naruto was so ahead of sasuke kishi need to give him biju

[Rmstorm]

No because you are conveniently trying to count it as a new power-up. He gathered more nature energy than he did before. Sasuke got a completely new power and implemented into his Susanoo. Clearly not the same.​

So true, Naruto has been s*****g on Sasuke from the beginning. Sasuke is doing exactly what madara did.

 

[saw2097]

yes because naruto is such a weakling right? what a joke. you conveniently left how much natural energy naruto absorbed which was literally all above the ground and that would power up his shit, as well as the bijuus chakra, you added Ems and left out bsm you also left his new mode which allows him to use simultaneous mountain busters and then you say sasuke losing makes him pathetic., this is what we call leaving out parts to suit our purpose smh

OT. yawn, this threads are getting boring now. naruto himself also has bijjus chakra so your point is moot

That's not what I am talking about.

Naruto's new mode is simply a massive amount of Senjutsu, he simply evolved his BM avatar.

But Sasuke has three separate upgrades, while Naruto has two separate upgrades.

I don't mean to bash Sasuke's character, but with how Kishi is doing the fight, it really does wreck the idea of them being equals.

My only conclusion is that Senjutsu is the strongest upgrade in the manga.

 

[moist]

I guess so, it's no different to how Madara had to go and capture Kurama in order to even stand a chance against Hashirama. A whole of of good that did though lol.

Haha so true lmao

IN B4 Naruto st0omps Sasukes god susanoo

 

[Sound]

when i said new mode i was referring to his latest ashura like transformation not the energy he collected.

You said nature energy but okay. That was a power he had within and it still isn't a full Asura transformation.
He merged his clones and created more hands. He didn't use another new outer source to gain that power.​

 

[Styles]

So true, Naruto has been s*****g on Sasuke from the beginning. Sasuke is doing exactly what madara did.

Bro no he haven't. :|

That's not what I am talking about.

Naruto's new mode is simply a massive amount of Senjutsu, he simply evolved his BM avatar.

But Sasuke has three separate upgrades, while Naruto has two separate upgrades.

I don't mean to bash Sasuke's character, but with how Kishi is doing the fight, it really does wreck the idea of them being equals.

My only conclusion is that Senjutsu is the strongest upgrade in the manga.

Bro what? How is the tailed beast chakra 3 upgrades? He already had a PS. All he did now was put the bijuu chakra into it

 

[King Of Pop]

That's not what I am talking about.

Naruto's new mode is simply a massive amount of Senjutsu, he simply evolved his BM avatar.

But Sasuke has three separate upgrades, while Naruto has two separate upgrades.

I don't mean to bash Sasuke's character, but with how Kishi is doing the fight, it really does wreck the idea of them being equals.

My only conclusion is that Senjutsu is the strongest upgrade in the manga.

and that evolvement doesnt come with benefits??

how? rinnegan is a result of hagoromos yin, naruto has his yang, bijju ps against full senjutsu(an insane amount of it compared to before) and bijuus chakra boosted avatar. he also managed to create more hands in his avatar so he can charge up different attacks at once. you are underestimating him a bit.

well it allowed hashirama to put down madara, kabuto to take on an Ems and Ms user same time so its pretty powerful, current naruto now has shitloads of it to boost his techniques.

You said nature energy but okay. That was a power he has within and it still isn't a full Asura transformation.
He merged his clones and created more hands. He didn't use another new outer source to gain that power.​

of course i know nature energy is not a new powerup but the quantity is a boost. yes but hes never done that before so its an upgrade same with sasukes using chidori with ps, two jutsus he had previously but its certainly an upgraded as he stalemated a bijuu dama with it. not having new sources of power doesnt mean one cant upgrade what he has and receive a boost from it.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Sasuke fans are just being delusional.

Naruto was canonically being passive in their fight. Only matching Sasuke and never taking the offensive, both of them noting this. Sasuke also said Naruto was finally getting serious after he upgraded his Susano'O and attacked.

Casual un-aggressive Naruto = All out Sasuke

We'll see the outcome of a serious Naruto vs Sasuke with the additional power up.

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Not to mention that Sasuke got an additional power up after the Kaguya fight. So Kishi's been continuously setting the plot up to give Sasuke a chance.​

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[Sound]

of course i know nature energy is not a new powerup but the quantity is a boost. yes but hes never done that before so its an upgrade same with sasukes using chidori with ps, two jutsus he had previously but its certainly an upgraded as he stalemated a bijuu dama with it. not having new sources of power doesnt mean one cant upgrade what he has and receive a boost from it.

Point. It's just a refinement like Sasuke using Chidori with his PS. They already had that within and enhanced it now. Obviously a greater boost but my point is you can't call that a new-power up like Naruto or Sasuke getting bijuus. It's just an ability he already had.​

 

[saw2097]

Bro no he haven't. :|


Bro what? How is the tailed beast chakra 3 upgrades? He already had a PS. All he did now was put the bijuu chakra into it

No, the three upgrades are EMS, Rinnegan, AND THEN the Bijuu.

 

[King Of Pop]

Point. It's just a refinement like Sasuke using Chidori with his PS. They already had that within and enhanced it now. Obviously a greater boost but my point is you can't call that a new-power up like Naruto or Sasuke getting bijuus. It's just an ability he already had.​

ok point taken

 

[Styles]

Sasuke fans are just being delusional.

Naruto was canonically being passive in their fight. Only matching Sasuke and never taking the offensive, both of them noting this. Sasuke also said Naruto was finally getting serious after he upgraded his Susano'O and attacked.

Casual un-aggressive Naruto = non yet serious Sasuke

We'll see the outcome of a serious Naruto vs Sasuke with the additional power up.

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Not to mention that Sasuke got an additional power up after the Kaguya fight. So Kishi's been continuously setting the plot up to give Sasuke a chance.
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Except neither was going all out then and Sasuke never got a power-up after the Kaguya fight he just learned how to use his rinnegan powers to it's fullest extent. The only thing he got was the tailed beasts chakra nothing more.

@Red bold I fixed it.

No, the three upgrades are EMS, Rinnegan, AND THEN the Bijuu.

That's no different from Naruto getting KCM-BM-BSM-Six paths senjutsu. So they're still equal/even.

 

[saw2097]

Except neither was going all out then and Sasuke never got a power-up after the Kaguya fight he just learned how to use his rinnegan powers to it's fullest extent. The only thing he got was the tailed beasts chakra nothing more.

@Red bold I fixed it.


That's no different from Naruto getting KCM-BM-BSM-Six paths senjutsu. So they're still equal/even.

KCM and BM are both the same thing, just increased versions.

EMS and Rinnegan are two different Doujutsus with different abilities that Sasuke can combine.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Oh god threads like these are pathetic. These are the types of threads that make a person hate Naruto's fandom. Such ignorance. sign

 

[TsukiNoMe]

Lol sasuke is just hopeless against this Naruto!

 

[AlphaScythian]

Rofl, to get serious? Even kurama was shitting itself, naruto is just to stupid to understand power scales

 

[Koha]

These threads have become increasingly annoying....

 

[Styles]

KCM and BM are both the same thing, just increased versions.

EMS and Rinnegan are two different Doujutsus with different abilities that Sasuke can combine.

Except with BM/BSM he got faster stronger able to make TBB go kurama avatar more durable making him able to fight a Juubi jin those ''increased versions'' Gave him tons more power and chakra.

 

[Xāvî1]

I guess so

 

[lanakui8]

Sasuke = Naruto always will be.

Lol obviously not, Sasuke was a level or two above Naruto at the start of part 2.

BM Naruto (yes not even BSM Naruto) would have stomped the piss out of EMS Sasuke.

The only time they are equals is when they have their final powerups for each respective arcs.

Except neither was going all out then and Sasuke never got a power-up after the Kaguya fight he just learned how to use his rinnegan powers to it's fullest extent. The only thing he got was the tailed beasts chakra nothing more.

The tailed beasts chakra obviously is his powerup.

Sasuke being able to control the bijuu's chakra like he did in this last chapter is irrelevant if he doesn't have the bijuu which obviously puts him way below his current level just like Naruto would be way below his current level if the bijuu were taken from him.

 

[Shruikan]

Sasuke using the bijuus kinda reminded me of DBZ where Vegeta goes Majin in order to get on Goku's level