Theory about the origin of the ninja world. The dark past of Kaguya

[Sennin of Logic]

I'm sure most are aware of the inconsistencies in the ninja world's origins by now. Like how Hagoromo was stated to create the world, but obviously something existed before him considering he has a mom. Here's my opinion.


Remember this?

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I know I know. Many of you think this is a false statement. However, I don't. I think there's more than meets the eye.


Now look at this.

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She refers to the world as her "nursery" and BZ stated that Naruto and Sasuke would be "sacrificed for a new dimension," and talked about a plan. Needless to say, she has the power to create entire worlds. However, it might be deeper than that.

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So here's a question. Since IT effects everyone on the planet, how could there have been any survivors? They all would have all been caught at approximately the same time. In case you don't understand what I'm implying, I'm saying this. Perhaps there were none. Perhaps the ninja world is not the original world in NV.

Notice how it's stated that there's a "first dimension." I suspect this is where Kaguya lived originally. In an attempt to make peace, Kaguya probably kept fighting people who challenged her order. Inevitably, she destroyed all life. Frustrated, she created new dimensions, using IT to start over again and again. I think that Kaguya believes that humans should not have power at all after witnessing a brutal war, which would explain her obsession with chakra. All the dimensions Kaguya used to fight Naruto and Sasuke were failed dimensions she altered for combat afterwards. What Kaguya was trying to do right now was to make another dimensions since her chakra was spreading in the ninja world.



Now, how did the ninja world come to be? Here's what I think. I think that after Kaguya was defeated by Hagoromo and Haruma, Hagoromo took control of her power as the juubi jinchuriki. When he did so, he probably used the sword Obito introduced to create a new dimension, the ninja world. Of course, such power was temporary as chakra spread out. Presumably, since we say a sword made by truth-seeking orbs being the source of the ninja world and a statement about Kaguya making a new dimension as she was using a truth-seeking orbs, truth-seeking orbs somehow are used for the creation of dimensions. It probably also requires both the sun seal and moon seal.




Here's a bonus application for the new Naruto movie. Some of the plot is revealed that the moon is falling and destroying the world. What may happen is that Naruto obtains this power to create a new dimension for everyone to live in and usher in a new age hence "New Era Project."

 

[Nelmanaly]

Cool theory dude, i hope that something here is right

 

[xpatamonx]

Ooooooooooooooooooo I love this like so much
I need to clarify the third scan it almost sounds like BZ is saying that the current people of the ninja world were white zetsus who changed over time into ninjas ?
Umm I confused myself \:

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Ooooooooooooooooooo I love this like so much
I need to clarify the third scan it almost sounds like BZ is saying that the current people of the ninja world were white zetsus who changed over time into ninjas ?
Umm I confused myself \:

I don't think so. I think being a white Zetsu is a method for Kaguya to have warriors to fight for her that can be effective even without chakra. I'd imagine they run on pure natural energy or something. I think that chakra just naturally spreads out, weakening Kaguya.

 

[xpatamonx]

I don't think so. I think being a white Zetsu is a method for Kaguya to have warriors to fight for her that can be effective even without chakra. I'd imagine they run on pure natural energy or something. I think that chakra just naturally spreads out, weakening Kaguya.

Mm mm hmm yes that makes a lot more sense
Thanks

 

[Ansatsuken]

That possible, good job Senin, you are using logic very well

and it fit your name well-Senin of Logic.

 

[HairyTesicles]

i like this, bump

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Good theory. Its likely something along those lines.
However at the time we believe the first IT did not affect the whole world, as there was no Moon. Remember, the Infinite Tsukuyoumi can be done through the moon because the jubis body was sealed in it, so there is the link, there is no evidence to suggest that kaguyas first IT affected the entire world.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Good possibility but i can't see naruto gaining the ability of creating dimensions tho. :/

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Good possibility but i can't see naruto gaining the ability of creating dimensions tho :/

Not in the manga, but I think it'll happen in the movie.

 

[KCMNaruto]

excellent thread

JJ Hagoromo reshaping/recreating the Whole world after battle against Juubi proves that

 

[Conspirator.]

This is a pretty good theory. Quite plausible I think.