Can Sasuke use Shinra Tensei?

Sasuke being able to use Shinra Tensei

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Joseph Gomes

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That could be the case. I thought the official consensus was that Obito didn't use advanced Rinnegan techniques because he didn't want to blow his chakra away when he could still use his replenishable Kamui to fight instead.

Nope, back when Obito was controlling the nine jinchuriki, most people agreed that Obito couldn't use Deva Path because he didn't have both eyes. Later Obito himself said you reach another level after obtaining both rinnegan, probably implying both eyes are required to unlock all six paths

I don't know if that's the same for Sasuke, he has a different kind of rinnegan to begin with
 

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Obito can use all of them, he just didn't because he had to control and transform the juubi and the shinjuu form.

Well back in the day people didn't believe Obito can use all 6 path tech with only 1 eye
 

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Well back in the day people didn't believe Obito can use all 6 path tech with only 1 eye

Madara was able to use all of them fine with just one eye.

Manga never stated that one eye couldn't use it either.

There would be no point for Obito transplanting one eye if he couldn't use any technique from it whatsoever.
 

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Nope, back when Obito was controlling the nine jinchuriki, most people agreed that Obito couldn't use Deva Path because he didn't have both eyes. Later Obito himself said you reach another level after obtaining both rinnegan, probably implying both eyes are required to unlock all six paths

I don't know if that's the same for Sasuke, he has a different kind of rinnegan to begin with
Nope, like you said, that's just another instance of the Rinnegan being inconsistent.

The only difference between Sasuke and Madara's Rinnegan is that Sasuke's is literally overlapping his base, 3T Sharingan (no, Obito couldn't have tomeo in his Rinnegan because the eye was implanted as a base Rinnegan; in Madara's case, his MS transformed into his Rinnegan (no tomoe)); this is why he has yet to deactivate his Sharingan since acquiring the Rinnegan, even in "The Last"; if he does, his left eye will look like a normal Rinnegan.

NOTE: Then again, this doesn't explain the extra set of tomoe Sasuke has in his left eye...

Too many ****ing inconsistencies in this manga.
 

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S/T is not an extra ability, its the ability the consists of the original 6. Tell me, where are Sasukes Water Earth and Wind Natures? The Rinnegan is suppose to give you all 5 elements right. If he can use one he can use all right?

its the ability the consists of the original 6
dude what the **** are you talking about, did Madara have an S/T like Sasuke's or does Sasuke have Limbo? No. Limbo is to Madara and Sasuke has his S/T. For why he can't use to 5 elements it's simply logic, what would happen in the middle of this fight Sasuke suddenly started using all the elements? asspull, even i know that, besides Nagato had Jaraiya to teach him elemental jutsu over time, Sasuke hasn't had his for a goddamn day
 

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No, he was referring to MS, nothing indicated it was only his MS.

Itachi -was talking about his MS. What Sasuke said meant the MS in general.

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He has all rinnegan abilities. Only idiots don't believe it.
 

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Well shinra tensei is the power of Tendo. Tendo path of Pain used both ST,BT and CT. So since Sasuke is able to perform CT its logical to assume he can use ST and BT.
 

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dude what the **** are you talking about, did Madara have an S/T like Sasuke's or does Sasuke have Limbo? No. Limbo is to Madara and Sasuke has his S/T. For why he can't use to 5 elements it's simply logic, what would happen in the middle of this fight Sasuke suddenly started using all the elements? asspull, even i know that, besides Nagato had Jaraiya to teach him elemental jutsu over time, Sasuke hasn't had his for a goddamn day

He was solo'd by Black Zetsu before he could use any techniques with his triple Rinnegan except CT. Also Limbo itself is a space/time technique because it revolves around using beings in other dimensions that can't be seen normally.
 

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Madara was able to use all of them fine with just one eye.

Manga never stated that one eye couldn't use it either.

There would be no point for Obito transplanting one eye if he couldn't use any technique from it whatsoever.

That 1 eye statement is very old, even before Obito became a juubi jin. Obviously it's not a proof anymore

With that being said, Madara used using limbo with 1 eye doesn't proof he can use deva path with 1 eye (he never did, did he?) People said Obito can't use deva path because he needs both rinnegan to unlock all 6 path. That's why maybe Obito didn't want Madara to have both eyes

It's an Old theory
 

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That 1 eye statement is very old, even before Obito became a juubi jin. Obviously it's not a proof anymore

With that being said, Madara used using limbo with 1 eye doesn't proof he can use deva path with 1 eye (he never did, did he?) People said Obito can't use deva path because he needs both rinnegan to unlock all 6 path. That's why maybe Obito didn't want Madara to have both eyes

It's an Old theory
Obito could hardly control that 1 Rinnegan alone it wasn't because he couldn't use them.
 

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That 1 eye statement is very old, even before Obito became a juubi jin. Obviously it's not a proof anymore

With that being said, Madara used using limbo with 1 eye doesn't proof he can use deva path with 1 eye (he never did, did he?) People said Obito can't use deva path because he needs both rinnegan to unlock all 6 path. That's why maybe Obito didn't want Madara to have both eyes

It's an Old theory

Ya, Madara didn't use anything but ct and limbo.

One eye or two, it really never changed...

It's just a theory, you don't have to bid by it because the manga never confirmed.

It would be pointless for Madara to teach him the six paths if he wasn't able to use it too.

I mean how do you use Gedo mazou outer path, but not one through six?

Obito just can't use limbo, which is The full power of his rinnegan.

Madara said he can use the full power with just one eye too before knocking out all nine bijuus.

Sasuke needs to learn how to use the rinnegan techs, that's all...

Whether one or two eyes, you can still use it.
 

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Ya, Madara didn't use anything but ct and limbo.

One eye or two, it really never changed...

It's just a theory, you don't have to bid by it because the manga never confirmed.

It would be pointless for Madara to teach him the six paths if he wasn't able to use it too.

I mean how do you use Gedo mazou outer path, but not one through six?

Obito just can't use limbo, which is The full power of his rinnegan.

Madara said he can use the full power with just one eye too before knocking out all nine bijuus.

Sasuke needs to learn how to use the rinnegan techs, that's all...

Whether one or two eyes, you can still use it.

When did Madara use CT with 1 eye only? If I remember correctly all the Deva Path techs in the manga (CT, ST, Tengai Shinsei) were cast with 2 rinnegan (Hagoromo, Edo Madara, Juubi Madara, Nagato). Sasuke and Kaguya are the only two characters who used gravity based jutsu without having standard pair rinnegan.
 

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Ya, Madara didn't use anything but ct and limbo.

One eye or two, it really never changed...

It's just a theory, you don't have to bid by it because the manga never confirmed.

It would be pointless for Madara to teach him the six paths if he wasn't able to use it too.

I mean how do you use Gedo mazou outer path, but not one through six?

Obito just can't use limbo, which is The full power of his rinnegan.

Madara said he can use the full power with just one eye too before knocking out all nine bijuus.

Sasuke needs to learn how to use the rinnegan techs, that's all...

Whether one or two eyes, you can still use it.
So what was Sasuke using when he made the tailed beast come to him? Or when he absorbed the tailed beasts chakra? What was Sasuke using to make himself fly when his PS only had 1 wing?
 

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Exactly, so advantage goes to madara who was raised on the battlefield.
No, that means that no intelligence was involved in Madara's era, just brute strength.

Just because sasuke is more powerful than madara currently doesn't mean that he's more of a genius.
He became proficient with his Rinnegan in 20 chapters. Madara had 3 Rinnegan and still couldn't see BZ about to pump him from behind.
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When did Madara use CT with 1 eye only? If I remember correctly all the Deva Path techs in the manga (CT, ST, Tengai Shinsei) were cast with 2 rinnegan (Hagoromo, Edo Madara, Juubi Madara, Nagato). Sasuke and Kaguya are the only two characters who used gravity based jutsu without having standard pair rinnegan.

No in total he used Ct with two eyes, but that was the only six path technique he used.

Tengai is also not a deva path technique, otherwise pain/Nagato would be able to do it too.

What gravity base Justu did Sasuke use?

He was just mimicking the outer path via Sasusoo with the CT.

Oh and Edo tensei rinnegans Madara had were fake, because he couldn't use the outer path either.
 

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So what was Sasuke using when he made the tailed beast come to him? Or when he absorbed the tailed beasts chakra? What was Sasuke using to make himself fly when his PS only had 1 wing?

1) Chibakui tensei, Madara was doing the same thing to Sasuke and naruto.

2) what did Obito use when he was absorbing the chakra from Madara?

Or when he was absorbing the chakra to become juubi jinchuuriki?

3) Deva path doesn't give you flight, rikudou senjustu does

Otherwise he wouldn't of need naruto to help him fly.
 

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Sasuke can most likely use it. Obito can't he says it himself:

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