Why did Naruto only have 3 Bijuu orbs behind him?

[The Necromancer]

Hum, I see. Yeah, makes sense. So, we're working with this: Rikudou's gift improved the power up they would receive even further beyond, taking them to a level above, and somewhat completing them: Naruto, gaining the gudou dama, completing his RM, and sasuke getting an evolved rinnegan.

That's what you're saying, right? It's logical.

Yeah pretty much. It's really all I can infer right now with as little as we know.

 

[Zawerni]

Naruto used 3 to seal Madara's Limbo.

He then lost one in the lava dimension (used as platform for Sasuke) when Kaguya swapped to the Ice Dimension.

He used to 2 to bind Black Zetsu.

The 3 near Madara are outside Naruto's 70 meter range to control the TSBs, and the other 3 are gone for good assuming they cannot be recreated leaving him with only 3.

This is the answer.

I swear some members need to stop posting when they don't actually know the answer to a question.

The balls disintegrate when the user's chakra disappears, as seen with the balls that were on Minato from Madara.

When Naruto was teleported to the lava dimension, the 3 rods used to bind Madara's Limbo clone would have disintegrated. Same with the ball Sasuke used as a platform in the lava dimension when they were teleported to the ice dimension, and the 2 rods used to bind Black Zetsu once they were summoned back to the real world.

And there's nothing saying he can't recreate the disintegrated balls.

 

[The Necromancer]

The balls disintegrate when the user's chakra disappears, as seen with the balls that were on Minato from Madara.

When Naruto was teleported to the lava dimension, the 3 rods used to bind Madara's Limbo clone would have disintegrated. Same with the ball Sasuke used as a platform in the lava dimension when they were teleported to the ice dimension, and the 2 rods used to bind Black Zetsu once they were summoned back to the real world.

And there's nothing saying he can't recreate the disintegrated balls.

Naruto's chakra is active no matter what dimension he is in. The Gudoudama will never disintegrate so long as Naruto lives.

@Bold: The fact that he never has, and the fact that he has always used a total of 9 says differently.

 

[Zawerni]

@Bold: The fact that he never has, and the fact that he has always used a total of 9 says differently.

That's just assumption based on him not doing it yet. It's still possible.

He wasn't aware that the balls would disintegrate and he also doesn't know how to fully use them yet.

 

[Imaginesafety]

Soo will he get those goudo damas back or not? i find it stupid that he would just lose them after gaining a power up

It would be stupid indeed. He looked so badass with them. If they never die out, this leads me to think that Naruto could possibly summon them back to him.

 

[Wolfus]

Yeah pretty much. It's really all I can infer right now with as little as we know.

I noticed that madara also "lost" his gudou dama in his fight with gai. Minato teleported them to konoha... This gudou dama process bugs me, though. Makes no sense for one to lose them. After all, they would be a special kind of chakra that can be used when one is the juubi's jinchuriki. In theory, people should be able to recreate them,as the JJ would still have the juubi's chakra.

 

[The Necromancer]

That's just assumption based on him not doing it yet. It's still possible.

He wasn't aware that the balls would disintegrate and he also doesn't know how to fully use them yet.

Everything you're saying is assumption. Don't throw around the assumption card when you have even less evidence to support your claim.

 

[CDT23]

He can probably recreate them but it will take time. They're base isn't plain chakra, so Naruto probably needs special conditions if he wants to make more.

 

[Zawerni]

Everything your saying is assumption. Don't throw around the assumption card when you have even less evidence to support your claim.

The part about the balls disintegrating when the user's chakra disappears isn't assumption. It's already been shown. The part about Naruto being able to recreate them is, I never said it wasn't and I never claimed it to be fact.

 

[Imaginesafety]

I noticed that madara also "lost" his gudou dama in his fight with gai. Minato teleported them to konoha... This gudou dama process bugs me, though. Makes no sense for one to lose them. After all, they would be a special kind of chakra that can be used when one is the juubi's jinchuriki. In theory, people should be able to recreate them,as the JJ would still have the juubi's chakra.

There has to be a way to get them back. It probably takes time? Because there'd be no point in having them if it's one and done.

 

[The Necromancer]

The part about the balls disintegrating when the user's chakra disappears isn't assumption. It's already been shown. The part about Naruto being able to recreate them is, I never said it wasn't and I never claimed it to be fact.

Madara's Gudoudama didn't disintegrate when he was in the Kamui dimension, only after he died. U_U

 

[Zawerni]

Madara's Gudoudama didn't disintegrate when he was in the Kamui dimension, only after he died. U_U

Madara didn't die until after Kaguya was sealed, long after those Gudoudama disintegrated.

 

[The Necromancer]

Madara didn't die until after Kaguya was sealed, long after those Gudoudama disintegrated.

The Gudoudama disintegrated minutes after Madara's death, 6 chapters after he entered the Kamui dimension.

Madara was for all intents and purposes, dead after Kaguya assimilated his form. His chakra was gone, which led to the disintegration of his Gudoudama.

You have claimed that the loss of Naruto's chakra would occur while traveling through dimensions. It does not. Not even the deactivation of his cloak disrupts his chakra and disintegrates the Gudoudama.

The manga has disproved everything you have said.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

The balls disintegrate when the user's chakra disappears, as seen with the balls that were on Minato from Madara.

When Naruto was teleported to the lava dimension, the 3 rods used to bind Madara's Limbo clone would have disintegrated. Same with the ball Sasuke used as a platform in the lava dimension when they were teleported to the ice dimension, and the 2 rods used to bind Black Zetsu once they were summoned back to the real world.

And there's nothing saying he can't recreate the disintegrated balls.

I'd have to disagree. When Madara was taken over by BZ and used to revive Kaguya, he was stripped of all his chakra. That is why he had neither the Rinnegan nor Hashi's face on his chest after he was spit out. Since he lost the RSM, the TSBs disintegrated. Naruto, however, still has his chakra and his RSM so the ones he used should still remain active regardless of which dimension he is in. Madara TSBs with Minato did not disappear when he teleported to the Kamui Dimension after taking Kakashi's eye.

 

[Wolfus]

There has to be a way to get them back. It probably takes time? Because there'd be no point in having them if it's one and done.

There would be no point, and it makes no sense. It's chakra. And even if it wasn't, how would that even work? They magically appear once you transform, but the rules of transformation allows only one set of 9? Makes no sense to me.

 

[The Necromancer]

I'd have to disagree. When Madara was taken over by BZ and used to revive Kaguya, he was stripped of all his chakra. That is why he had neither the Rinnegan nor Hashi's face on his chest after he was spit out. Since he lost the RSM, the TSBs disintegrated. Naruto, however, still has his chakra and his RSM so the ones he used should still remain active regardless of which dimension he is in. Madara TSBs with Minato did not disappear when he teleported to the Kamui Dimension after taking Kakashi's eye.

Exactly. And even in "base" form, the Gudoudamas are still well and good.

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[Zawerni]

The Gudoudama disintegrated minutes after Madara's death, 6 chapters after he entered the Kamui dimension.

Madara was for all intents and purposes, dead after Kaguya assimilated his form. His chakra was gone, which led to the disintegration of his Gudoudama.

You have claimed that the loss of Naruto's chakra would occur while traveling through dimensions. It does not. Not even the deactivation of his cloak disrupts his chakra and disintegrates the Gudoudama.

The manga has disproved everything you have said.

Even if you say this, Madara was still not dead as he was alive after Kaguya was sealed. But regardless, Kaguya would have still had his chakra along with everyone else's chakra she was getting from the tree. The balls disintegrated after Kaguya went into the lava dimension.

Travelling into another dimension would cause the presence of Naruto's chakra in the previous dimension to disappear. He would no longer be in that dimension. His chakra wouldn't just hang around without him. The deactivation of his cloak doesn't change his chakra still being there, thus it has no effect on the gudoudama.

In the case of Madara and Kamui, he was bisected before warping, and only half his body made it through. That means his other half was still in the real world. And as it's been shown in this manga, even a single cell still carries the person's chakra (Hashirama) so half of Madara's body would be enough to keep the gudoudama solid.

Kaguya was absorbing chakra from everyone. The half of Madara's body that was left behind by her was most likely devoid of his chakra, causing the gudoudama to disintegrate after Kaguya, who now possessed Madara's chakra, left to another dimension.

 

[The Necromancer]

Even if you say this, Madara was still not dead as he was alive after Kaguya was sealed. But regardless, Kaguya would have still had his chakra along with everyone else's chakra she was getting from the tree. The balls disintegrated after Kaguya went into the lava dimension.

Travelling into another dimension would cause the presence of Naruto's chakra in the previous dimension to disappear. He would no longer be in that dimension. His chakra wouldn't just hang around without him. The deactivation of his cloak doesn't change his chakra still being there, thus it has no effect on the gudoudama.

In the case of Madara and Kamui, he was bisected before warping, and only half his body made it through. That means his other half was still in the real world. And as it's been shown in this manga, even a single cell still carries the person's chakra (Hashirama) so half of Madara's body would be enough to keep the gudoudama solid.

Kaguya was absorbing chakra from everyone. The half of Madara's body that was left behind by her was most likely devoid of his chakra, causing the gudoudama to disintegrate after Kaguya, who now possessed Madara's chakra, left to another dimension.

I lost count, did you contradict yourself 3 or 4 times in this single response?

 

[Zawerni]

I lost count, did you contradict yourself 3 or 4 times in this single response?

Show me where I contradicted myself then.

 

[The Necromancer]

Show me where I contradicted myself then.

Nah. I tire of this. Chalk this up as a victory for yourself if you need to satisfy some ego, but your debate has not entertained me enough to want to continue it.

Circling back around the same fallacies and misinterpreted facts is boring.