to explain yourself you come up with this:

There are a few times when you did this. But I am not inclined towards proving anything to you.

That's case closed for me, my bullshit meter goes off and I know we're done now. What's stopping me from saying: 'Hey, I know you like touching little kids, but I'm not inclined towards roving it.'

I won't stand here and let you shit on me, I will be here, on your VM wall and maybe even sending you PM's until you admit that your a big crybaby who resorted to trashtalking because you didn't have an answer to the questions posted in this thread.

If I'm such a fanboy, it must not be that hard to find some dirt to prove it and to shut me up. The fact that two wise asses like you still don't have anything and are crawling back in the woodwork says plenty in favor of me.

And yes Zoro beat Monet, and chopper healed kids and Brook saved Sunny. Well great effort guys in three arcs time. It's just that other people are getting the limelight a lot more than others, but that is not the discussion now. YOU made that the discussion by starting the Sanji thing.

So with your apology in that post and your promise to not post here anymore, I think we can go back on-topic now.

-------------------------------Case Closed-------------------------------
Defendant Wins

Back to Zoro vs Hancock again.

Is Hancock fast enough to evade Zoro's long ranged game ?
Is Zoro's haki good enough to withstand Boa's stone ability ?
Does his haki transfer to his swords, or will they break like Smokers Jutte when he blocks like that ?
 

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Is Zoro's haki good enough to withstand Boa's stone ability ?
Does his haki transfer to his swords, or will they break like Smokers Jutte when he blocks like that ?
Considering he can use haki in the thin air(through his flying slashes) only one doing so, so far btw, i think it's more than obvious he can transfer it to his swords. I mean it's through his swords that he creates haki infused flying slashes to begin with. I also don't know why you keep using the jutte breaking example as if we knew exactly how hard it was. All we know is that the tip of the jutte is made of kairoseki, not the entire thing. For all we know it's made of normal wood, something anyone can break especially when Smoker had no haki preskip against someone with the ability to turn things into stone
 

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Considering he can use haki in the thin air(through his flying slashes) only one doing so, so far btw, i think it's more than obvious he can transfer it to his swords. I mean it's through his swords that he creates haki infused flying slashes to begin with. I also don't know why you keep using the jutte breaking example as if we knew exactly how hard it was. All we know is that the tip of the jutte is made of kairoseki, not the entire thing. For all we know it's made of normal wood, something anyone can break especially when Smoker had no haki preskip against someone with the ability to turn things into stone
Well I use the Jutte as example not because of the seastone tip but for the way it was destroyed.

Also the Jutte is made out of metal and not out of wood, and it doesn't break by a kick but by her devil fruit ability.

[video=youtube;TAO5trLI9-w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAO5trLI9-w[/video]

Also Smoker and Vergo have shown what their weapons looked like when they are infused with haki, so I wonder if Zoro can do the same and turn his swords black in order to protect them from her DF ability. So far he indeed only showed a ranged attack with haki, maybe he can channel haki through his sword, but not store it there yet. Maybe that is something for a later arc.

Fact still stands that if Zoro will block with a regular sword against her kick that he will lose that sword like against the rust guy in Ennies Lobby.

this thread is poisonus and needs to stop pleasse some mod somewhere lock it down.
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