Yakushi Kabuto vs Uchiha Obito

[Brother Numpsay]

well he was clearly wrong, cuz the closest person to So6P was Obito possessing both Senju and Uchiha chakra plus Rennigan.

You can say he is wrong. Doesnt change the fact that he didn't admitted inferiority to Obito.

 

[ARGUS]

Any and all true Stannis the Mannis fans would say kabuto u_u

Well he is the true king
Not his fatass brother (Robert) nor is his prick *****y nephew (Joffrey)

 

[Unorthodox]

Obito negs Kamui GG

 

[Apêx1]

Kabuto wins.
-Should easily react to Obito's Kamui warp attempts with SM reflexes.
-Chakra rods are counter with partial liquefaction or he simply breaks them like Naruto did.
-Manda 2 spanks Gedo.
-Sound genjutsu can end.
-Obito has only ever shown the outter paths, he has never utilised the Rinnegan's 6 Paths powers.

 

[spade3dg]

Obito loses this one. Kabuto is too versatile. He has counters for everything except Izanami which was a Kishi asspull. Designed specifically for him.

Kabuto will stomp Obito due to his Sage modes enhanced speed and sensing abilities. Not to mention his genjutsu paralyzing Obito.

Chakra blades will pass right through him or be dodged. Since when can sharingan track things underground? Real curious. Not sure ive seen that before

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Chakra blades will pass right through him or be dodged. Since when can sharingan track things underground? Real curious. Not sure ive seen that before

As long as its chakra it can see it.

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[lucario14]

Kabuto wins. Sound genjutsu gg

 

[Draphsin]

So you're claiming Obito can't hear anything when he's intangible? Do I need to show you scans?

You're going to ask to do it & not do it? Smh, if you have scans then post them. Anyways regardless if he can hear it or not the jutsu is much too slow to be activated in time. The genjutsu takes multiple steps to activate, first is the handsign to summon hakon which obito can simply track with his sharingan. [

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] Next is changing hakon to kimi in order to create the flute. [

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] & Lastly kabuto has to switch to tayuya & then play the flute.

Onoki's jinton which only took two panels to activate was easily outsped by kamui. [

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] Obito was able to warp in & out of the jutsu before it could dismantle him & before anybody could tell the difference, plus he was warping with someone which takes longer than usual.

Obito easily teleports away or forces him to give up his attempt, based on feats it would be ridiculous to assume that the genjutsu is fast enough to do anything here.

Except Gedo Mazou doesn't compare to Manda 2. Manda 2 is waaaaay bigger and stronger. What is the Mazou going to do, punch it? Manda 2 durability laughs at chakra rods, they can't pierce his scales. Uchiha kaenjin won't work since the snake can burrow underground like the original Manda and escape...

Gedo mazou shatters mountains multiple times larger than it, [

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] it's the body of the juubi & possesses the chakra of seven bijuu, It's also kept madara alive for over a hundred years due to it's vitality & strong lifeforce, plus it's as large as a bijuu. It's not some fodder summon in comparison, the gedo will serve it's purpose & that will be to keep manda preoccupied with chakra blasts, shockwaves, & significant strength.

@Bold: Well first of all I need some evidence that manda's scales are any more durable than a bijuu's. Unless the sclaes are somehow armored then his hide will be pierced, there's nothing that hypes up manda's durability or defensive capabilities to the point where this may not work.

& Anyways if you are correct & manda's durability laughs at the rods, then kamui laughs at the durability by bypassing it altogether. Obito can warp inside manda's mouth & spam chakra rods down it's throat. Now at this point there's nothing that manda can do, it's out of this fight.

Uchiha kaenjin was never to be used to trap manda please read my posts. But it doesn't matter since chakra rods take care of it, & then there's always genjutsu.

Very wrong. Kabuto liquefies before Obito stabs in the chakra rods, meaning the rods just slip through his water body. Madara stabbed Sakura with a chakra rod, yet she was still able to use jutsu and control her chakra. Obito also has to stab the rods through pressure points, due to Kabuto's reflexes he can dodge.

Lol, show me that kabuto has the reactions in order to liquefy before obito stabs him or absorbs him. Even if the rods go through the water, they're still making contact with kabuto meaning they still bind him. As for sakura why would madara waste precious time & chakra trying to bind down someone who can be stopped just by stabbing them anyways?

Obito doesn't need to stab them in his pressure points, any form of contact with the rods will bind kabuto if obito has the seals chain active. & Using the rods isn't the only thing that obito can do, human path to easily absorb his soul [

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] or kamui to simply warp him away, liquefaction is useless.

a] did you seriously just compare kabuto's sensing and reflexes to Karin's? ...wow.

Lol Now I want you to first prove that there is a difference between how fast sensor ninja can sense. Next prove that those sensory abilities are superior in speed to karin's. As far as the manga shows us there isn't anything indicating that kabuto can somehow sense at a faster speed than karin.

& Yeah kabuto can react faster than karin but where in any of my points did I compare karins reflexes to kabuto's? Reflexes =/= how fast a sensor can pick up on chakra, it's how fast they can react when they do. Until you give me solid evidence that there is a difference between how fast the two can sense something then I have every right to compare them in that category.

b] He is vulnerable in his moment of attack. Minato realized that Obito has to materialize in order to land an attack, so when Obito materializes Kabuto will sense his presence, and very quickly react. He dodges Obito's attack and counterattacks with chakra scalpel very quickly using his reflexes, before Obito reacts and becomes intangible again. Kabuto's reactions >>>> Obito's reactions so there's a very good chance he can land a hit before Obito realizes his attack failed and he must become intangible again.

Dude, even if he's tangible during his moment of attack that doesn't make him vulnerable unless you have an instantaneous jutsu or kamui itself, this has been proven time & time again. There is no distinction between how fast different sensors can sense, so having superior reflexes doesn't mean anything if he senses just as fast as any other sensor.

I can't believe you're comparing JJ madara's reactions to kabuto's, if madara can't grab obito at point blank range then how is kabuto going to do it? By timing when obito becomes tangible? Sorry but that doesn't work, obito has on multiple occasions slipped through attacks that he was unaware of, & in fact that's what the whole fight with kakashi/gai/naruto/bee was about [

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Just because kabuto is a sensor & has great reflexes, doesn't mean he's fast enough to hit obito before he becomes intangible. Only minato with FTG has been able to do so, konan needed prep, & kakashi needed the jutsu itself so kabuto isn't doing it either.

Moot point. Minato had no intel on kamui, he didn't use Sage Mode, and he did escape using FTG. Kabuto's reflexes enable him to dodge Obito.

Minato doesn't need SM to sense, & obito gave him plenty of time to react to the attack by warping quite far away, plus he was warping slower than usual. Minato only escaped because he had an instantaneous jutsu & prep, without those he would have been sent to the dimension. Obito easily warps behind/under/above kabuto & grabs him just as he grabbed minato, & once that happens kabuto can't do a thing.

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Kabuto left with manda, he didn't reverse summon himself. We already know that summons have a limit before they go back so it's logical to assume that he simply cancelled out the jutsu which caused him to leave. [

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[Benjamin King]

Kabuto high diff.

-His sensing in SM and reflexes are fast enough to detect Obito's surprise attacks, which KCM Naruto (who is inferior in sensing and reaction time) could do it perfectly. Any surprise Kamui wrap will be intercepted by Kabuto's Chakra Scalpels, which cuts off Obito who must become physical to wrap someone into blood sheds.

-The Genjutsu is a perfect way to stop Obito from becoming intangible. It shuts off his senses and paralyses him, where Kabuto can do anything he needs to kill him. That can go off from Orochimaru's venom, Chakra Scalpels, Kabuto's bones, etc. Without a support of a powerful Genjutsu user, he has no way to get out. And with his mask on, he can't use his Katon as that will explode on face.

The match is on Kabuto's favour.

 

[Unorthodox]

People saying sm sensing abilities means nothing when Kamui already slipped through Karin a much better sensor especially if we go by feats. Gedo mazo lighting style shreds Manda two just like it did those mountains also occular chains + rods ends Manda Kamui warp gg.

Kabuto high diff.

Get slapped no he doesnt.

-His sensing in SM and reflexes are fast enough to detect Obito's surprise attacks, which KCM Naruto (who is inferior in sensing and reaction time) could do it perfectly. Any surprise Kamui wrap will be intercepted by Kabuto's Chakra Scalpels, which cuts off Obito who must become physical to wrap someone into blood sheds.

Obito uses kamui his body is an another dimension he is nigh impossible to be sensed Karin is an example Naruto only saw him because he warp right above him witch naruto clearly saw him before he completely got out of his warp. Kabuto spike mokuton owns any chakra scalple attack or he pump fakes Kabuto like how he did Danzo's pawns forcing him to go through him like

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then obito turns around and warp him your shoots a chakra rod in his head gg Kabuto.

-The Genjutsu is a perfect way to stop Obito from becoming intangible. It shuts off his senses and paralyses him, where Kabuto can do anything he needs to kill him. That can go off from Orochimaru's venom, Chakra Scalpels, Kabuto's bones, etc. Without a support of a powerful Genjutsu user, he has no way to get out. And with his mask on, he can't use his Katon as that will explode on face.
The match is on Kabuto's favour.

Even if he gets caught with Genjutsu Kabuto still cant do shit we've already seen Sasuke & Itachi cast genjutsu while in a genjutsu Obito simply warps himself or turns intangible. Giant katons would roast Kabuto aswell since his suitons could not compete with a katon at that level.

 

[Benjamin King]

Get slapped no he doesnt.

I didn't know your opinion was a fact.

Obito uses kamui his body is an another dimension he is nigh impossible to be sensed Karin is an example Naruto only saw him because he warp right above him witch naruto clearly saw him before he completely got out of his warp. Kabuto spike mokuton owns any chakra scalple attack or he pump fakes Kabuto like how he did Danzo's pawns forcing him to go through him like This then obito turns around and warp him your shoots a chakra rod in his head gg Kabuto.

Kabuto > Karin in sensing. Naruto didn't see him. [

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] Obito's fodder Mokuton level gets cut by Chakra Scalpel and gets by it himself. Danzo's pawn, Fu, already sensed him coming [

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Even if he gets caught with Genjutsu Kabuto still cant do shit we've already seen Sasuke & Itachi cast genjutsu while in a genjutsu Obito simply warps himself or turns intangible. Giant katons would roast Kabuto aswell since his suitons could not compete with a katon at that level.

Itachi & Sasuke are two people and two stronger Genjutsu users together than Obito. Obito is one person. Implying that Obito will turn intangible or wraps himself, when he's inside the Genjutsu? Hilarious. Obito can't use Katon while wearing a mask.

 

[madvictory]

Obito wins. Kabuto can't touch him.

Obito can't touch Kabuto either.
Anyway, Obito might be untouchable (which is useless in this case since that's not going to kill anybody), but he's still invulnerable to Sound Genjutsu, giving Kabuto at least a temporal win which Obito would never manage to complete.

 

[Unorthodox]

I didn't know your opinion was a fact.

doesnt have to be its much more logical then your shitty arguments i really dont know why im wasting my time here but okei.

Kabuto > Karin in sensing. Naruto didn't see him. [

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] Obito's fodder Mokuton level gets cut by Chakra Scalpel and gets by it himself. Danzo's pawn, Fu, already sensed him coming [

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]. Someone with better sensing and better reflexes will know where Obito is and intercept him.

Going to need proof and Manga scans how Kabuto > Karin and sensing expecially why when his best feats of it is just fighting blind basically. Kakashi warned Naruto in that scan so its irrelevant Mokuton spikes bisects it especially with the half of his body that kabuto is attacked intangible and his Mokuton arm not gg Kabuto. he didnt sense anything coming he simply striked him when he came up how can you sense someone who not their indirectly. he trys to strike obito in that similar fashion chakra rod gg, kamui warp gg, or giant shuriken to cut him to pieces.

Itachi & Sasuke are two people and two stronger Genjutsu users together than Obito. Obito is one person. Implying that Obito will turn intangible or wraps himself, when he's inside the Genjutsu? Hilarious. Obito can't use Katon while wearing a mask.

Itachi maybe Sasuke no Obito has controlled a perfect jinchuriki for a duration of time that trumps all of Sasuke's genjutsu feats alone and you literally took the most useless part of the post to reply to especially when i was using that as an example i was saying since they were able to use genjutsu the could still use their occular abilities such as amaterasu genjutsu etc therefore he can use kamui because its also an occular jutsu to get out of sound genjutsu. Also sound genjutsu doesnt land on someone who's in another dimension or his giant katons counters the genjutsu roasted Kabuto. Also you keep saying this mask bs Obito just take it off.

 

[Benjamin King]

doesnt have to be its much more logical then your shitty arguments i really dont know why im wasting my time here but okei.

If my argument are shitty, then don't bother replying, you'll save the trouble of losing brain cells while arguing with you. It's simple.

Going to need proof and Manga scans how Kabuto > Karin and sensing expecially why when his best feats of it is just fighting blind basically. Kakashi warned Naruto in that scan so its irrelevant Mokuton spikes bisects it especially with the half of his body that kabuto is attacked intangible and his Mokuton arm not gg Kabuto. he didnt sense anything coming he simply striked him when he came up how can you sense someone who not their indirectly. he trys to strike obito in that similar fashion chakra rod gg, kamui warp gg, or giant shuriken to cut him to pieces.

-Can sense body's heat -

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-Can fight blind and relying on sensing alone.

All are superior than any sensing feat of Karin. You said Naruto dodged Obito because he saw him. I posted a scan of Naruto dodging Obito without seeing him and without sensing. Kabuto is a sensor and doesn't need anyone to notify him of Obito's surprise teleports. So, wrapping him will never happen. Obito can't use Mokuton: Spikes without Spiral Zetsu's support. This is his best Mokuton level

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. It does nothing to Kabuto as I have showed.

Itachi maybe Sasuke no Obito has controlled a perfect jinchuriki for a duration of time that trumps all of Sasuke's genjutsu feats alone and you literally took the most useless part of the post to reply to especially when i was using that as an example i was saying since they were able to use genjutsu the could still use their occular abilities such as amaterasu genjutsu etc therefore he can use kamui because its also an occular jutsu to get out of sound genjutsu. Also sound genjutsu doesnt land on someone who's in another dimension or his giant katons counters the genjutsu roasted Kabuto. Also you keep saying this mask bs Obito just take it off.

Read before posting, jackass. I said Itachi and Sasuke together are better than Obito in Genjutsu. Not individually.

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Do you know how Genjutsu works? I'll just let Wiki do it for me:

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are techniques that are employed in the same fashion as ninjutsu, requiring chakra and hand seals. However, the primary difference between the two is that the effects of genjutsu are illusory; instead of attacking the victim's body, like taijutsu or ninjutsu, genjutsu techniques manipulate the flow of chakra in the victim's brain, thus causing a disruption in their senses. According to the Second Mizukage, genjutsu fittingly falls under the broad category of Yin Release.[1]

If Obito tries to teleport, he will teleport in his illusion and not physically, as his brain is effected by the Genjutsu. Thus, all of your nonsense argument automatically becomes invalid. OP has not clarified that Obito took his mask off, so until that's been made, Obito's mask is on; and he doesn't use any Katon while wearing it, because he kills him in process.

 

[Unorthodox]

If my argument are shitty, then don't bother replying, you'll save the trouble of losing brain cells while arguing with you. It's simple.

I said about 98% they are but some stuff you saying here is not all bullshit you should be lucky im blessing you with my attention just know you will never get this satisfaction again so enjoy while you can.

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-Can fight blind and relying on sensing alone.

Irrelevent as Obito will have no body heat for him to sense when he's in the kamui world. Yet Karin can sense your emotion angry, Jittery, overral there sensing is atleast comparable buts its useless because its not if Karin sensing was enhanced she would have been able to sense Obito.

All are superior than any sensing feat of Karin. You said Naruto dodged Obito because he saw him. I posted a scan of Naruto dodging Obito without seeing him and without sensing. Kabuto is a sensor and doesn't need anyone to notify him of Obito's surprise teleports. So, wrapping him will never happen. Obito can't use Mokuton: Spikes without Spiral Zetsu's support. This is his best Mokuton level

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. It does nothing to Kabuto as I have showed.

Yes because Obito's Natural way of fighting is to warp directly above his opponent he walks through things then warps him he will never need to fully warp himself in this fight. Obito has used his Mokuton varients through Juubi his signature

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now who cant used what without zetsu? And if what you said was true it still wouldnt make him the winner Rods would still own Kabuto regarless or giant katon.

Read before posting, jackass. I said Itachi and Sasuke together are better than Obito in Genjutsu. Not individually.

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Do you know how Genjutsu works? I'll just let Wiki do it for me:
If Obito tries to teleport, he will teleport in his illusion and not physically, as his brain is effected by the Genjutsu. Thus, all of your nonsense argument automatically becomes invalid. OP has not clarified that Obito took his mask off, so until that's been made, Obito's mask is on; and he doesn't use any Katon while wearing it, because he kills him in process.

Your the one wrong because i was using that as an example this has nothing to do with how strong or weak the genjutsu is its the fact that they can use Genjutsu a visual technique. Basically if they can use genjutsu they could use Amaterasu thus Obito could use kamui to get out of there or just turn himself intangible either way its not effecting him. How can you teleport into an illusion if its not real to begin with? made no sense as usual his physical body is not in an genjutsu so when he warps himself the genjutsu is done especially since he can see through it with sharingan and all it does it paralyze you or use the pain method bithing the lip or warping one of his tools into his leg. Op dont need to say anything wether Obito has his mask or not he could take it off to further extend his arsenal with his katons.

 

[Benjamin King]

I said about 98% they are but some stuff you saying here is not all bullshit you should be lucky im blessing you with my attention just know you will never get this satisfaction again so enjoy while you can.

Like I care about people's attention, but whatever.

Irrelevent as Obito will have no body heat for him to sense when he's in the kamui world. Yet Karin can sense your emotion angry, Jittery, overral there sensing is atleast comparable buts its useless because its not if Karin sensing was enhanced she would have been able to sense Obito.

What? Every living body has a temperature heat, so he will be sensed by one of Kabuto's number of sensors. We're talking about battle sensing here, even P1 Ino can sense emotion via Chakra. Sensing blind > Karin's arsenal, period.

Yes because Obito's Natural way of fighting is to warp directly above his opponent he walks through things then warps him he will never need to fully warp himself in this fight. Obito has used his Mokuton varients through Juubi his signature Mokuton spikes now who cant used what without zetsu? And if what you said was true it still wouldnt make him the winner Rods would still own Kabuto regarless or giant katon.

You said he will fully wrap himself in this fight. Okay? It's still a fodder level to Kabuto, who has vast acceleration of healing via Karin, the ability to liquefy his body via Suigestsu. Rods won't make him a winner, he doesn't use them on Madara's level, so nothing will do to Kabuto when hit.

Your the one wrong because i was using that as an example this has nothing to do with how strong or weak the genjutsu is its the fact that they can use Genjutsu a visual technique. Basically if they can use genjutsu they could use Amaterasu thus Obito could use kamui to get out of there or just turn himself intangible either way its not effecting him. How can you teleport into an illusion if its not real to begin with? made no sense as usual his physical body is not in an genjutsu so when he warps himself the genjutsu is done especially since he can see through it with sharingan and all it does it paralyze you or use the pain method bithing the lip or warping one of his tools into his leg. Op dont need to say anything wether Obito has his mask or not he could take it off to further extend his arsenal with his katons.

Once again, Genjutsu's is functioning on brain effects. Saying that if Obito is trapped inside the Genjutsu, he can just wrap himself out of it, despite his brain is effected by it? That is what makes no sense. Wrapping his body is a physical effect, as he's distorting space-time which requires a mass. In here, his brain is what's under the effect and not body, so for him to escape, he must break the Genjutsu first, which won't happen as it took the combined effort of Itachi and Sasuke to do that. Nothing implies Obito can do it alone. Yes, he does; otherwise Obito is killing himself if he shoots fire while wearing the mask.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Genjutsu takes Manda 2 out of the fight. Obito controlled the kuubi age 14, a big snake won't hold any trouble for him.

 

[ARGUS]

Obito wins this,

--kabuto lacks anyway whatsoever to even land a hit on him, as obitos intangibility trolls on all of kabutos attacks completely

--His DSM sensing is moot, when he still cant sense a target thats in another dimension, and he has certainly not shown the reflexes to be able to evade the kamui warps especially when their speed is in the same ballpark as FTG

--Mugen Onsa is also not doing much to obito when he doesnt require any movement to turn intangible seeing how

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, obito turns intangible and prevents himself from kabutos attacks completely,

--White Rage has also not shown the time frame to be able to bypass obitos 5min kamui limit, and agaiin, obitos intangibility helps him counter this attack perfectly,

--Manda 2 is also not doing shit, its too slow to land a blow on obito, and the latters genjutsu allows him to control the snake as well,

--Worst case scenario, Obito uses izanagi, and then proceeds to finish kabuto off by warping him through kamui

 

[blazekev90]

Genjutsu takes Manda 2 out of the fight. Obito controlled the kuubi age 14, a big snake won't hold any trouble for him.

Snakes don't need eye contact to sense their opponent. Therefore, he has ways to cover genjutsu.

@Almighty unOrthodox,
Did you say Karin has better sensing feats than Kabuto?!?! Please elaborate lol

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Kabuto doesn't need to sense him while Obito's in another dimension, he'll sense him once he appears. Kabuto has shown reflexes to counter kamui, hell even base Gai demonstrated this. Also, Obito would to worry about AND the snakes surrounding, who have shown precise sensing/reaction abilities

 

[NSUNSR]

Obito wins med diff at most. Gedo Mazo desroys the cave and binds Manda 2 with its chains.