[Predictions] Naruto Manga 479 Discussion and 480 Predictions

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i totally agree with you, i sed the a similar thing in the last thread, about how people are so quick to make danzou the villian when he was the one who was attacked by madara. i hope danzou escapes. and im not a danzou fan neither just speaking the truth.xd
thanks man i guess i m not the only person who thinks that Danzou might not be the villainxd

Just a wild guess.................................what if ......................
Sasuke is not fighting. Danzou and the others are in a genjustsu that sasuke created, he is just toying with him and when Danzou is done he will have his way with him. That will turn this tale on its head and show sasuke as the real counterpart of naruto an ultimate genjutsu ninja........Kishi is a magician he will have something up his sleeve
a very interesting way of thinking but we saw that Sasuke was able to put Danzou in a genjutsu just for a while can't imagine Danzou getting caught in a genjutsu for such a long time with all those Sharingans.
 
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thanks man i guess i m not the only person who thinks that Danzou might not be the villainxd

i too think that danzou is not a villain.......he just do everything for the safety of the village........he ordered to massacre the uchiha so that the village will be peaceful........he experimented his body and planted the sharingan so that he could protect the village.......he controlled the man in the summit to make konoha the leader so that there wont be any problems for the village............he just does everything for the safety of the village but his ways of doing it earns him bad name and thus we think him as a villain...............and i think that danzou will survive this fight...........

Just a wild guess.................................what if ......................
Sasuke is not fighting. Danzou and the others are in a genjustsu that sasuke created, he is just toying with him and when Danzou is done he will have his way with him. That will turn this tale on its head and show sasuke as the real counterpart of naruto an ultimate genjutsu ninja........Kishi is a magician he will have something up his sleeve
there is no chance for that.........absolutely not possible at all........i dont think sasuke can use tsukuyomi for such a long time thats highly doubtful.......................
 
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i totally agree with you, i sed the a similar thing in the last thread, about how people are so quick to make danzou the villian when he was the one who was attacked by madara. i hope danzou escapes. and im not a danzou fan neither just speaking the truth.xd
Of course Danzo is a villian! He ordered the massacre of the Uchiha clan and then harvested eyes from the corpses. He facilitated the invasion of Konoha when Orochimaru killed the Third Hokage: He had been working with Orochimaru and specifically told his followers in Root not to help with the defense. He tried to use genjutsu on the other Kages to gain personal power in the ninja alliance.

The man is a villain.

Villains can hate each other too. Akatsuki and Orochimaru are both villains but they hated each other. Sasuke and Itachi were both villains and they fought to the death. (and yes, I know Itachi was only pretending mostly, but he did massacre all Uchiha including women and children).

Danzo and Madara are both villains and they hate each other. It's no real stretch to see that.
 
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Two things i found it very odd:-
1. Finally we knew Danzo's fighting abilities. I was wondering how could he lost to the Third Hokage for the kage title. He could have easily killed the Sandaime Hokage. Kishi, i think its your mistake.
2. Why do people keep saying about Itachi's eye implanted on Sasuke. Itachi is already dead. So imo Itachi's eye will be of no use anymore. If you compare with Madara and his brother, its totally different. Madara's brother was alive at that time.
1. Don't underestimate the third hokage I thought he was pretty strong to take on the first hokage, the second hokage, and oro at the same time.

2. It's highly likely that madara is preserving itachi's eyes the same way that danzou is probably preserving more sharingon eye's in his lair.
 

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Damn theres alot of new gennin around :p

I dont think danzo will die because usualy before a major villain dies we have a speach from them or a flashback with a couple of exceptions, i think he will tell his story of how he got the sharingan emplanted and why he is the way he is, then die or just run lol
 
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man just guessed the time guys.........i know that he fought him before 10 yrs may be ...........but he would have fought for the title if he had learnt izanagi at that time itself.......
are you stupid or something kages never fought for he position like at tsunade did she fight for the kage position did kakashi or the fourth hokage? No they WERE CHOSEN BY PREVIOUS HOKAGES!!!! Or they we're elected by village leaders and jounins god get this through your head.
 

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1. Don't underestimate the third hokage I thought he was pretty strong to take on the first hokage, the second hokage, and oro at the same time.

2. It's highly likely that madara is preserving itachi's eyes the same way that danzou is probably preserving more sharingon eye's in his lair.
1. he did that when he was like 70 so imagine him when he was younge :D, he was known as the proffesor because he mastered all jutsu in the village, also i dont think danzo had the sharingan when he fought the 3rd

2. seems logical
 

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Just a wild guess.................................what if ......................
Sasuke is not fighting. Danzou and the others are in a genjustsu that sasuke created, he is just toying with him and when Danzou is done he will have his way with him. That will turn this tale on its head and show sasuke as the real counterpart of naruto an ultimate genjutsu ninja........Kishi is a magician he will have something up his sleeve
a very interesting way of thinking but we saw that Sasuke was able to put Danzou in a genjutsu just for a while can't imagine Danzou getting caught in a genjutsu for such a long time with all those Sharingans.
 

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many people are saying that Orochimaru summoned the first two Hokages so he is stronger than them and the Third defeated them at that age so he is super strong. But i think thats not the case. Yes Orochimaru did summoned them by place thier cells or something in a dead body but we don't know much power of the real Hokages those body's had. Orochimaru even changed their personality. I just think that as every technique has got a limit or weakness this technique could have the body the powers of the Original ninja whose cell is being taken but not the full power comes in the body. What i meant to say those guys who fought the Third did looked and had memories of the First and Second but remember the ANBU members who were watching said "Hokage sama don't be fooled they are not the real First and Second" so those two had the powers of the real ones but not the full power. Maybe one third of their original power(just a guess)

i don't think there is any ninja who can take on the First and Second Hokages single handedly. Madara who is all so powerful even now with only one EMS was defeated by the First. And we are saying the Third when that old was still stronger than the both of them???? doesn't make any sense but if u think that they didn't had the full powers then it makes sense. I know that the Third was said as "The God of the Ninja world" but when he was at his prime. Orochimaru was stronger than the Third but when he was old and we know how easily Orochimaru was easily defeated by Itachi. So its clear that those two guys Orochimaru summoned and the Third defeated didn't had the full powers of the First and Second(guess i repeated it twice or thrice but its important)

i want to know some opinions about this and if i said something wrong or incorrect please tell me:)
 

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many people are saying that Orochimaru summoned the first two Hokages so he is stronger than them and the Third defeated them at that age so he is super strong. But i think thats not the case. Yes Orochimaru did summoned them by place thier cells or something in a dead body but we don't know much power of the real Hokages those body's had. Orochimaru even changed their personality. I just think that as every technique has got a limit or weakness this technique could have the body the powers of the Original ninja whose cell is being taken but not the full power comes in the body. What i meant to say those guys who fought the Third did looked and had memories of the First and Second but remember the ANBU members who were watching said "Hokage sama don't be fooled they are not the real First and Second" so those two had the powers of the real ones but not the full power. Maybe one third of their original power(just a guess)

i don't think there is any ninja who can take on the First and Second Hokages single handedly. Madara who is all so powerful even now with only one EMS was defeated by the First. And we are saying the Third when that old was still stronger than the both of them???? doesn't make any sense but if u think that they didn't had the full powers then it makes sense. I know that the Third was said as "The God of the Ninja world" but when he was at his prime. Orochimaru was stronger than the Third but when he was old and we know how easily Orochimaru was easily defeated by Itachi. So its clear that those two guys Orochimaru summoned and the Third defeated didn't had the full powers of the First and Second(guess i repeated it twice or thrice but its important)

i want to know some opinions about this and if i said something wrong or incorrect please tell me:)
He did defeat them but i believe they were holding back against there friend, also in the end i dont think anyone could beat the reaper death seal, not even the kyuubi, so he did beat them and kind of rape orochimaru at the same time :D And you will find that the 3rd hokage was stronger than oro in his prime anyway as oro said he should of killed him when he had the chance.
 

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there is no chance for that.........absolutely not possible at all........i dont think sasuke can use tsukuyomi for such a long time thats highly doubtful.......................
It is possible if Sasuke managed to Upgrade his tsukoyomi and alter Danzou's perception of time...and what the mangga is showing is Danzou's point of view of sasukes illusion...
 

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Ao fought shisui...and he said Shisui has the power to control minds without making the enemy know they are being controled,,
I can't believe I forgot that...this is how they figure out Danzo is controlling the samurai right? In that case, I think it unlikely that Danzo has MS, because I still think it unlikely that Shisui had MS for the same reasons I previously stated...however, the fact he can only use it once a day, and the fact that it is not a standard sharingan ability (although I suppose it could be advanced genjutsu) do point towards the possibility of it being MS. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 

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#1 - It's not kishi's fault that you guyz forget things. Danzo fought for the hokage title way before the uchiha massacre. Sarutobi was already the hokage by the time uchiha massacre happened. So when danzo fought sarutobi he didn't have a single sharingan on him and sarutobi must have been better than him.

#2 - Do you guyz remember when itachi used tykuyomi on sasuke he ripped sasuke's eye and quickly stored it in a container filled with some kind of liquid so that it can be used later on (anime showed this better). I think madara has done the same thing with itachi's eyes.
Can't believe you guyz still talking about this. :p
 

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god damn this sasuke and his eyes that have 3 incredible powers that if one master 100 techniques couldnt do anything to a uchiha , but sasuke is going blind quicker then ever and will end up taking itachi's eyes cause thats was madara wants and need him to do , but i can picture it now

after the so called operation

sasuke unwraps his eye bandage

opens his eyes

EMS the ultimate one ever

the entire area freezes

madara kirin some others are completely frozen and sasuke is able to do as he please and just ponders

he collapses to the incredible power he jus obtained

everyone unfreezes and doesnt realize wat jus happened

madara shows some fear for the very first time
 

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god damn this sasuke and his eyes that have 3 incredible powers that if one master 100 techniques couldnt do anything to a uchiha , but sasuke is going blind quicker then ever and will end up taking itachi's eyes cause thats was madara wants and need him to do , but i can picture it now

after the so called operation

sasuke unwraps his eye bandage

opens his eyes

EMS the ultimate one ever

the entire area freezes

madara kirin some others are completely frozen and sasuke is able to do as he please and just ponders

he collapses to the incredible power he jus obtained

everyone unfreezes and doesnt realize wat jus happened

madara shows some fear for the very first time
This made me lol, even ems cant do this lol if it could how come madara lost to the first hokage? I think its just ms but you wont go blind lol
 

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You have great points there is no way saskue will die anytime soon eventhough his character does get on my nervous he is naruto greatest friend and foe and he has to stay. Like you said they are both the protaganist in the story and also they show the different sides of everyone love and hate and which one is stronger because as you can see both can giveu strength.
Arigatou yo, for admitting that you're not crazy about Sasuke's character but can at the very least acknowledge what I had to say on Sasuke's behalf ^.^

Hey i just notices something I don't know if someone else brought this up but i remeber after the naruto pain fight that everyone was saying he won because he was getting info from katstyu but isn't saskue getting the same help from karin and i am not saying saskue is weak because of it its just somthing that really caught my eye this chapter.
Dude in chapter four-seventy-seven Karin began to pay attention to Danzou's actions. In four seventy-eight she felt Sasuke's chakra change, observed more from Daznou and also sensed his chakra take a dive. Take a look below:


Can you tell me that what Karin shouts out to Sasuke is telling him the complete information on Danzou?

She continues to watch trying to decipher the closing eyes and then senses another drop in Danzou's chakra reserve. In chapter four seventy-nine you mainly see Karin thinking to herself how she can figure out Izanagi so that she could help Sasuke and she does later on. Take a look below once more :


Karin is cut off by Sasuke whom is already asking Danzou about the technique to which he gives an answer thus confirming what Sasuke had predetermined already. Look, it isn't that I'm not giving her any points but rather that it is very obvious that Sasuke throughout that whole fight had been observing him as well.

No offense to you when I say this but if you had read my post really well you would have seen that I explained it there, though you didn't so hopefully this can help you better.

Well if you have been paying close attention, sasuke hasnt really killed anyone who is good as of yet, well apart from his brother
Remember Sasuke might've had a role in weakening Itachi but it was ultimately Itachi who gave in at the end to his illness and died so Sasuke wasn't successful in doing so.

i think he killed some samurai at the kage summit, im just making observasions
As this is your opinion, I have to say that it could have gone either way because it was never verified whether or not Sasuke indeed murdered those Samurai but I don't believe he did.

But at the same encounter, he hardly cared or awknowledged Sakura. He probably would kill her easily without hesitation.
Dude are you serious? Take a look below:



These two different situations express how Sasuke felt for the ones he cared about and it obviously includes Sakura.


This furthermore proves that he did care for Sakura, we were even left without knowing how much because in the panel Sasuke's face cuts at the eyes. Feel free to read that whole chapter if you still have any denial.

Danzou seems to have a lot of respect for Itachi in his fight with Sasuke he hasn't said anything bad about Itachi. He just said Itachi made one mistake and that is to let Sasuke live and also said Itachi is not the only one to make sacrifice for peace and all that. Maybe Danzou actually have a lot of respect for Itachi.....
That show he put on about supposedly having respect for Itachi could have easily been to toy with Sasuke's mind/emotions. Not to mention, did you forget how Danzou betrayed Itachi by sending Sai on that assassination mission to kill a certain Uchiha? He has absolutely no respect for Itachi because if he had an ounce then he would have respected him and had never sent that order in the first place.

I hope sasuke dies! Or when sakura get there, and joined battle, and killed by either sasuke or danzu xd then naruto knows, he will avange for sasuke or sakura, at the end, naruto is gonna fight madara or sasuke! :d:d
Absolutely no logic in your post whatsoever.

i too think that danzou is not a villain.......he just do everything for the safety of the village........he ordered to massacre the uchiha so that the village will be peaceful........he experimented his body and planted the sharingan so that he could protect the village.......he controlled the man in the summit to make konoha the leader so that there wont be any problems for the village............he just does everything for the safety of the village but his ways of doing it earns him bad name and thus we think him as a villain...............and i think that danzou will survive this fight...........
You simply like Danzou's villainous character because that is the only way you can turn a blind to all that he has done and write it all as the opposite.

Sasuke and Itachi were both villains and they fought to the death. (and yes, I know Itachi was only pretending mostly, but he did massacre all Uchiha including women and children).
I completely agree with your post with the exception of Itachi and Sasuke being villains. Itachi/Sasuke were labeled that way but if you have really paid attention to these two characters throughout the manga's progression then you will see that they are not coldblooded. Itachi was forced into an incomprehensible situation and chose the decision he thought was correct which was to ultimately protect the village even though he unfortunately was unaware that Madara was the ingnition of the event due to revenge/Danzou for personal power and control/elders each having their own selfish interest in the massacre and Itachi who completed with the unimaginable feat (with Madara's help). Sasuke what can we say about Sasuke? Well haters will say that he should die/his decisions were incorrect but what they are either not/unwilling to understand is that he was forced into it by his brother. If Itachi had not pushed him into that role he possibly wouldn't have gone through the path he did or if he did, he probably would have chose to do it with the correct decisions. The reason why I say this is because in pre-timeskip as Sasuke had been on missions with his team, his vengeance began to weaken. Orochimaru then branded him the curse seal which granted power along with temptation thus throwing him back on that path he was seemingly forgetting about. Although, Itachi decided that Sasuke was to "avenge" his clan by killing him and applied Tsukuyomi (also including the time when he returned to Konoha) which only scared this seven year old boy emotionally and mentally for the rest of his life as proven when he has gone this far with that vendetta. It only got worse when he found out Itachi's true intentions and even though Itachi did not plan for Sasuke to be that out of control it indeed happen and in my opinion gives him partial fault. So I might not agree with Sasuke's poor decisions but I can understand how he was pushed into that position by Orochimaru and his own brother no less. I dislike Naruto, I honestly do but at least I appreciate the fact that he has never stopped searching for Sasuke and as well understands him wholeheartedly (seemingly the only one in the manga).​
 
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