[Discussion] Why do ppl think kaido is weaker then shanks ?

[Punk Hazard]

Well, I am aware of that. Nami's words hinta that he isn't a human but at the same time he words hints that humans are separated from his title. At the very least I am confidant about Dragon being stronger than Kaido who is why I don't think humans are included in his title.

I don't think so. Newgate's title as world's strongest man is probably an indicator that of all humans, he's the strongest, while Kaido's title as World Strongest Creature means he's the strongest creature, which includes humans by default. Nami's words don't indicate that human beings are excluded from what his title means, but that his title reveals that he's not human.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I don't think so. Newgate's title as world's strongest man is probably an indicator that of all humans, he's the strongest, while Kaido's title as World Strongest Creature means he's the strongest creature, which includes humans by default. Nami's words don't indicate that human beings are excluded from what his title means, but that his title reveals that he's not human.

When was the last time you heard someone call a person a creature?

 

[Punk Hazard]

When was the last time you heard someone call a person a creature?

Crea·ture noun \ˈkrē-chər\
: an animal of any type

: an imaginary or very strange kind of animal

: a person usually of a specified type

Full Definition of CREATURE

1
: something created either animate or inanimate: as
a : a lower animal; especially : a farm animal
b : a human being
Being educated can be good ya know.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Crea·ture noun \ˈkrē-chər\
: an animal of any type

: an imaginary or very strange kind of animal

: a person usually of a specified type

Full Definition of CREATURE

1
: something created either animate or inanimate: as
a : a lower animal; especially : a farm animal
b : a human being
Being educated can be good ya know.

I know that a creature can also be a human, but my point is that the Marines were probably thinking of non-human animals when they gave him the title of "World's Strongest Creature".

 

[Punk Hazard]

I know that a creature can also be a human, but my point is that the Marines were probably thinking of non-human animals when they gave him the title of "World's Strongest Creature".

1. Marines don't give out epithets, for example, Kidd's nickname of Captain.

2. Creatures include human beings so all of these posts about humans are excluded are crap. Believe it or not, Whitebeard just might not be the pinnacle of the One Piece world, let it go. The man is dead, it's time for further characters to take the shine.

 

[Ryuma720]

The Hype of Shanks

 

[A v i]

Crea·ture noun \ˈkrē-chər\
: an animal of any type

: an imaginary or very strange kind of animal

: a person usually of a specified type

Full Definition of CREATURE

1
: something created either animate or inanimate: as
a : a lower animal; especially : a farm animal
b : a human being
Being educated can be good ya know.

We don't have to take the meanings so literally. As I said before there are people(humans) that are clearly portrayed to be stronger than him which is why I strongly believe that his title does not include humans. If you believe otherwise then I have no problem with it and everything we can do at this point is to wait and see.

 

[Punk Hazard]

We don't have to take the meanings so literally. As I said before there are people(humans) that are clearly portrayed to be stronger than him which is why I strongly believe that his title does not include humans. If you believe otherwise then I have no problem with it and everything we can do at this point is to wait and see.

LOL really? Like what? What feats have we seen from Kaido that when compared to these characters make his portrayal below them? What specific people and what specific feats from both parties are you comparing?

 

[A v i]

LOL really? Like what? What feats have we seen from Kaido that when compared to these characters make his portrayal below them? What specific people and what specific feats from both parties are you comparing?

Posting arguments for the sake of arguing as always.hmm

I said wait and see and you'll see for yourself.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Posting arguments for the sake of arguing as always.hmm

I said wait and see and you'll see for yourself.

As I thought, you're guessing. I'll stick to what words mean, rather than guessing.

 

[A v i]

As I thought, you're guessing. I'll stick to what words mean, rather than guessing.

Ok,then lets take the words super literally. According to manga Shanks fought kaido and made him quit his objective and he didn't even managed to put a dent on Shanks which proves that he is weaker than Shanks.

Satisfied?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Ok,then lets take the words super literally. According to manga Shanks fought kaido and made him quit his objective and he didn't even managed to put a dent on Shanks which proves that he is weaker than Shanks.

Satisfied?

Unreasonable, not even said, so no, fail.

 

[A v i]

Unreasonable, not even said, so no, fail.

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[Punk Hazard]

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I still don't see anything there saying what your post said.

 

[A v i]

I still don't see anything there saying what your post said.

What is that you can't see there? The point where I said that Shanks fought Kaido? or the fact that Shanks made him quit his objective? Or the point in which I said that Shanks was unharmed?


That page explains everything. Shanks fought Kaido and Kaido did not appeared at MF means that Shanks made him quit his objective. Simple as that. It shouldn't be that hard to understand for a genius like yourself.

 

[Aømine]

What is that you can't see there? The point where I said that Shanks fought Kaido? or the fact that Shanks made him quit his objective? Or the point in which I said that Shanks was unharmed?


That page explains everything. Shanks fought Kaido and Kaido did not appeared at MF means that Shanks made him quit his objective. Simple as that. It shouldn't be that hard to understand for a genius like yourself.

Dude why do you still keep arguing with him? He thinks he's Oda himself and the shit he spreads is the only truth.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

It could include humans, but just be a way to distinguish him as another species.

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now everyone STFU

 

[Punk Hazard]

What is that you can't see there? The point where I said that Shanks fought Kaido? or the fact that Shanks made him quit his objective? Or the point in which I said that Shanks was unharmed?


That page explains everything. Shanks fought Kaido and Kaido did not appeared at MF means that Shanks made him quit his objective. Simple as that. It shouldn't be that hard to understand for a genius like yourself.

It has nothing to do with being a genius. His title is the strongest creature in the world, or strongest thing alive[

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]. The difference between this and the Shanks scan you posted is that it doesn't clear up anything.

For one, it's one Marines' speculation that they fought. As in, he doesn't know for a fact that they fought, or even confronted each other violently. On the other hand, "Strongest creature in the world"/"Strongest thing alive" isn't as ambiguous, nor is it mere speculation. Yes, it may not be literal, it may not mean that Kaido is the strongest character in the show, but it does not change the meaning of words. "Creature" still includes human beings, and there has been nothing in the manga that suggests otherwise. I have the definition that hasn't been disputed in the manga to back what I'm saying up, you have an unrelated, misinterpreted manga page and a gut feeling.

Dude why do you still keep arguing with him? He thinks he's Oda himself and the shit he spreads is the only truth.

By this logic, almost every single person in here thinks they're Oda. It's called expressing your opinion. I disagree, and I say why, he's doing the exact same thing, so I don't know why you're on my case about it.

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now everyone STFU

Right? Nothing indicates his epithet doesn't include humans, I don't understand the need to exclude humans.

 

[A v i]

It has nothing to do with being a genius. His title is the strongest creature in the world, or strongest thing alive[

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]. The difference between this and the Shanks scan you posted is that it doesn't clear up anything.

It clears up everything if u take the words of marines literally. Shanks fought him according to marines and It was Shanks who reached MF but not Kaido which means that Shanks was the winner and Shanks was clearly unharmed.

For one, it's one Marines' speculation that they fought. As in, he doesn't know for a fact that they fought, or even confronted each other violently.

Lol,What? Where did this came from? Has anyone stated that the news was fake? If the news was a fake then why didn't Kaido appeared at MF? Do u have any proof that suggests this point. or Are u just guessing this?

As I thought, you're guessing. I'll stick to what words mean, rather than guessing.

hmm

On the other hand, "Strongest creature in the world"/"Strongest thing alive" isn't as ambiguous, nor is it mere speculation. Yes, it may not be literal, it may not mean that Kaido is the strongest character in the show, but it does not change the meaning of words. "Creature" still includes human beings, and there has been nothing in the manga that suggests otherwise. I have the definition that hasn't been disputed in the manga to back what I'm saying up, you have an unrelated, misinterpreted manga page and a gut feeling.

We have a manga panel that suggests otherwise so I have no reason to believe that his title includes humans.

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now everyone STFU

I thought that you are one of those guys who thinks that Dragon is the current strongest character in OP but I guess i was wrong.

 

[juju15]

You think Shanks no diff a Yonkou. You fanboys are out. Of control. They negotiated most likely. None of Shanks or his crew had injuries. They clearly didn't look like they coming from a fight.