They didn't even fight, I'm looking for the end results compared to the strawhats
Baseless is when someone post that they didn't co operate well together to fight a person they thought was Bartholomew Kuma.
My second part was on your pitiful Whitebeard Akainu analogy.
You should read it before making this mistake^^
Obviously they didn't escape if a Kuma showed up against the strawhats in like a chapter later.
Even the government received news that the strawhats "escaped," Kuma from Thriller park after Moria's defeat.
So try again.
First you said I ¨must not have seen the fight¨, implying that there was fight between the Pacifista and Heart and Kidd Pirates that showed them struggling far more than the Strawhats, hence why they're below them. Now, you're saying it's not about the fight, but the end result. You've contradicted yourself. That's strike one.
Also, you're looking for an end result, when we weren't presented with one. We didn't see whether or not Law and Kidd defeated the Pacifista. Them:
1. Getting thrashed and running away
2. Defeating the Pacifista with mid difficulty
3. Defeating the Pacifista with high dff
4. Defeating it with low diff
5. Not fighting at all and just running
all have equal support in the manga: None. We don't know which one of these is true, and which are false. Meaning, you cannót use the Heart/Kidd Pirates vs Pacifista fight as a frame of reference due to the fact that we have no details on how the fight went, at all. Strike two.
Your logic is that if Group A did better than or exhibited better strength as a whole than Group B, then an individual from Group A must be better than an individual from Group B. Your logic is that because the Strawhat Pirates defeated a PAcifista on their own, and because you're
guessing(by the way, that's strike 3) that the Heart Pirates, even with the Kidd Pirates, did worse, that Luffy must be better than Law. That is what your logic says, no way around it, that's what it is. My Whitebeard/Akainu analogy was not pitiful, but spot on. Akainu's group won the war of Marineford, but he'd still lose to someone from Group B, Whitebeard. We saw Whitebeard defeat Akainu once his illnesses had ceased to impact his body for the time being when he thrashed Akainu out of rage of him killing Ace. Strike 4.
There are more ways of pointing out why you're logic is flawed.
Strawhats took out a PX on there own but Law needed help from the kidd pirates to take out one.
The gab is still there
The question isn't Strawhats vs Law, but Luffy vs Law. You're reasoning is that because Law needed help from the Kidd Pirates to defeat a Pacifista, but the Strawhats defeated the Pacifista all on their own, that as a member of the Strawhats, there is a clear gap between Law and Luffy.
Reason #1 why this logic is ass: You say that Law needed the help of the Kidd Pirates. But, it's also a fact that Luffy needed help from the rest of his crew. We already know that Luffy on his own, like Law, can't destroy a Pacifista on his own at that time. However, how can Luffy>Law because Law can't take down a Pacifista on his own and needed help from a crew, when Luffy also can't take down a Pacifista and needed help from his crew? Strike 5
Reason #2 why this logic is ass: Does that mean that because Chopper, Nami, Brook or Usopp was part of the Strawhats, the gap between them and Law is there, with it being in there favor? After all, being part of the group that defeated the Pacifista is your ¨proof¨ of Luffy>Law, it has to apply to the other members as well. I guess Usopp, Nami, Brook and Chopper also defeat Law in a fight. Strike 6
Reason #3 why this logic is ass: This happened pre-skip. We're talking about current Law vs Luffy. Because pre-skip Law needed help from Kidd's crew, and pre-skip Luffy needed help from his crew, post-skip Luffy>post-skip Law? I doubt you even comprehend why this makes no sense. Strike 7.
And then, to top it all off, you're saying that Law and Kidd didn't escape the Pacifista, because Kuma showed up to fight the Strawhats? Let's ignore the fact that Law and Kidd weren't arrested. Let's ignore the fact that we actually saw them at Sabaody after the incident brought Kizaru and the Marines around and while Marineford was going on. Let's ignore the fact that Law was able to freely make his way to Marineford with his entire crew and his ship. How, in any sense of the English language and all that isn't asinine, does the fact that Kuma showed up to fight the Strawhats mean that Law and Kidd didn't escape the Pacifista? Strike 8
8 strikes, 8 major flaws that all render your argument, quite simply, ass. Please, think before you post next time.
Edit: Actually, there's even another ninth strike I forgot to type due to the overwhelming amount of flaws present.
You said my statement that Law and Kidd probably didn't cooperate is baseless. No it's not. It's based on this page
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Kidd and Law have friction. Kidd enjoys provoking Law by telling him what to do, and Law hates being ordered around. The two just don't get along at all. That's what makes them so unlikely to be able to attack in a coordinated fashion. Even while about to confront Kuma in the page above, Kidd tells Law he's in the way and Law threatens to kill Kidd. Simply fighting one opponent at once, or fighting a group at once isn't cooperating and coordinating attacks, they're fighting the same opponent at the same time, but separately.
