[Discussion] Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji vs Law, X Drake, and Apoo

[Uzumaki Macho]

Who do you think wins?
Imo Team 1 wins high diff
Luffy vs Law- Luffy high-extreme diff
Zoro vs X Drake- X Drake extreme diff
Sanji vs Apoo- Sanji high diff.
So Luffy and Sanji easily gang up and finish off X Drake. Not to mention that the M3 would probably have better teamwork.

 

[Lord Tywin]

The same x drake that was low diffed by a pacifista? A beat up zoro was able to cut the real kuma. Zoro> drake

 

[Xēnovia.]

I'm leaning towards team two for now. ​

 

[Punk Hazard]

Who do you think wins?
Imo Team 1 wins high diff
Luffy vs Law- Luffy high-extreme diff
Zoro vs X Drake- X Drake extreme diff
Sanji vs Apoo- Sanji high diff.
So Luffy and Sanji easily gang up and finish off X Drake. Not to mention that the M3 would probably have better teamwork.

well let's see.

Scenario 1:
Luffy vs Law-Law wins

Zoro vs X Drake-I say they knock each other out. While Zoro couldn't even launch a Pacifista back(Don't bring up that Franky shit, that only happened because Franky could put all of his energy at once into one attack, if Zoro could do the same, he would have done even more damage than Franky did), while X Drake could have launched a Pacifista back. Assuming X Drake had similar levels of growth that Zoro did, I'd say they knock each other out due to Zoro having superior stamina and durability, while X Drake has superior strength. Not to mention his Zoan is extremely powerful.

Sanji vs Apoo, Sanji wins. It would become a fight between Sanji and Law, and Law, even while weakened, would beat Sanji, who would also be weakened by Apoo. Apoo could blow an Admiral in half(though it's possible maybe Kizaru just transformed reflexively).

Team 2 wins Scenario 1.

Scenario 2:
Luffy vs Apoo-Luffy mid diff.

Law vs Zoro- Law mid diff
Sanji vs X Drake- X drake mid diff. It'd then become X Drake and Law vs Luffy, which results in another win for team 2.

Scenario 3
Zoro vs Apoo-Zoro mid diff
Luffy vs X Drake- Luffy high diff
Law vs Sanji-Law mid diff.
This is a tougher one for me. I wanna say Law could switch their personalities, resulting in Luffy being forced to use swords which he sucks at, and Zoro struggling to use Luffy's DF. I don't know HOW likely this scenario is at happening, but if Law can pull it off, he wins low diff actually. It'll become one of "The stronger side doesn't always win" scenarios where Law's tactical mind and ability could overcome superior brute force. I'd give this scenario to Law EXTREMELY high diff, but it could very easily go either way.

Team 2 wins.

 

[Ero sennin jiraiya]

The same x drake that was low diffed by a pacifista? A beat up zoro was able to cut the real kuma. Zoro> drake

Wasn't that pre timeskip? You're assuming drake hasn't improved at all which is doubtful.

I think team 2 would win this. Law is the biggest factor here IMO as I don't believe Luffy could beat him 1v1. His devil fruit power is too OP. Also I think you guys may me underestimating scratchman. He doesn't have a lot of feats so we don't really know everything he is capable of.

This fight is 1 captain and 2 crew mates vs 3 captains.....

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Wasn't that pre timeskip? You're assuming drake hasn't improved at all which is doubtful.

I think team 2 would win this. Law is the biggest factor here IMO as I don't believe Luffy could beat him 1v1. His devil fruit power is too OP. Also I think you guys may me underestimating scratchman. He doesn't have a lot of feats so we don't really know everything he is capable of.

This fight is 1 captain and 2 crew mates vs 3 captains.....

Using that logic then Kuro>Prime Rayleigh since Kuro is a captain.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

well let's see.

Scenario 1:
Luffy vs Law-Law wins

Zoro vs X Drake-I say they knock each other out. While Zoro couldn't even launch a Pacifista back(Don't bring up that Franky shit, that only happened because Franky could put all of his energy at once into one attack, if Zoro could do the same, he would have done even more damage than Franky did), while X Drake could have launched a Pacifista back. Assuming X Drake had similar levels of growth that Zoro did, I'd say they knock each other out due to Zoro having superior stamina and durability, while X Drake has superior strength. Not to mention his Zoan is extremely powerful.

Sanji vs Apoo, Sanji wins. It would become a fight between Sanji and Law, and Law, even while weakened, would beat Sanji, who would also be weakened by Apoo. Apoo could blow an Admiral in half(though it's possible maybe Kizaru just transformed reflexively).

Team 2 wins Scenario 1.

Scenario 2:
Luffy vs Apoo-Luffy mid diff.

Law vs Zoro- Law mid diff
Sanji vs X Drake- X drake mid diff. It'd then become X Drake and Law vs Luffy, which results in another win for team 2.

Scenario 3
Zoro vs Apoo-Zoro mid diff
Luffy vs X Drake- Luffy high diff
Law vs Sanji-Law mid diff.
This is a tougher one for me. I wanna say Law could switch their personalities, resulting in Luffy being forced to use swords which he sucks at, and Zoro struggling to use Luffy's DF. I don't know HOW likely this scenario is at happening, but if Law can pull it off, he wins low diff actually. It'll become one of "The stronger side doesn't always win" scenarios where Law's tactical mind and ability could overcome superior brute force. I'd give this scenario to Law EXTREMELY high diff, but it could very easily go either way.

Team 2 wins.

I doubt that Law is fast enough to catch both Luffy and Zoro in his personality switching attack.

 

[Bogard]

Luffy vs Law- Law extreme diff, maybe even lower depending on Luffy's mindset
Zoro vs X Drake- X Drake high-extreme diff. I rate him to be on Luffy's level if not above
Sanji vs Apoo- Apoo mid-high diff. He should be around Kidd level(though weaker obviously)

 

[Punk Hazard]

I doubt that Law is fast enough to catch both Luffy and Zoro in his personality switching attack.

It doesn't really seem to take that much. His speed is pretty great, and he was able to switch Smoker and Tashigi in less than a second. There's no doubt in my mind he can pull it off, but the question is, how much more often than not is the likelihood, and seeing as we haven't seen Law use it during battle, we can't get that likelihood. Based on overall usage, it'd definitely work, but battle conditions could be very different.

 

[NarutoBmx33]

well let's see.

Scenario 1:
Luffy vs Law-Law wins

Zoro vs X Drake-I say they knock each other out. While Zoro couldn't even launch a Pacifista back(Don't bring up that Franky shit, that only happened because Franky could put all of his energy at once into one attack, if Zoro could do the same, he would have done even more damage than Franky did), while X Drake could have launched a Pacifista back. Assuming X Drake had similar levels of growth that Zoro did, I'd say they knock each other out due to Zoro having superior stamina and durability, while X Drake has superior strength. Not to mention his Zoan is extremely powerful.

Sanji vs Apoo, Sanji wins. It would become a fight between Sanji and Law, and Law, even while weakened, would beat Sanji, who would also be weakened by Apoo. Apoo could blow an Admiral in half(though it's possible maybe Kizaru just transformed reflexively).

Team 2 wins Scenario 1.

Scenario 2:
Luffy vs Apoo-Luffy mid diff.

Law vs Zoro- Law mid diff
Sanji vs X Drake- X drake mid diff. It'd then become X Drake and Law vs Luffy, which results in another win for team 2.

Scenario 3
Zoro vs Apoo-Zoro mid diff
Luffy vs X Drake- Luffy high diff
Law vs Sanji-Law mid diff.
This is a tougher one for me. I wanna say Law could switch their personalities, resulting in Luffy being forced to use swords which he sucks at, and Zoro struggling to use Luffy's DF. I don't know HOW likely this scenario is at happening, but if Law can pull it off, he wins low diff actually. It'll become one of "The stronger side doesn't always win" scenarios where Law's tactical mind and ability could overcome superior brute force. I'd give this scenario to Law EXTREMELY high diff, but it could very easily go either way.

Team 2 wins.

And how exactly is Drake's devilfruit all that powerful? Hes a dino, luffy would wreck him, and Zoro would mid-high diff him.

 

[Love Cook]

The same x drake that was low diffed by a pacifista? A beat up zoro was able to cut the real kuma. Zoro> drake

No. let me correct that for you.

The same X-Drake who sent a pacifista flying through a wall with a kick and almost wrecked it if he didn't get shot by the laser. It thook 9 Strawhats to beat 1 pacifista and the combined M3 attack didn't sent the Pacifista flying.

Also, Zoro cut shit, he shredded Kuma's clothing but the Wapolmetal was intact with a small dent in his shoulder piece.

So a random flying kick of X-Drake was more damaging than Zoro's strongest attack shishi sonson.

X-Drake should not be underestimated.

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Also the M3 has a habbit of screwing around in fights and exploring what the enemy can do. They can't do that against Law and Apoo they will cut them up in seconds.

Law can literally end the fight in 10 seconds if he rooms them all and chops them up hiding behind drake and apoo.

 

[Punk Hazard]

And how exactly is Drake's devilfruit all that powerful? Hes a dino, luffy would wreck him, and Zoro would mid-high diff him.

Educate yourself on how strong a Tyrannosaurus Rex is, then add that into the already hyperhuman body of One Piece characters.

 

[VongolaX]

Strawhats win with the highest of difficulties.

Luffy beats law, no need for that explanation because Law is depending on the strength and recklessness of the strawhats to take out Doffy.

Zoro's strength is nearly unmeasurable, the guy tosses around Zoans like it's his job.

Now X Drake kicked a PX down, good for him Sanji can do the same sh*t.

But Zoro was able to keep up with Kuma a bit in thriller park, something we know Drake will fall short of...

1) Zoro dodged the lasers and pads at the speed of light , while Drake couldn't.

2) Zoro is the only guy in the manga to actually hurt Kuma, Drake has no feat of that at all.

3) Zoro butchered a flying Dragon....

Drake is an overgrown lizard


Sanji and Apoo is a complicated one and I feel that it can go either way but Apoo more times than not.

^^Have no explanation, just a gut feeling.

 

[xanonymosx]

Strawhats win with the highest of difficulties.

Luffy beats law, no need for that explanation because Law is depending on the strength and recklessness of the strawhats to take out Doffy.

Zoro's strength is nearly unmeasurable, the guy tosses around Zoans like it's his job.

Now X Drake kicked a PX down, good for him Sanji can do the same sh*t.

But Zoro was able to keep up with Kuma a bit in thriller park, something we know Drake will fall short of...

1) Zoro dodged the lasers and pads at the speed of light , while Drake couldn't.

2) Zoro is the only guy in the manga to actually hurt Kuma, Drake has no feat of that at all.

3) Zoro butchered a flying Dragon....

Drake is an overgrown lizard


Sanji and Apoo is a complicated one and I feel that it can go either way but Apoo more times than not.

^^Have no explanation, just a gut feeling.

lmao XD
i see people still think drake > zoro cause he kicked a pacificta btw drake`s kick didnt hurt the pacificta at all and franky did the same so this is nonsense

 

[Punk Hazard]

lmao XD
i see people still think drake > zoro cause he kicked a pacificta btw drake`s kick didnt hurt the pacificta at all and franky did the same so this is nonsense

Franky was able to knock down the Pacifista because his mechanisms allow him to output all of his energy at once. If Zoro and X Drake could do that, they'd have done a lot worse.

Drake and Zoro have compatible physiologies, Franky doesn't have a physiology comparable to either, so he's a non-factor in this comparison.

 

[VongolaX]

lmao XD
i see people still think drake > zoro cause he kicked a pacificta btw drake`s kick didnt hurt the pacificta at all and franky did the same so this is nonsense

What?

I said Zoro>Drake

 

[Love Cook]

lmao XD
i see people still think drake > zoro cause he kicked a pacificta btw drake`s kick didnt hurt the pacificta at all and franky did the same so this is nonsense

What you're not getting is that Drake did this pre-skip when all the other supernova's were fukking around with Pacifista. And now you're assuming for the sake of your argument that Drake didn't grow over the course of the timeskip.

Why does he go from the top of the supernova ranking somewhere to the middle according to you ? The kick might not taken the Pacifista out but none of the others were able to push it around like that.

You're comparing post skip SH's to pre-skip Drake and Apoo. Drake very well might be a Rokushiki using hakified partial T-Rex with a 4 sided mace now, but you don't even take that in account.

 

[xanonymosx]

What you're not getting is that Drake did this pre-skip when all the other supernova's were fukking around with Pacifista. And now you're assuming for the sake of your argument that Drake didn't grow over the course of the timeskip.

Why does he go from the top of the supernova ranking somewhere to the middle according to you ? The kick might not taken the Pacifista out but none of the others were able to push it around like that.

You're comparing post skip SH's to pre-skip Drake and Apoo. Drake very well might be a Rokushiki using hakified partial T-Rex with a 4 sided mace now, but you don't even take that in account.

i am not comparing post ts to pre ts and i took that in account , i didnt say zoro will beat drake cause i dont know pts darke`s feats but you cant say drak > zoro cause you dont know darkes pts feats too

What?

I said Zoro>Drake

i know man =D

Franky was able to knock down the Pacifista because his mechanisms allow him to output all of his energy at once. If Zoro and X Drake could do that, they'd have done a lot worse.

Drake and Zoro have compatible physiologies, Franky doesn't have a physiology comparable to either, so he's a non-factor in this comparison.

it dsnt matter whether franky did it using his mechanisms or not cause zoro pre ts > franky pre ts , franky did the same thing drake did and zoro > franky so zoro > darke but that is wrong
it`s just about strenght here and drake`s strenght > zoro`s strenght is debatable but that dsnt mean overall drake > overall zoro cause in an actual fight there is other factors like speed , reaction ..etc

 

[Punk Hazard]

i am not comparing post ts to pre ts and i took that in account , i didnt say zoro will beat drake cause i dont know pts darke`s feats but you cant say drak > zoro cause you dont know darkes pts feats too

i know man =D



it dsnt matter whether franky did it using his mechanisms or not cause zoro pre ts > franky pre ts , franky did the same thing drake did and zoro > franky so zoro > darke but that is wrong
it`s just about strenght here and drake`s strenght > zoro`s strenght is debatable but that dsnt mean overall drake > overall zoro cause in an actual fight there is other factors like speed , reaction ..etc

You don''t understand. it does matter that Franky was using his mechanisms. Basically, Franky blew back the Pacifista because his mechanisms allowed him to put 100% of energy all at once into his attack.

However, X Drake and Zoro can't put 100% of their energy into one attack. Let's say both of them, being of similar stature and build, can put in about 5% of their energy in one blow at a time. That would mean that using 5% of his energy, X Drake knocked back a Pacifista, doing what it took Franky 100% of his energy to do. Zoro, while also striking the Pacifista at 5% of his energy, was unable to knock back the Pacifista. This puts him below Drake, but he can still be>Franky because if Franky putting in 100% knocks him back 5 meters, then Zoro's 100% could knock him back 25 meters.

These numbers aren't accurate or solid or anything, aside form the 100%, they're just there to illustrate the point. Hopefully I phrased that right enough to get across my meaning.

 

[A v i]

SHs would loose this battle.