[Discussion] Kubo wanking Zaraki too much?

[ssjelf]

I have caught up actually... by recovering I meant that Bykauya isn't fit to fight a sternritter at the moment. Or is he? I hadn't read Bleach in a long time that's why I read through the recent chapters very quickly. But nothing about Byakuya caught my attention since he lost his bankai. Thats what Im trying to say

Well he is all better now and very much stronger. He shattered As nodt fear ability and said he was only using shikai. And he soloed OMQ, nanana, cancdice, and was A-okay with meninas and the other girl there. He probably didn't even use bankai vs them.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Yes I have. I said Byakuya hasn't shown anything after he lost his Bankai. I know he got it back thanks to Mayuri. BTW isn't Byakuya still recovering?

He got back, thanks to Urahara

He easily defeated... maybe you didn't catch up with the manga.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Shunsui killed the strongest Espada with just his Shikai. All other captains had to use their Bankai plus more to defeat the lower Espada.

Shunshui is more powerful in literally every way except for physical strength when it comes to comparing him with Kenpachi. His Zanpaktou was not even letting him fight properly because "she wasn't in the mood" and when she did finally want to play, Stark stood absolutely no chance.

Shunshui does not need to tell Kenpachi the rules of his Shikai games. Irooni ends him as Kenpachi has no idea how to fight against it and one attack is all Shushui needs to kill him.

By feats: Shunsui >> Kenpachi
By Hype/Portrayal: Shunsui >>>> Kenpachi

No kyoraku killed a starrk that had no cero guns or wolves thanks to his sneak attack he clearly was going to force kyoraky to go bankai but ukitake stepped in.

Yama feared zaraki power even he central 46 guy said if zaraki gets stronger he will be unstoppable...zaraki beat one of the strongest Quincy without taking off his eye patch while kyoraku struggled to beat OMQ a opponent Byakuya beat without breaking a sweat while beating 4 other Quincy at the time aswell...zaraki big blade will cut threw anything add that along with his zan jutsu skills which are the best in ss an kyoraku is a gonner cuz most of kyoraku shikai abilities are close range which is not good when fighting current zaraki.

An when was kyoraku said to be the strongest captain???..an his bankai is not forbidden,you seem to be making a lot of things up.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Shunsui killed the strongest Espada with just his Shikai. All other captains had to use their Bankai plus more to defeat the lower Espada.

Shunshui is more powerful in literally every way except for physical strength when it comes to comparing him with Kenpachi. His Zanpaktou was not even letting him fight properly because "she wasn't in the mood" and when she did finally want to play, Stark stood absolutely no chance.

Shunshui does not need to tell Kenpachi the rules of his Shikai games. Irooni ends him as Kenpachi has no idea how to fight against it and one attack is all Shushui needs to kill him.

By feats: Shunsui >> Kenpachi
By Hype/Portrayal: Shunsui >>>> Kenpachi

For a fact, Zaraki is SWP. That alone speak for itself.
Kyoraku's power is already mature, and for him to make in SWP list is very unlikely, considering that there exist strongest mature shinigamis (RG, Urahara, Isshin, probably Byakuya) and some very talented young Shinigamis like Hitsugaya.

That's only counting Shinigamis, so Kyoraky will very likely not be SWP, which prove to us portrayal - Zaraki >>>> Kyoraku.

Feats? When Kyoraku in shikai cut meteor than we can compare their feats for know Zaraki stomps.

 

[Dãrth1]

He is a powerhouse
Byakuya has strategys
He could beat Kenpachi by not going close combat

 

[BusinessManTeno]

You aren't caught up if you haven't seen byakuya reappear with rukia. BTW, you said earlier that shunsui said toshiro would catch up in a thousand years. He actually said 100 years. Toshiro is actually a genius on the same par as gin at least. Not in power yet, but in terms of talent. I believe gin was surprised when toshiro was mentioned as having graduated in x amount of years.

Gin surpasses toshiro by so many levels.. No.. Just no
Gin is a very hax captain too who only died cause he killed aizen once and aizen evolved

Well he is all better now and very much stronger. He shattered As nodt fear ability and said he was only using shikai. And he soloed OMQ, nanana, cancdice, and was A-okay with meninas and the other girl there. He probably didn't even use bankai vs them.

Hmm.. You are forgetting.. Kenpachi soloed 3-4 Sternritters before the second war.. and this is before his intense training and eye patch. Byakuya has shown nothing more then what we already seen.. Except it got stronger I guess. Byakuya gets shitted on so hard.. I hate when people compare the two cause its obvious whos stronger

He is a powerhouse
Byakuya has strategys
He could beat Kenpachi by not going close combat

Strategy?
Naw... cause we seen his reitsu is enough to blow back his petals honestly

 

[ssjelf]

Gin surpasses toshiro by so many levels.. No.. Just no
Gin is a very hax captain too who only died cause he killed aizen once and aizen evolved



Hmm.. You are forgetting.. Kenpachi soloed 3-4 Sternritters before the second war.. and this is before his intense training and eye patch. Byakuya has shown nothing more then what we already seen.. Except it got stronger I guess. Byakuya gets shitted on so hard.. I hate when people compare the two cause its obvious whos stronger



Strategy?
Naw... cause we seen his reitsu is enough to blow back his petals honestly

I hate when people take what others say completely out of context. Toshiro is a genius. Gin even said so. Toshiro just isn't old enough to be better than Gin yet. Kyoraku said Toshiro will surpass him in 100 years and Kyoraku>Gin.

Secondly, I wasn't saying anything about Byakuya vs Kenpachi. I was just telling OP that Byakuya has been back and is fighting sternritters currently. A fact he didn't seem to notice.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Gin surpasses toshiro by so many levels.. No.. Just no
Gin is a very hax captain too who only died cause he killed aizen once and aizen evolved



Hmm.. You are forgetting.. Kenpachi soloed 3-4 Sternritters before the second war.. and this is before his intense training and eye patch. Byakuya has shown nothing more then what we already seen.. Except it got stronger I guess. Byakuya gets shitted on so hard.. I hate when people compare the two cause its obvious whos stronger



Strategy?
Naw... cause we seen his reitsu is enough to blow back his petals honestly

No zaraki soloed only 3 at a time while Byakuya soloed 5 who are shown to be stronger than the ones zaraki soloed an Byakuya did that with out breaking a sweat...lol no it's nt obvious whos stronger cuz they both got a lot stronger.

What you are referring to here is filler not manga he ne'er blew away Byakuya petals in actual manga...an yea like the other guy said bykuya has stratigies an zaraki can't just keep blowing away the petals with reiatsu if he could cuz that would cause him to lose to much energy.

 

[ChrisWolf]

yep man so true

your gay test is wrong because I failed it but I'm not gay, I've just seen enough boobs in my lifetime they don't seem all that special to me.

 

[Ultimateone]

well byakuya just soloed 3 star knights by himself without bankai. one of which shot out shunsui's eye. while kenpachi did beat gremmy, gremmy was intimidated by kenpachi. as for the unohana thing, yea he killed her. but how many times did she almost kill him and revive him before he did so? i think they have both grown immensely. zaraki has the brute force, byakuya has the ability.

 

[sravan]

zaraki is stronger comppared to others but he is still not in the league of aizen,ichigo,yamamoto.yamamoto mentioned shunsui,ukitake to be the strongest fighters passed from his school.yes i believe shunsui can beat current kenpachi & a healthy ukitake can give a high diff competition.Don't take the students of yamamoto so lightly.They are more stronger than they look.

Byakuya is also back and he is much stronger than before but i believe kenny can defeat him.

 

[BlueMeteor]

Agreed. I'm fine with it tho cus Kenny's awesome

 

[Joseph Gomes]

zaraki is stronger comppared to others but he is still not in the league of aizen,ichigo,yamamoto.yamamoto mentioned shunsui,ukitake to be the strongest fighters passed from his school.yes i believe shunsui can beat current kenpachi & a healthy ukitake can give a high diff competition.Don't take the students of yamamoto so lightly.They are more stronger than they look.

Byakuya is also back and he is much stronger than before but i believe kenny can defeat him.

Of course Yama, Aizen, Ichigo are stronger...I'm talking about the rest. Kenny isn't a tier 1 character...