[Clearing] Sasuke being able to hurt Juubi Jinchurki and lacking Sage mode

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I would like to clear how Sasuke could hurt Juubi Jinchurki with not need to have Sage mode.

Well Sasuke was gifted/cursed with Juugo's body enzyme power aka "Sennin mode":

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Similarities between Juugo and Juuubi's minions :​

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Appearance:

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Body's modifications:

Juugo can shapes his hand in whatever weapon he wants, same with Juubi's clones.

Chakra's attack:

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^^ It is very similliar to this attack, but a lot weaker:

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^^ Inital form of Juubi cannon bijuudama in beam shape released

Nature energy:

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^^ Juugo constatnly absorbing nature energy and using nature force which made him go crazy

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^^ Juubi being made of nature energy...

Juubi is nature energy, now considering Hagoromo and Hamura inherited Juubi's chakra directly through their mother, kaguya it could be safe to say that Hagoromo/Hamura chakra is infused with small amount of nature energy:

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^^ proof that Hagoromo's chakra also has at least trail of nature energy infused in his chakra. It is also simmiliar state to Juugo's Sennin mode and as being ultimate state known as Senjutsu of six paths I believe it could absorb nature energy passively.

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^^ You only need nature energy to damage Juubi or Juubi Jinchurki.

It was never stated that Sage mode is needed. However Sage mode as special empowered state utlising all three energies physcial, Spiritual and natural which creates new empowered Sage chakra is best method to use:

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That how Sasuke's Chidori went black again:

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^^ Just like before in valley of the end battle when Sasuke used CS2:

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^^ That how Sasuke could hurt Madara:

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Summary : ​

• Hagoromo's chakra is imprinted with Nature energy/have trail of nature energy
• Juubi's chakra is imprinted which Hagoromo inherited since the birth
• Juugo's Sennin transformation is depowered/based on Juubi's chakra
• Sasuke has Hagoromo chakra while Naruto has Hagoromo's chakra balanced with Nature energy
• Sage mode is new empowered kind of chakra while "Sennin transformation" just mix chakra with added nature energy but the amount of nature energy added can not be controlled/decreased/increased and it can not be balanced with other energies.

Thanks for reading !

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[Awkward Linguist]

...If he gets past:

- Perfect Susano
- Wood Dragon
- Wood Golem
- Shinra Tensei
- Meteorites
- Chibaku Tensei
- Wood Release
- Preta Path
- Bansho Ten'in
- Rinnegan Summons
- Hashirama Sage MOde
- Limbo

Need I go on?
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[Gerkak]

Indeed, you are correct.

 

[bencoby]

Your thread is some how all over the place. But I agree with your theory to some degree.

 

[spade3dg]

Well yea. I dont think anyone said you need sage mode to damage juubi jins. Gama-kun wasnt a sage. Just a frog and used a senjutsu enhanced attack and it effected Obito.

That kind of proves it right there. Jugos clan are natural senjutsu users. So Jugo would also be effective against a juubi j8n if he was strong enough.

 

[QdonEms]

Great thread.

Would rep if I could.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

He still doesn't beat prime madara.

 

[Benjamin King]

Who said you need Senjutsu to hurt the body of Juubi's Jinchuuriki? You only need Senjutsu to damage their Gududama.​

 

[Sharingan King]

I've been saying that Sasuke posesses senjutsu for quite a while now.

Ashura+Indra=Hagoromo

Sasuke & Madara=Indra

Naruto & Hashirama=Ashura

Sasuke recieved cells and chakra from Hashirama which awakened Hagoromo's chakra. Sasuke also recieved chakra from Hagoromo himself.

Juugo infused Sasuke with his cells and chakra too.

I agree with your thread.

Who said you need Senjutsu to hurt the body of Juubi's Jinchuuriki? You only need Senjutsu to damage their Gududama.​

Yet Juubito was unharmed by Enton-Rasenshuriken combo.

 

[KCMNaruto]

...If he gets past:

- Perfect Susano
- Wood Dragon
- Wood Golem
- Shinra Tensei
- Meteorites
- Chibaku Tensei
- Wood Release
- Preta Path
- Bansho Ten'in
- Rinnegan Summons
- Hashirama Sage MOde
- Limbo

Need I go on?
​

and you point is ?

Indeed, you are correct.

Thank you, and you are wise as always

Your thread is some how all over the place. But I agree with your theory to some degree.

Sorry that, I am glad you like it although.

Well yea. I dont think anyone said you need sage mode to damage juubi jins. Gama-kun wasnt a sage. Just a frog and used a senjutsu enhanced attack and it effected Obito.

That kind of proves it right there. Jugos clan are natural senjutsu users. So Jugo would also be effective against a juubi j8n if he was strong enough.

Exactly , great explanation in short

Great thread.

Would rep if I could.

thank you, glad you agree

He still doesn't beat prime madara.

yeah I know, I was just clearing misconception. I don't see connection between them but whatever.

Who said you need Senjutsu to hurt the body of Juubi's Jinchuuriki? You only need Senjutsu to damage their Gududama.​

good point, Adjusting it to just goudama my thread still has point.

I've been saying that Sasuke posesses senjutsu for quite a while now.

Ashura+Indra=Hagoromo

Sasuke & Madara=Indra

Naruto & Hashirama=Ashura

Sasuke recieved cells and chakra from Hashirama which awakened Hagoromo's chakra. Sasuke also recieved chakra from Hagoromo himself.

Juugo infused Sasuke with his cells and chakra too.

I agree with your thread.

Yet Juubito was unharmed by Enton-Rasenshuriken combo.

Thank you

Well I am not sure about Senjtusu unless by Senjutsu you mean Use of nature energy along with your chakra.
while Sage chakra is special kind of chakra used as ones with Nature energy properties.

 

[Sharingan King]

Thank you

Well I am not sure about Senjtusu unless by Senjutsu you mean Use of nature energy along with your chakra.
while Sage chakra is special kind of chakra used as ones with Nature energy properties.

I meant Sasuke has senjutsu chakra but not Sage mode.

Sage mode is a special mode which empowers the senses and body. The user can control the nature energy around them and they possess sensing capabilities.

Senjutsu chakra contains nature energy and enhances the strength of a user's techniques.

Sasuke has senjutsu chakra but not sage mode.

Naruto has perfect sage mode.

 

[KCMNaruto]

I meant Sasuke has senjutsu chakra but not Sage mode.

Sage mode is a special mode which empowers the senses and body. The user can control the nature energy around them and they possess sensing capabilities.

Senjutsu chakra contains nature energy and enhances the strength of a user's techniques.

Sasuke has senjutsu chakra but not sage mode.

Naruto has perfect sage mode.

Perfectly explained, Rep for you