Full Kyuubi > Incomplete Juubi (Obito's)

[Apêx1]

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I don't have a reason to believe they're not.

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[Benjamin King]

Seriously? Seriously man?

Coming from an idiot who takes unreliable sources without a second of doubting.

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Where does it say/show Kurama has more Chakra than its siblings?

3 things make up Rikudou's Chakra: Indra's, Ashura's, Kurama's.

 

[Apêx1]

Seriously? Seriously man?

Half Kurama, aka what was inside Naruto = Hachibi
So lol?

My point is, based on what? Don't tell me someone said this before, either give viable proof or stop debating something which was never implied or stated.

 

[Tennis Robot]

What the ****amoly?!

 

[Dãrth1]

Coming from an idiot who takes unreliable sources without a second of doubting.



Where does it say/show Kurama has more Chakra than its siblings?

3 things make up Rikudou's Chakra; Indra's, Ashura's, Kurama's.

Ok, now you're the idiot here
Half Kurama's chakra matches Nibi + Sanbi + Gobi + Rokubi + Shichibi
And you say they're equal

 

[Benjamin King]

Ok, now you're the idiot here
Half Kurama's chakra matches Nibi + Sanbi + Gobi + Rokubi + Shichibi
And you say they're equal

Your information is from fan-fiction made up and not from Kishi. Try harder, son.

 

[Apêx1]

Ok, now you're the idiot here
Half Kurama's chakra matches Nibi + Sanbi + Gobi + Rokubi + Shichibi
And you say they're equal

Incorrect, it's far greater. Naruto didn't want to kill them, and it is supported by the fact he only wanted to create an equilibrium between the two attacks. More so, Naruto started much later, yet created his TBB to equate their full TBB's size at the same time, further implying Naruto could create one far bigger than that.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

You guys can't measure the bijuu's chakra, its only been confirmed that they're by the tail Jeamount (according to kurama)

Nothing else have been showed that can calculate the bijuu's chakra, so there's no need to argue about something that literally no one knows.

 

[Dãrth1]

Your information is from fan-fiction made up and not from Kishi. Try harder, son.

You don't know what is logic do you?

 

[Dãrth1]

Incorrect, it's far greater. Naruto didn't want to kill them, and it is supported by the fact he only wanted to create an equilibrium between the two attacks. More so, Naruto started much later, yet created his TBB to equate their full TBB's size at the same time, further implying Naruto could create one far bigger than that.

Bijuus can't be killed anyway
Exactly, the amount of chakra they would have is < 25% which was Kurama's current chakra level

 

[Sennin of Logic]

This is why I believe the 50% Kurama belief is invalid. Bijuu are easily able to regenerate so there's no reason why either part of the Kyuubi would still be 50%

If 10% of each Bijuu can eventually create a 100% Juubi, I'm sure the Kyuubi can regenerate itself after 17 years.

As much as I'd like that to be true as a Naruto fan, it's not. Bijus don't really regenerate completely in some cases. The 8 tails had one of his horns busted, they haven't gone back to their original state.


On top of this, Naruto's Kurama avatar is significantly smaller than full Kurama. They can produce more chakra, but for some reason, they can't reclaim chakra that has been separated from them. Whether or not it only effects stamina, or power as well is debatable though.

 

[Benjamin King]

You don't know what is logic do you?

What logic indicates Kurama's Chakra makes up all of the Bijuu? Actually, if this is the case, Madara or Obito wouldn't need Juubi's reserves if there is something comparable to it to use for IT.

 

[Epix Itachi]

Really if you look at it logically.....only 50% Jubbi period .....remember....the othee half was sealed inside Hamura...so theory irrelevant

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Really if you look at it logically.....only 50% Jubbi period .....remember....the othee half was sealed inside Hamura...so theory irrelevant

No it wasn't, they sealed the chakra into hagoromo and sealed the mazo into the moon.

The gedo mazo = juubi without chakra
Hagoromo obtained that chakra and sealed the mazo along with hamura.

Just read the manga.

 

[Dãrth1]

What logic indicates Kurama's Chakra makes up all of the Bijuu? Actually, if this is the case, Madara or Obito wouldn't need Juubi's reserves if there is something comparable to it to use for IT.

Because Obito and Madara said that needed at least a little amount of chakra of EACH BIJUU?

 

[Benjamin King]

Because Obito and Madara said that needed at least a little amount of chakra of EACH BIJUU?

Nope. They needed the Juubi's Chakra, because it can be used on a global scale. Unless you say Kurama's Chakra is enough to make a Genjutsu used on a planet level?

 

[Dãrth1]

Nope. They needed the Juubi's Chakra, because it can be used on a global scale. Unless you say Kurama's Chakra is enough to make a Genjutsu used on a planet level?

Yes it is

 

[Apêx1]

Coming from an idiot who takes unreliable sources without a second of doubting.



Where does it say/show Kurama has more Chakra than its siblings?

3 things make up Rikudou's Chakra: Indra's, Ashura's, Kurama's.

Well he created a TBB far larger than the greatest TBB Obito could create with a single Bijuu, and it started much later. Bee, with 7 tails of v1 cloak, was reverted back to 1 tail. Samehada could only absorb 6 tails worth of chakra [

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]. This means any Bijuu that cannot manifest 7 tails will be reverted abck to base every time by samehada This implies the amount of tails manifested is directly linked with the amount of chakra outputted by Bee. The more tails you create, the closer you get to your BM, as shown when Naruto's v2 had reached 8 tails, and started taking on Kurama like characteristics, whereas other Bijuu can only create one tail less than its maximum amount of tails in its v1/v2 state. My example before also stands, Kurama can create TBB's far larger than any other Bijuu, this suggests he has more chakra he can throw around thus can create larger TBB's at quicker speeds.

Yes, but Rikudo's half of chakra comes from Kaguya being his mother, who only had powerful chakra after eating the fruit, which allowed her to become one with the Shinju aka the Juubi. So technically, Rikudo's chakra is only special because his mother, who in other words was one with the Shinju, gave birth to him, thus he manifested a chakra that was half his mothers (Ashura and Indra's) and the Kyuubi (part of the Shinju) whereas Hamura had the power of his two sons (Hyuuga and Uzumaki probably) and the rest of the tailed Beasts which probably equated to the 9 tails when combined.

 

[Vicmann]

So, when Obito became the Juubi jinchuuriki, the Juubi was missing 90% of Hachibis and Kyuubis chakra, which Kyuubis is 50% of the original juubis, Hachibi 25%, so the Juubi that Obito became Jinchuuriki was weaker than full Kurama
Just saiyan

What math did you use to assume that?

 

[Benjamin King]

1). First, your TBB argument. Obito stated after the revival of the Juubi, he doesn't want to use too much Chakra. [

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] This is obvious because the less Chakra Juubi has, the weaker it is and the more bad effect on the IT. Second, your tail argument is fallacious. The tails do not even equate the Chakra or Bijuu's power. By that logic, V2 Jinchuuriki could not have stomped on KCM Naruto and BM Hachibi, if that was the case. Third, when Kurama had almost no Chakra and needed to create Chakra from its own flesh (hence why it got smaller in size), it managed to create the same sized TBB in the war:

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Unless you're saying that Kurama still has more Chakra than other Bijuu, when it practically had none? The size of TBB isn't even relevant. This small

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had more output than a massive TBB. Once again, the number of tail or TBB is not what puts a Bijuu above the other, it's the logic that they are 10% split of the Juubi. Otherwise, the Chakra they gave to Naruto would have possible been equal in amount of power. [

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The Bijuu combined equals the Kyuubi? Joke of the year. The Chakra they gave to Naruto managed to have their own very soul, whereas Kinkaku and Ginkaku had been feeding on Kurama's Chakra for 2 weeks, didn't have its soul.