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SB don't understands one thing. Being TB host gives Jinchuuriki more problems than advantages, while eyes gives user more advantage than problems. ( i mean pre PJ state)
 

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SB don't understands ome things. Being TB host gives Jinchuuriki more problems than advantages, while eyes gives user more advantage than problems.

This argument is not against SB. I, and neither the other guy are part of it. I like both Naruto and Sasuke. I just dislike these mindless statements that claim Naruto is another tier above Sasuke.
 
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"If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them, and stab them in the heart." - Nagato

im not denying that he said this but when was it?


I agree that eye power is a tool that the user has to train to become skilled at using, but it doesn't change the fact the eye power automatically gives the user jutsu/power.

EI: When Sasuke was fighting Killer Bee he automatically gain the ability to control (extinguish) amaterasu. He didn't know he could do that and even questioned if that power was his new eye power. That what Im talking about.

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There are several more examples. In the current chapter Sasuke suddenly gained the ability to absorb chakra. You just proved my point that some people don't want to admit the advantages the eye power gives their users.
Now that i think about it that could of been the Preta Path - im glad you mentioned that,and yes the eye powers deos give the user advantages,but ofcourse they had to learn how to use it.It deos give them abilities but they must learn how to use them,just as everyone has chakra and has to learm how to use it,and everyone has an element but must learn to use it and other techniques.
Sasuke was not automatically able to control the Bijuus or use their power.He also surpress the Kyuubi's power at the begining of part 2,which is more proof that he wasn't suddenly able to handle Bijuu now.

[size=+2]I'm sorry mate but some Sasuke FBs won't agree with this thread.[/size]

Chapters got you rustled i see.

SB don't understands one thing. Being TB host gives Jinchuuriki more problems than advantages, while eyes gives user more advantage than problems. ( i mean pre PJ state)

Okay,you're comparing eyes to living entities,and you were proven wrong about the Bijuu not thinking for Naruto part so you switch to another side of the conversation instead of admitting that you were wrong.

you changed your sig

I'm guessing you are that guy from before? and yeah i changed two weeks ago.

This argument is not against SB. I, and neither the other guy are part of it. I like both Naruto and Sasuke. I just dislike these mindless statements that claim Naruto is another tier above Sasuke.

Yeah,there's a list of member for SasukeBase yet she says we are apart of it simply because we support Sasuke,lol.
 
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This argument is not against SB. I neither, the other guy are part of it. I like both Naruto and Sasuke. I just dislike these mindless statements that claim Naruto is another tier above Sasuke.

It makes sense that Naruto>Sasuke.

Sasuke with Doujutsu+Bijuus=Hagoromo

Kaguya>Hagoromo

And Naruto was better against her than Sasuke ... So it make sense that RMN>Rinnegan Sasuke with Bijuus.

iOkay,you're comparing eyes to living entities
I can compare them cuz both powers came from Juubi and both Sasuke and Naruto weren't born with active powers ( they just have genes for Sharingan awakening and become Bijuu host)


and you were proven wrong about the Bijuu not thinking for Naruto part so you switch to another side of the conversation instead of admitting that you were wrong.

Ok, Ok. Bijuus thinking for him twice in whole series.
 
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It makes sense that Naruto>Sasuke.

Sasuke with Doujutsu+Bijuus=Hagoromo

Kaguya>Hagoromo

And Naruto was better against her than Sasuke ... So RMN>Rinnegan Sasuke with Bijuus.

Sasuke before this fight rarely got to show his true feats. He was being held back for plot reasons. Just because Naruto was better against Kaguya, it does not make any sense to leave Sasuke out. Other wise you are seeing what the story is showing you while not seeing the full picture. I had predicted long ago this fight would happen. Hence why Sasuke was being held back. It makes perfect sense to me.
 

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Hah it's irrelevant they can't change manga facts ^ ^

What facts? You said Naruto has just the Yin Kyuubi while Sasuke has all Nine Bijuu - that was proving wrong by actual manga scans,and not just said like your opinion that Naruto has been using more impressive moves than Sasuke.
It makes sense that Naruto>Sasuke.

Sasuke with Doujutsu+Bijuus=Hagoromo

Kaguya>Hagoromo

And Naruto was better against her than Sasuke ... So RMN>Rinnegan Sasuke with Bijuus.

Against Kaguya Sasuke was still getting used to the eye which he got 30 minutes earlier - he clearly wasn't in his top condition like now - No PS Chidori,or Rinnegans powers besides his teleportation,which mean no Black orbless CT which Capture all the Bijuu at the same time.

and Naruto had the Bijuu help during the Kaguya battle hence his performance.

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What facts? You said Naruto has just the Yin Kyuubi while Sasuke has all Nine Bijuu - that was proving wrong by actual manga scans,and not just said like your opinion that Naruto has been using more impressive moves than Sasuke.


Against Kaguya Sasuke was still getting used to the eye which he got 30 minutes earlier - he clearly wasn't in his top condition like now - No PS Chidori,or Rinnegans powers besides his teleportation,which mean no Black orbless CT which Capture all the Bijuu at the same time.

and Naruto had the Bijuu help during the Kaguya battle hence his performance.

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Again moron, Naruto already wasted a lot of his chakra in Kaguya's fight while Sasuke just didn't nothing.
Sasuke even said that Naruto has not much chakra anymore and then Kurama gathered SenChakra but it's not the chakra of the Bijuus U_U notherless

Chakra from Bijuu < there bodys
Fuuton > Raiton...


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Again moron, Naruto already wasted a lot of his chakra in Kaguya's fight while Sasuke just didn't nothing.
Sasuke even said that Naruto has not much chakra anymore and then Kurama gathered SenChakra but it's not the chakra of the Bijuus U_U notherless

Chakra from Bijuu < there bodys
Fuuton > Raiton...


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You do know your talking about a guy who has unlimited chakra right here? Lol
 

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Naruto not trying is like the biggest joke ever. The only thing he is not trying to do, is kill Sasuke. That does not mean he is not trying.

Oh, he is trying. Trying to figure out Sasuke's strength and to match it, so he can up a little and take him out without killing the poor misguided fool.

Try to knock out a fly. It's rather hard not too crush it.
 

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You do know your talking about a guy who has unlimited chakra right here? Lol

I am talking about Bijuu Chakra and Sasuke has much more of it U_U
Otherwise Kurama wouod not gather Senchakra...
This shows that Sasuke needs all Bijuus to keep up just with Naruto and Yin Kurama or did you see how he use chakra from other Bijuus ? Lava FRS or something like that ? I didn't see
 

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Sasuke before this fight rarely got to show his true feats.
Against Kaguya Sasuke was still getting used to the eye which he got 30 minutes earlier - he clearly wasn't in his top condition like now - No PS Chidori,or Rinnegans powers besides his teleportation,which mean no Black orbless CT which Capture all the Bijuu at the same time.

She already fodderized his PS (TSB can negate Raiton)

She already fodderized his S/T

I never seen that someone besides edo-Nagato uses normal CT for capturing human size targets... So i don't think that Sasuke really was holding back.
 

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Again moron, Naruto already wasted a lot of his chakra in Kaguya's fight while Sasuke just didn't nothing.
Sasuke even said that Naruto has not much chakra anymore and then Kurama gathered SenChakra but it's not the chakra of the Bijuus U_U notherless

Chakra from Bijuu < there bodys
Fuuton > Raiton...


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He was talking about him currently using alot of chakra during their battle not the Kaguya fight,and he did do things during the Kaguya fight? Was he not Teleporting? and using PS? and Chidori? Deos that also use chakra aswell?

and before you were saying he had their bodies then when i proved that wrong instead of admitting that you were wrong you switch and say chakra>body

lol



It makes sense that Naruto>Sasuke.

Sasuke with Doujutsu+Bijuus=Hagoromo

Kaguya>Hagoromo

And Naruto was better against her than Sasuke ... So it make sense that RMN>Rinnegan Sasuke with Bijuus.


I can compare them cuz both powers cames from Juubi and both Sasuke and Naruto weren't born with active powers ( they just have genes for Sharingan awakening and become Bijuu host)




Ok, Ok. Bijuus thinking for him twice in whole series.

It was more than twice - Shaz posted a third and there's surely more,reread chapters 571- now and you will see more times where the Kyuubi was thinking for Naruto,and eyes and living entities are very different.Eyes are part of the users body naturally - Bijuu are Gigantic living entities with their own chakra,unique powers (Lava,Magnet,etc),their own body etc.Comparing them to a persons body part and acting as if they're the same is dumb.
Sasuke before this fight rarely got to show his true feats. He was being held back for plot reasons. Just because Naruto was better against Kaguya, it does not make any sense to leave Sasuke out. Other wise you are seeing what the story is showing you while not seeing the full picture. I had predicted long ago this fight would happen. Hence why Sasuke was being held back. It makes perfect sense to me.

He wasn't held back for plot reasons,he was just still getting used to his new powers and learning how to use them and unlike Naruto and Kaguya he was not being powered by 9 Bijuu nor did he have them helping him,giving him strategies,applying their power for him etc or a Black Zetsu doing that.
 

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He was talking about him currently using alot of chakra during their battle not the Kaguya fight,and he did do things during the Kaguya fight? Was he not Teleporting? and using PS? and Chidori? Deos that also use chakra aswell?

and before you were saying he had their bodies then when i proved that wrong instead of admitting that you were wrong you switch and say chakra>body

lol





It was more than twice - Shaz posted a third and there's surely more,reread chapters 571- now and you will see more times where the Kyuubi was thinking for Naruto,and eyes and living entities are very different.Eyes are part of the users body naturally - Bijuu are Gigantic living entities with their own chakra,unique powers (Lava,Magnet,etc),their own body etc.Comparing them to a persons body part and acting as if they're the same is dumb.


He wasn't held back for plot reasons,he was just still getting used to his new powers and learning how to use them and unlike Naruto and Kaguya he was not being powered by 9 Bijuu nor did he have them helping him,giving him strategies,applying their power for him etc or a Black Zetsu doing that.

He has there bodies U_U He could just free them and fight with them ooh wait did Marara at Vote not fight with Kurama ? Cuz with your logic he didn't have Kurama cuz he was not inside of his body.....stupid....but i never expects something else from saske fapper...and that Sasuke used Bijuu Chakra is also not true ?

I saw Naruto only use Kurama and Sasuke used all Bijuu Chakra LooooooooooL
 
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She already fodderized his PS (TSB can negate Raiton)

She already fodderized his S/T

I never seen that someone besides edo-Nagato uses normal CT for capturing human size targets... So i don't think that Sasuke really was holding back.

i didn't say Sasuke was holding back.I said he was still getting use too his new powers.


I am talking about Bijuu Chakra and Sasuke has much more of it U_U
Otherwise Kurama wouod not gather Senchakra...
This shows that Sasuke needs all Bijuus to keep up just with Naruto and Yin Kurama or did you see how he use chakra from other Bijuus ? Lava FRS or something like that ? I didn't see

as i have already said.If Sasuke needed all the Bijuus to match Naruto then why didn't he get them before they started fighting? Why would he wait til Naruto is in Bijuu mode?

and why are you still saying Naruto only has the Yin Kyuubi? i already showed you the pages where the Sage says he has all of it.Naruto was only able to use tthe Lava Release,Magnet etc becauee the Bijuu applied their power to use RS.

i posted the scans above.


Oh, he is trying. Trying to figure out Sasuke's strength and to match it, so he can up a little and take him out without killing the poor misguided fool.

Try to knock out a fly. It's rather hard not too crush it.

If beating Sasuke was so easy for him then he wouldn't have to try hard.Whether he wants to kill him or not.

He has there bodies U_U He could just free thrm and fight with them ooh wait did Marara at Vote not fight with Kirama ? Cuz with your logic he didn't have Kirama inaide of his body.....stupid

You said he had their bodies,most likely implying he has them in him - i was pionting out how he only had their chakra - we don't know how much of jt he he has.
 
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i didn't say Sasuke was holding back.I said he was still getting use too his new powers.




as i have already said.If Sasuke needed all the Bijuus to match Naruto then why didn't he get them before they started fighting? Why would he wait til Naruto is in Bijuu mode?

and why are you still saying Naruto only has the Yin Kyuubi? i already showed you the pages where the Sage says he has all of it.Naruto was only able to use tthe Lava Release,Magnet etc becauee the Bijuu applied their power to use RS.

i posted the scans above.




If beating Sasuke was so easy for him then he wouldn't have to try hard.Whether he wants to kill him or not.

He thought he could kill him without the Bijuus and after Naruto could easily keep up even when he was holding back, he needed more power voilà he used Bijuu U_U

Now Naruto is fighting only with Kurama U_U or did you seen how he use the power of all other Bijuus? Noooo you didn't
 

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He thought he could kill him without the Bijuus and after Naruto could easily keep up even when he was holding back, he needed more power voilà he used Bijuu U_U

Now Naruto is fighting only with Kurama U_U or did you seen how he use the power of all other Bijuus? Noooo you didn't

Dude Naruto has their chakra but most likely can't use the Lava release,Magnet release etc because he was only able to do that because the Bijuus themselves applied their Nature Elements to Naruto's Rs.

Sasuke now has their chakra - will he use Magnet,Lava,etc release? Most likely not since he deosn't know how to like Naruto.Again the Sage himself has said Naruto has chakra from all the Bijuu,and i showed you the pages where he said that.

If Sasuke absolutely needed the Bijuu to beat Naruto then why did he not become upset that while he was suppousedly going all out,he couldn't beat Naruto?

as i said,he only got their power to make Naruto seroius.
 

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Dude Naruto has their chakra but most likely can't use the Lava release,Magnet release etc because he was only able to do that because the Bijuus themselves applied their Nature Elements to Naruto's Rs.

Sasuke now has their chakra - will he use Magnet,Lava,etc release? Most likely not since he deosn't know how to like Naruto.Again the Sage himself has said Naruto has chakra from all the Bijuu,and i showed you the pages where he said that.

If Sasuke absolutely needed the Bijuu to beat Naruto then why did he not become upset that while he was suppousedly going all out,he couldn't beat Naruto?

as i said,he only got their power to make Naruto seroius.

You are really unbelievable....
You are saying the Bijuus don't allow Naruto to use there chakra so that he can save there bodies and defeat Sasuke? This is ridiculous...

1. This chakra is not unlimited he can't regenerate it, only they Bijuus himself can it with there bodies U_U
Hagoromo just said that Naruto already had and have Chakra from all of them so they have a connection.
Hagoromo didn't say how much he has of them and it was before they started to fight, but after ot Sasuke said already he don't have much anymore !
So he has nothing more that he can use but then Kurama gathered SenChakra.

You are just trying to say "Both of them use Bijuu Chakra so this is a draw" it's not, Naruto is fighting only with Rikudō Senjutsu and Kurama but Sasuke need all Bijuus to even keep up.....you are so hard in denial OMG

Sasuke used the Bijuu Power so that he can kill Naruto he though he could finish him of after he figured out that Naruto does not have much chakra anymore and then Kurama gathered Sen like a Boss ; )
Why should Sasuke provoke Naruto if he only wants to kill him without a real fight ? This is nonsensical

You just can't accept that Sasuke needs an other power up after Hagoromo's gift to keep up with Naruto ; )
 
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You are really unbelievable....
You are saying the Bijuus don't allow Naruto to use there chakra so that he can save there bodies and defeat Sasuke? This is ridiculous...

1. This chakra is not unlimited he can't regenerate it, only they Bijuus himself can it with there bodies U_U
Hagoromo just said that Naruto already had and have Chakra from all of them so they have a connection.
Hagoromo didn't say how much he has of them amd it was before the started to fight, but Sasuke said already he don't have much anymore !
So he has nothing more that he can use but then Kurama gathered SenChakra.

You are just trying to say "Both of them use Bijuu Chakra so this is a draw" so it's not, Naruto is fighting only with Rikudō Senjutsu and Kurama but Sasuke need all Bijuus to even keep up.....you are so hard in denial OMG

Sasuke used the Bijuu Power so that he can kill Naruto he though he could finish him of after he figured out that Naruto does not have much chakra anymore and then Kurama gathered Sen like a Boss ; )
Why should Sasuke provoke Naruto if he only wants to kill him without a real fight ? This is nonsensical

i said he was only able to use Laval,Magnet etc release because the Bijuu put their nature element into Naruto's RS.He didn't do it on his own,and Sasuke was matching Naruto before he got the Bijuus power,and NOW Naruto is showing that he needs more chakra so you act like its only because Sasuke had the Bijuus chakra that he matched Naruto.

Naruto made three Kyuubi avatars and 3 Bijuu damas and then needed more chakra

If Sasuke never took their power and kept fighting him without it then Sasuke could have still matched those 3 Kyuubi avatar Bijuu damas and Naruto would be out of chakra.

Obvoiusly he didn't absoluetely need their chakra to win.
 
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