Why "Borrowed power" isnt borrowed power

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then Barrowed is the wrong word

I agree with you.

Anyways, even though I consider naruto as a 2 on 1 against sasuke, I think that the friendship established with kurama makes it acceptable, especially since that is one of the themes in naruto.
The argument is a moot point anyways since it'll happen regardless.
 

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Borrowing: Borrow or borrowing can mean: to receive (something) from somebody temporarily, expecting to return it.
Naruto is not returning Kurama's Charka therefore it is not a borrowed power
So it's stolen power? Dang, Naruto really is weak without his biju buddies. :/
 

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So it's stolen power? Dang, Naruto really is weak without his biju buddies. :/

It's a Given power, Kurama is giving Naruto Charka, or as Naruto said it in Part 1 "paying rent"
 
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So it's stolen power? Dang, Naruto really is weak without his biju buddies. :/

yea, well ppl not all are not born special eyes or a famous family there to teach, Naruto grew with no family , he had no one there to teach uzamaki's techs ,unlike sasuke the village hated his guts, naruto has go with what has, and that is the ninetails
 

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This thread backfired hard lol.

As you should know by now when it comes to Sasuke and Naruto the fans will bash rip tear each other a new ******* before agreeing to anything.

You should've just gone with the usual Sasuke>Naruto or Naruto>Sasuke thread because initially thats what it became. Sorry dude :/
 

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Wrong. We have seen Lee walk on top of water so he uses chakra and he uses the "gates". A technique that increases in chakra flow in ones body.

It does increase the chakra flow in the body, doesn't mean it's remotely usable. Chakra is utilized to create jutsu, lee's taijutsu relies solely on strength vs neji's is internal. This has been stated by Gai himself.
 
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They're insecure and have absolutely zero faith in their fav. So sad.


You essentially just admitted that Naruto is too fodder to do anything on his own.

That is the only reason you all try to refute the "borrowed power" argument; you all are insecure and know that Naruto, at his core, is weak.
I reuse the borrowed power argument because it makes it seem like Naruto gives the chakra back to Kurama, I prefer the term Given
 

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They're insecure and have absolutely zero faith in their fav. So sad.


You essentially just admitted that Naruto is too fodder to do anything on his own.

That is the only reason you all try to refute the "borrowed power" argument; you all are insecure and know that Naruto, at his core, is weak.

You fail harder than M. Night Shamaylan directing the last Airbender.

How is Naruto weak? Defeated 5 bodies of Pain without byuubi power. Owned Kakuzu without it as well
 

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it's neither it's just a powersource that naruto uses
 

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At least everyone can agree on one thing... Kakashi "borrowed" double MS power from obito. /endthread
 

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This thread backfired hard lol.

As you should know by now when it comes to Sasuke and Naruto the fans will bash rip tear each other a new ******* before agreeing to anything.

You should've just gone with the usual Sasuke>Naruto or Naruto>Sasuke thread because initially thats what it became. Sorry dude :/

I know. Thats just the way it is here now. Idiots lile Vapid and Solo cant let any type of smart conversation happen here. They'll troll and do much worse
 

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At least everyone can agree on one thing... Kakashi "borrowed" double MS power from obito. /endthread

Nope, Obito gave Kakashi the Sharingan again, but this one is more interesting because obito got his eyes back so it is confusing
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They're insecure and have absolutely zero faith in their fav. So sad.


You essentially just admitted that Naruto is too fodder to do anything on his own.

That is the only reason you all try to refute the "borrowed power" argument; you all are insecure and know that Naruto, at his core, is weak.

What a joke.

The 9 tails held Naruto back throughout most the manga because he made it harder for him to control his chakra and power. Naruto was always outnumber because he had to fight against his opponent and the 9 tails.

You are just mad that Sasuke's power comes from the 10 tails like all power in the manga. But unlike Naruto's power he never had to worry about his power killing him or holding him back.
 

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I reuse the borrowed power argument because it makes it seem like Naruto gives the chakra back to Kurama, I prefer the term Given
I guess you don't see that makes him look even more fodder than he already does by himself. At least with "borrowed", he's giving it back.

You fail harder than M. Night Shamaylan directing the last Airbender.

How is Naruto weak? Defeated 5 bodies of Pain without byuubi power. Owned Kakuzu without it as well
Nope. He had to be saved from Kakuzu's thread arms and needed Ma and Pa assistance in those fights respectively.

Naruto has never solo'd and he never will. That's just how it is.

What a joke.

The 9 tails held Naruto back throughout most the manga because he made it harder for him to control his chakra and power. Naruto was always outnumber because he had to fight against his opponent and the 9 tails.

You are just mad that Sasuke's power comes from the 10 tails like all power in the manga. But unlike Naruto's power he never had to worry about his power killing him or holding him back.
MS, bleeding eyes, etc. Fail post.

Cry moar.
 

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I guess you don't see that makes him look even more fodder than he already does by himself. At least with "borrowed", he's giving it back.


Nope. He had to be saved from Kakuzu's thread arms and needed Ma and Pa assistance in those fights respectively.

Naruto has never solo'd and he never will. That's just how it is.

@bold That is ****ing stupid, when some one gives you a gift it doesn't it make you look bad if you keep it and use it
 

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I guess you don't see that makes him look even more fodder than he already does by himself. At least with "borrowed", he's giving it back.


Nope. He had to be saved from Kakuzu's thread arms and needed Ma and Pa assistance in those fights respectively.

Naruto has never solo'd and he never will. That's just how it is.


MS, bleeding eyes, etc. Fail post.

Cry moar.

Soloed pain. Majority of the edo and zetsu army. 3rd raikage. Your mom.

Who did Sasuke ever solo? You never seem to answer that question
 

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Whoa, a lot of low IQs here, I gotta say. You have to have some original qualities to be a Jin, to be actually able to sustain a Bijuu. What is Naruto without Kurama? A powered up version of Jiraiya.
 

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@bold That is ****ing stupid, when some one gives you a gift it doesn't it make you look bad if you keep it and use it
If they give it to you without you always asking for it like a little pansy, yes. That's not the case with Naruto, though.

Whoa, a lot of low IQs here, I gotta say. You have to have some original qualities to be a Jin, to be actually able to sustain a Bijuu. What is Naruto without Kurama? A powered up version of Jiraiya.
In other words, a fodder.

Sasuke without his dojutsu would wreak a biju-less Naruto with med-diff at the most.
 

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I guess you don't see that makes him look even more fodder than he already does by himself. At least with "borrowed", he's giving it back.


Nope. He had to be saved from Kakuzu's thread arms and needed Ma and Pa assistance in those fights respectively.

Naruto has never solo'd and he never will. That's just how it is.


MS, bleeding eyes, etc. Fail post.

Cry moar.

No. This post is Fail. The manga stated (so its fact) that all power and chakra comes from the 10 tails. You are just mad Sasuke power also comes from the 10 tails. Like I said "what a joke".
 

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If they give it to you without you always asking for it like a little pansy, yes. That's not the case with Naruto, though.

If something is forced into your body and it's chakra is forced into yours, you cannot help but use it. This has been going on the entire manga. Not sure why you're trying to troll people.
 
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