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I just read the past two and a half months worth of chapters as I was busy with University and it was worth it. Man, this chapter was amazing and sent chills down my spine when Cora spoke. Law being a D was not that outrageous as majority of the special, special characters in this series are starting to be revealed as "D" members. One Piece is nicely taking away the depression that came from the HxH anime ending. This was a perfect chapter and the whole Law and Doffy flashback is one of the best in the series. I can't wait for the next chapter.
 

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Will of D!

Not only is Law a D, but clearly Corizan knows something!

OMG! Are we finally gonna get some more details about what all this D buisness is about?! Is Corizan going to tell us?

Also, that Law is a D... doesn't that mean he is now officially a serious contender for the title as Pirate King?

The reason why Whitebeard stated that Blackbeard could never be pirate king, is because Blackbeard was a fake D, not a real one, a fake.

But now we have two genuine D's compeating for the title. Luffy and Law... interesting.. very interesting indeed.
 

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Will of D!

Not only is Law a D, but clearly Corizan knows something!

OMG! Are we finally gonna get some more details about what all this D buisness is about?! Is Corizan going to tell us?

Also, that Law is a D... doesn't that mean he is now officially a serious contender for the title as Pirate King?

The reason why Whitebeard stated that Blackbeard could never be pirate king, is because Blackbeard was a fake D, not a real one, a fake.

But now we have two genuine D's compeating for the title. Luffy and Law... interesting.. very interesting indeed.
BB is a 100% genuine real "D" unless stated otherwise that the faked having "D" in his name. What WB was referring to, was that Roger was waiting for a specific type of people that had a certain 'will'. BB did not conform with that 'will' Roger envisioned, but that doesn't make it so that BB is a fake "D". Since when is Roger's vision the universal acknowledged perspective to say who is a real D and who is not? Rayleigh said it himself, that he and Roger might have found the OP too soon, that they might not have had the 'tools' to apprehend it or something along those lines and that other people might reach a completely different conclusion. It's a complete mystery how exactly everything in relation with the OP will unfold, but I think it's safe to assume it will not be the same as with Roger.

And frankly these revelations have IMO lowered Law's chances of being the Pirate King. Ace also had that dream, but in fact that was just some kind of a shallow facade for his real drive: answering the question whether he should have been born or not. All that stuff about Pirate King and the like wasn't that important and currently Law is following a similar path Ace took. The more I read about Law's history, the less it makes him wanting to become the Pirate King a genuine goal as the two don't really match. Just like with Ace it just seems like a facade to cover up his real intentions, which is very different from Luffy. With Luffy there are no strings attached, there is no deeper meaning behind him wanting to become the Pirate King. Law once made a comment about the Will of D, while Luffy doesn't even care about it at all.

I don't see a genuine competition, with Law there's an entire calculation behind it for a specific purpose, with Luffy it's completely brainless.
 
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I also liked some possible links this chapter made between Doflamingo's past and his words.

His credibility with the statement ¨Kids who know peace and kids who know war have different values¨ has increased, as he himself has seen both.

The beating and lynching he got as a child and the PTSD he suffers from it would mean he knows what he was talking about when he surmised Law was traumatized from his own beating at the hands of Vergo.


BB is a 100% genuine real "D" unless stated otherwise that the faked having "D" in his name. What WB was referring to, was that Roger was waiting for a specific type of people that had a certain 'will'. BB did not conform with that 'will' Roger envisioned, but that doesn't make it so that BB is a fake "D". Since when is Roger's vision the universal acknowledged perspective to say who is a real D and who is not? Rayleigh said it himself, that he and Roger might have found the OP too soon, that they might not have had the 'tools' to apprehend it or something along those lines and that other people might reach a completely different conclusion. It's a complete mystery how exactly everything in relation with the OP will unfold, but I think it's safe to assume it will not be the same as with Roger.

And frankly these revelations have IMO lowered Law's chances of being the Pirate King. Ace also had that dream, but in fact that was just some kind of a shallow facade for his real drive: answering the question whether he should have been born or not. All that stuff about Pirate King and the like wasn't that important and currently Law is following a similar path Ace took. The more I read about Law's history, the less it makes him wanting to become the Pirate King a genuine goal as the two don't really match. Just like with Ace it just seems like a facade to cover up his real intentions, which is very different from Luffy. With Luffy there are no strings attached, there is no deeper meaning behind him wanting to become the Pirate King. Law once made a comment about the Will of D, while Luffy doesn't even care about it at all.

I don't see a genuine competition, with Law there's an entire calculation behind it for a specific purpose, with Luffy it's completely brainless.
I don't think having a specific reason for wanting to be the Pirate King would lessen the level of competition. if anything, having a specific reason for wanting to be PK, having a deep meaning for yourself associated with it would make you all the more determined to become the Pirate King.
 

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I also liked some possible links this chapter made between Doflamingo's past and his words.

His credibility with the statement ¨Kids who know peace and kids who know war have different values¨ has increased, as he himself has seen both.

The beating and lynching he got as a child and the PTSD he suffers from it would mean he knows what he was talking about when he surmised Law was traumatized from his own beating at the hands of Vergo.




I don't think having a specific reason for wanting to be the Pirate King would lessen the level of competition. if anything, having a specific reason for wanting to be PK, having a deep meaning for yourself associated with it would make you all the more determined to become the Pirate King.
That is not what Cali said.

There isn't a deeper meaning behind Law's goal of becoming the Pirate King. What Cali is saying is that Law's ambition is displaced. What he truly wants is still hidden to us, but he is aiming for Pirate King because he most likely doesn't realize it yet, or he does, but believes, wrongfully, that the wait to achieve it is through being Pirate King.
Pirate King is a completely empty title. No one who wants the title wants it for the title. The only ones who are serious contenders are those that want to be a Pirate King because of the journey to become one and, secondly, as Luffy so heartwarmingly put, because the Pirate King is the guy with the most freedom in the entire ocean. Those are the purest of intentions that no one, with the exception of Luffy, has shown. Whatever Law wants, it most likely isn't to become Pirate King, but to free himself from Doflamingo's clutches, both physically and psychologically. Once that happens, MAYBE, just maybe, his entire psyche will change, and then he'll simply want to become Pirate King in order to travel with his crew to the end of the world. But, even so, his will will probably never become as strong as Luffy.

I say that because, with the exception of Luffy, most "D" seem to fall onto alliances with other people or ideals. They usually start out as completely autonomous and brilliant, amazing punks and inspiring idiots, but throughout their live, they start to direct their lives towards something outside of themselves. Jaguar seemed like a brilliant Marine, but then his will and ambition became that of Olivia, and then Robin. Ace wanted to become Pirate King but then quickly fell with White-beard's dream of a family. Garp wanted to become a Marine, that was his dream, and wanted his children to become Marines too. I believe his will was broken by, also my theory, Dragon's defection of the Marines. And Dragon wants to rid the world of the World Government, and I also believe this dream will shift towards someone else's dream, if it was ever his from the start (I think what Dragon is doing now is carrying the dream of Luffy's mother).

And, finally, even Gol D Roger, the freest of all, somehow had his dream and entire goal changed once he reached Raftel, for reasons unknown, a clear shift from himself towards something else.

I think, amongst the "D", there are followers and there's a true King. Every generation, or maybe rarer than that, there are insanely charismatic and powerful D's, but only one king, one, say, Joy Boy. All the followers start to follow for a good and heartfull reason, but follow nonetheless. Of course, see King as something more spiritual than a mere title. Someone that grabs the attention of others and captures their allegiance. And that king, now, is Luffy.

No matter what, I think we'll see Law's dream (And Dragon's) shift towards their "follower" fate.
Blackbeard, of course, is different. If the theory I believe in is right, he descends from the D Family that betrayed the true king, and cause their loss at the end of the Void Century, and that will has become tarnished from the rest of the D's.
 
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That is not what Cali said.

There isn't a deeper meaning behind Law's goal of becoming the Pirate King. What Cali is saying is that Law's ambition is displaced. What he truly wants is still hidden to us, but he is aiming for Pirate King because he most likely doesn't realize it yet, or he does, but believes, wrongfully, that the wait to achieve it is through being Pirate King.
Pirate King is a completely empty title. No one who wants the title wants it for the title. The only ones who are serious contenders are those that want to be a Pirate King because of the journey to become one and, secondly, as Luffy so heartwarmingly put, because the Pirate King is the guy with the most freedom in the entire ocean. Those are the purest of intentions that no one, with the exception of Luffy, has shown. Whatever Law wants, it most likely isn't to become Pirate King, but to free himself from Doflamingo's clutches, both physically and psychologically. Once that happens, MAYBE, just maybe, his entire psyche will change, and then he'll simply want to become Pirate King in order to travel with his crew to the end of the world. But, even so, his will will probably never become as strong as Luffy.

I say that because, with the exception of Luffy, most "D" seem to fall onto alliances with other people or ideals. They usually start out as completely autonomous and brilliant, amazing punks and inspiring idiots, but throughout their live, they start to direct their lives towards something outside of themselves. Jaguar seemed like a brilliant Marine, but then his will and ambition became that of Olivia, and then Robin. Ace wanted to become Pirate King but then quickly fell with White-beard's dream of a family. Garp wanted to become a Marine, that was his dream, and wanted his children to become Marines too. I believe his will was broken by, also my theory, Dragon's defection of the Marines. And Dragon wants to rid the world of the World Government, and I also believe this dream will shift towards someone else's dream, if it was ever his from the start (I think what Dragon is doing now is carrying the dream of Luffy's mother).

And, finally, even Gol D Roger, the freest of all, somehow had his dream and entire goal changed once he reached Raftel, for reasons unknown, a clear shift from himself towards something else.

I think, amongst the "D", there are followers and there's a true King. Every generation, or maybe rarer than that, there are insanely charismatic and powerful D's, but only one king, one, say, Joy Boy. All the followers start to follow for a good and heartfull reason, but follow nonetheless. Of course, see King as something more spiritual than a mere title. Someone that grabs the attention of others and captures their allegiance. And that king, now, is Luffy.

No matter what, I think we'll see Law's dream (And Dragon's) shift towards their "follower" fate.
Blackbeard, of course, is different. If the theory I believe in is right, he descends from the D Family that betrayed the true king, and cause their loss at the end of the Void Century, and that will has become tarnished from the rest of the D's.
Ohh I see, that makes a lot more sense to me. Maybe Law's goal is as simple as spiting the WG. The last thing the WG want is a new PK, and Law is the type of person to get revenge, could be as simple as just getting the ultimate revenge on the WG.
 

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That is not what Cali said.

There isn't a deeper meaning behind Law's goal of becoming the Pirate King. What Cali is saying is that Law's ambition is displaced. What he truly wants is still hidden to us, but he is aiming for Pirate King because he most likely doesn't realize it yet, or he does, but believes, wrongfully, that the wait to achieve it is through being Pirate King.
Pirate King is a completely empty title. No one who wants the title wants it for the title. The only ones who are serious contenders are those that want to be a Pirate King because of the journey to become one and, secondly, as Luffy so heartwarmingly put, because the Pirate King is the guy with the most freedom in the entire ocean. Those are the purest of intentions that no one, with the exception of Luffy, has shown. Whatever Law wants, it most likely isn't to become Pirate King, but to free himself from Doflamingo's clutches, both physically and psychologically. Once that happens, MAYBE, just maybe, his entire psyche will change, and then he'll simply want to become Pirate King in order to travel with his crew to the end of the world. But, even so, his will will probably never become as strong as Luffy.

I say that because, with the exception of Luffy, most "D" seem to fall onto alliances with other people or ideals. They usually start out as completely autonomous and brilliant, amazing punks and inspiring idiots, but throughout their live, they start to direct their lives towards something outside of themselves. Jaguar seemed like a brilliant Marine, but then his will and ambition became that of Olivia, and then Robin. Ace wanted to become Pirate King but then quickly fell with White-beard's dream of a family. Garp wanted to become a Marine, that was his dream, and wanted his children to become Marines too. I believe his will was broken by, also my theory, Dragon's defection of the Marines. And Dragon wants to rid the world of the World Government, and I also believe this dream will shift towards someone else's dream, if it was ever his from the start (I think what Dragon is doing now is carrying the dream of Luffy's mother).

And, finally, even Gol D Roger, the freest of all, somehow had his dream and entire goal changed once he reached Raftel, for reasons unknown, a clear shift from himself towards something else.

I think, amongst the "D", there are followers and there's a true King. Every generation, or maybe rarer than that, there are insanely charismatic and powerful D's, but only one king, one, say, Joy Boy. All the followers start to follow for a good and heartfull reason, but follow nonetheless. Of course, see King as something more spiritual than a mere title. Someone that grabs the attention of others and captures their allegiance. And that king, now, is Luffy.

No matter what, I think we'll see Law's dream (And Dragon's) shift towards their "follower" fate.
Blackbeard, of course, is different. If the theory I believe in is right, he descends from the D Family that betrayed the true king, and cause their loss at the end of the Void Century, and that will has become tarnished from the rest of the D's.
*Roku voice* Exacta!

We just have learned that Law had an extremely traumatic childhood. He saw his family, his friends and his entire hometown die. He escaped barely by hiding amongst corpses and then had to live for 2-3 years with the thought that he guaranteed would die of an incurable disease. Based on what we know it seems that eventually Law would have found some new kind of parental figure in Corazon, but he was then supposedly killed by DD for which Law wants to take revenge. This has been one of the main plotlines in the current arc, so that Law independently of this all has the intention to become the Pirate King just doesn't fit, it's out of place, an anomaly. Even though it's not impossible and it might be explained afterwards, at this point normally you don't write a story like that as then it appears you are being sidetracked.

So the most logical assumption is that the reason(s) as why Law wants to become the Pirate King are closely connected with the events that are now being explained. For instance - and now I'm mainly going to hypothesize - Law gets closer to Corazon, but then for some reason DD kills Corazon, a reason that is connected to what we just read, that D's and Celestial Dragons do not mix. Corazon clearly knows something about this all, which leads to him getting killed and Law defecting from the DD pirates. As a result Law might have started questioning this "D", wanting to know exactly why this D lead to yet another tragedy. He might even learned or suspected that it's connected to the WG and indirectly also to the massacre of his hometown. Consequently he might have figured or learned that the "D" is connected with the OP and the title of Pirate King and hence he wants to become the PK. At one point Law was wondering about the Will of D and this might also explain why he saved Luffy.

With other words his drive to become the PK is just an umbrella/facade/tool or whatever you want to call for another purpose. Finding the OP is for Law finding the truth behind all the tragedies he suffered. This is different for Luffy as Luffy doesn't have an ulterior motive, he doesn't even care whether the OP exists or not, he will strife for it nonetheless.
 

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Am I the only one to notice (or think) that we learnt the story behind Dofy's glasses and his Jolly roger??

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It seems Doflamingo's Left eye was destroyed by them violent people.....
 
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I'm going for Water ... Trafalgar D Water Law (WaterLaw ... Waterloo), Trafalgar D Waterloo Law sounds a bit too much

But Oda's ability to think ahead is, as usually, amazing
I just wanted to point out that Trafalgar Law was created on a whim in chapter 498 and for his name to so neatly tie around the Napoleonic theme is a bit too convenient not to have been planned ahead which means Oda knew most of what happened recently with Law almost 300 chapters ago
 

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I don't know if Law was planned that late. I think there might have been a plan for him, but the whole Supernova as a group was created on a whim. I mean, most of the supernova have ties in the story, like Jewelery Bonny. I think Oda just decided on a whim to make them a thing, to beautify and populate around the key characters that he was going to introduce.
 
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