[VS] All Uchiha Showdown:Sasuke VS Madara VS Obito VS Itachi

[VongolaX]

Itachi was a master with 3T Sharingan the rest were ehhh until they got Mangekyou

Itachi or Madara I cant tell assuming that Obito is young w/o senju cells to OP his chakra reserves

Sasuke just gets fukked

Well 3 tomoe Sasuke has Hebi powers...

Also 3 tomoe Obito also had senju cells too, in parts of the flashbacks in the chapter rehabilitation he was training with Spiral zetsu and white zetsu for like half of scan.

He awakened kamui when he saw Rin get killed.

Madara just has experience and a gunbai fan that f*cks you up.

Itachi's the weakest link here

 

[Draphsin]

Does this version of madara have senju dna? If not then obito is the only one here who can produce large scale katons which would overwhelm the others.

It comes down to obito vs madara, madara has the speed advantage & obito has the strength. Madara probably wins though due to experience & his speed is quite tremendous.

 

[Benjamin King]

Madara is canonically faster than all of 3 can put together. [

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] Blitzed through SM Naruto, who kept up with the likes of Juubito. His physical strength demolished the God Gates that restrained the Juubi. [

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] His Katon are on Juubi's size, as well as the gunbai to use in CQC.

Madara wins.​

 

[Zee U]

Either Sasuke or Madara, with the first having an edge due to Kuchiyose.

 

[KidGamer65]

Does this version of madara have senju dna? If not then obito is the only one here who can produce large scale katons which would overwhelm the others.

Where is this coming from? Where was it shown, implied or stated that Madara needed Hashirama's DNA to produce large scale Katon?

 

[DrProof]

Obviously Itachi..

 

[ARGUS]

Itachi solos them all together neg diff

 

[synkross]

-Obito wins easy, senju DNA, super strength,super healing, good speed. Extremely resilient, can take a lot of dmg and still get back up plus he uses pain rods and mokuton. Too much for other 3T Uchihas to handle.
-3T Madara has no feats
-3T Sasuke( with curse mark) can put a good fight. Still Senju DNA > curse mark
-3T Itachi won't be doing anything, without MS, he has no powerful genjutsu and his stamina is shit so he will be the 1st one to die.

 

[ogunkoa]

That's it!. I've had enough of all dis shit talk...
All aforementioned uchihas with 3Ts ONLY...no hashi no summons... it all boils down 2 skill and speed (ref. 2 madara vs shinobi aliance) ..Madara wins dem all 2nd 2 itachi and then any of sasuke or obito

 

[VongolaX]

That's it!. I've had enough of all dis shit talk...
All aforementioned uchihas with 3Ts ONLY...no hashi no summons... it all boils down 2 skill and speed (ref. 2 madara vs shinobi aliance) ..Madara wins dem all 2nd 2 itachi and then any of sasuke or obito

You couldn't be so wrong

 

[Draphsin]

Where is this coming from? Where was it shown, implied or stated that Madara needed Hashirama's DNA to produce large scale Katon?

It was implied when an ordinary uchiha, no different than sasuke & itachi in skill, was able to produce a katon just as large as madara in size, let me explain.

First of all we know that senju dna increases chakra reserves. Secondly we know that the more chakra you put into your jutsu, the larger it becomes. & Finally we know that madara & obito both possess senju dna, & both created the largest katon we've seen yet, but they're both equal in size.

I believe that there's enough here to convince me that senju dna likely played a role in increasing their katon sizes, especially since neither of them or any other uchiha for that matter have produced katon remotely close to that size without it. & Madara may have large reserves, but to think he can create a katon jutsu just as large as the juubi based solely on his own reserves is less likely.

 

[KidGamer65]

It was implied when an ordinary uchiha, no different than sasuke & itachi in skill, was able to produce a katon just as large as madara in size, let me explain.

First of all we know that senju dna increases chakra reserves. Secondly we know that the more chakra you put into your jutsu, the larger it becomes. & Finally we know that madara & obito both possess senju dna, & both created the largest katon we've seen yet, but they're both equal in size.

I believe that there's enough here to convince me that senju dna likely played a role in increasing their katon sizes, especially since neither of them or any other uchiha for that matter have produced katon remotely close to that size without it. & Madara may have large reserves, but to think he can create a katon jutsu just as large as the juubi based solely on his own reserves is less likely.

The sheer fact that Madara was stated to have massive chakra is enough to render your explanation moot. It'd work if I was claiming Obito needed Senju DNA to use his Juubi sized Katon, but not someone who was already stated to have massive amounts of chakra. Perfect Susanoo is larger than his Katon, and it takes more chakra, yet Madara can use that and control Kurama at the same time, why would using Katon of that scale be any issue at all?

Sasuke and Itachi not using Katon that large means nothing since:

1. They need to know the actual jutsu first.

2. They don't have nearly as much chakra as Madara does.

I'm even confident Obito would be able to use Katon on that scale even without Senju DNA.

 

[Draphsin]

The sheer fact that Madara was stated to have massive chakra is enough to render your explanation moot.

No it's not moot, massive chakra =/= juubi sized jutsus.

It'd work if I was claiming Obito needed Senju DNA to use his Juubi sized Katon, but not someone who was already stated to have massive amounts of chakra.

Then according to that logic madara's katon should have been much larger than obito's with the addition of his senju dna, yet they're both exactly the same size, are you saying that it's a coincidence just because madara was stated to have "massive" chakra? [pretty vague description imo].

Perfect Susanoo is larger than his Katon, and it takes more chakra, yet Madara can use that and control Kurama at the same time, why would using Katon of that scale be any issue at all?

PS isn't larger than his katon, the katon was literally juubi-sized. [

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But you may have a point regarding PS taking up more chakra.

Sasuke and Itachi not using Katon that large means nothing since:

1. They need to know the actual jutsu first.

2. They don't have nearly as much chakra as Madara does.

I'm even confident Obito would be able to use Katon on that scale even without Senju DNA.

They'e just there to help support my argument, by comparing them to a regular obito who should be no different in terms of chakra capacity.

1. They may need to know a specific jutsu, but both madara & obito have different jutsus of that scale. & If you have the chakra to put into it then I don't see why any katon can't grow in size, obito did that with his.

2. Yeah but that's what I'm getting at, obito should logically be in this same situation.

But there's nothing that tells us that obito's chakra reserves were any better than the uchiha bros prior to obtaining the dna.

 

[KidGamer65]

Then according to that logic madara's katon should have been much larger than obito's with the addition of his senju dna, yet they're both exactly the same size, are you saying that it's a coincidence just because madara was stated to have "massive" chakra? [pretty vague description imo].

Senju DNA doesn't increase the size of every single jutsu. Madara's Susanoo isn't any larger than it was in life. Its that large because:

1. They have the chakra necessary to perform it.

2. They know the jutsu.

A fireball jutsu isn't going to increase in size no matter how much chakra you have. Sasuke used Katon this past chapter, same size as it's always been despite him having reserves equal to over half of Hagoromo's total reserves.

PS isn't larger than his katon, the katon was literally juubi-sized. [

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PS is as large as the Juubi's body, minus the tails. Just like Madara's Katon.

-PS and Mokujin compared the the area where the Juubi was at.

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-Juubi in the space.

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Ignore the tails and look at the main body, its not that much larger than PS if its even noticeably larger at all.

They'e just there to help support my argument, by comparing them to a regular obito who should be no different in terms of chakra capacity.

1. They may need to know a specific jutsu, but both madara & obito have different jutsus of that scale. & If you have the chakra to put into it then I don't see why any katon can't grow in size, obito did that with his.

Because that isn't how it works. Sasuke's Katon is still the same size as it was before getting half of Hagoromo's chakra. More chakra doesn't automatically equal bigger jutsu. Obito made his Katon smaller when he used it against Gai and Kakashi. He spread it out with Kamui as well. He didn't make it larger, what he showed was the max size, and he can't make larger, only smaller as we've seen..

If it was even smaller.

Different jutsu of the same scale only means that both jutsu operate at the same scale.

2. Yeah but that's what I'm getting at, obito should logically be in this same situation.

But there's nothing that tells us that obito's chakra reserves were any better than the uchiha bros prior to obtaining the dna.

We don't know what his chakra would be like. We all know chakra increases as you get older, but we never saw an adult Obito before he got Senju DNA.