Whats this about size?

[Shinato]

The base seem to be arguing over the fact that Naruto and Sasuke's avatars are smaller than that of Madara and Hashirama. (Madara's Perfect Susano'o and his Kurama to be specific.) They are defining the power of the two characters based off the size of their avatars, this I don't get as its been made clear that size doesn't really have much to do with power. Madara's Perfect Susano'o was huge in its first faze, but it couldn't do much until he stabilized it. When he concentrated the chakra he had drawn fourth, only then did it become dangerous. (In other words, with the same size it was more dangerous when it was stabilized.) When Obito and Madara became the Juubi's Jin, they contained the same power as the Juubi, only smaller in size. Not to mention that they were more dangerous than the Juubi as they were able to balance, contain and focus the power rather than just firing off random charges. They were able to concentrate their chakra into better attacks than the Juubi could alone. Size doesn't directly affect power, concentration of chakra and its focus does.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Long story short : Madara>Naruto>Sasuke>Obito

 

[Seventh Sama]

Yeah, I have no idea where they started assuming that.

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

Size doesn't directly affect power, concentration of chakra and its focus does.

Agreed .​

 

[Shinato]

Yeah, I have no idea where they started assuming that.

Most likely the same reason people assume that Naruto's attacks are more deadly than Sasuke's. They say Naruto's are stronger because of the size, yet Sasuke's are more focused. (All in all, they are equally powerful.)

 

[Shinato]

Long story short : Madara>Naruto>Sasuke>Obito

It would be more like;

Naruto = Sasuke > Madara > Obito

 

[Ambivalence]

Naruto = Sasuke > Madara > Obito

Mmm, i disagree. Naruto and Sasuke cannot (individually) defeat the strongest version of Madara, unless you meant EMS Madara.

As for the thread, i agree, but what can you expect from the users here, anyways...

 

[Shinato]

Mmm, i disagree. Naruto and Sasuke cannot (individually) defeat the strongest version of Madara, unless you meant EMS Madara.

As for the thread, i agree, but what can you expect from the users here, anyways...

I was thinking about the Madara they fought, Juubi with one Rinnegan. Technically speaking, Sasuke should have all the Rinnegan abilities and Susano'o that Madara used. (Unless Limbo is unique to Madara) Including the Shift ability and the fact that Madara was scared of fighting Sasuke and Naruto with only one Rinnegan. (That and Sasuke did managed to surprise and scare Madara.) So if that is the truth and Sasuke was equally matched if not stronger, then the same goes for Naruto.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

It would be more like;

Naruto = Sasuke > Madara > Obito

Once Madz got both eyes Naruto and Sasuke couldnt get close to him and Obito hyped the shit out of him
Do you think Sasuke can take on 5 Limbo Clones+Madara himself?

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Just made a thread bout this , people are styooooobid
Ot: Agreed

 

[Da Best Ever]

This is only right for some cases but not for all cases because sometimes size does matter and it reflects power.

This makes me believe all ashura and Indra reincarnations are roughly the same in power level at their best.

Rinne Sasuke from what he has shown isn't better than 1 rinne madara pre jin and their move sets are roughly the same revolving around susano. RM Naruto isn't better than sm hashirama. The only thing I see naruto has on hashirama is speed. Other than speed the FRS variants would be countered by multiple Mokuton constructs that casually caught bijuudamas. If they can casually catch bijuudamas then they can catch frs casually or with effort. Physically naruto is better but skill and jutsu wise hashirama is better.

 

[Shinato]

Once Madz got both eyes Naruto and Sasuke couldnt get close to him and Obito hyped the shit out of him
Do you think Sasuke can take on 5 Limbo Clones+Madara himself?

Did you even read my post? Also, Sasuke can see them and attack them using the Susano'o. The powers of the Limbo was never really stated, only showed a little but they cannot deflect a attack from Sasuke or Naruto. In other words, they cannot stop a attack from a PS. That being said, Madara's greatest jutsu as a Juubi Jin was the Limbo and his Seeker Balls. The only thing that has a remote chance of stopping Sasuke is the Seeker balls, though Sasuke could swap them out of Madara's reach.

Beyond that, it was never said or confirmed that Sasuke cannot use Limbo himself.

 

[Shinato]

This is only right for some cases but not for all cases because sometimes size does matter and it reflects power.

This makes me believe all ashura and Indra reincarnations are roughly the same in power level at their best.

Rinne Sasuke from what he has shown isn't better than 1 rinne madara pre jin and their move sets are roughly the same revolving around susano. RM Naruto isn't better than sm hashirama. The only thing I see naruto has on hashirama is speed. Other than speed the FRS variants would be countered by multiple Mokuton constructs that casually caught bijuudamas. If they can casually catch bijuudamas then they can catch frs casually or with effort. Physically naruto is better but skill and jutsu wise hashirama is better.

The fact that size do show power is somewhat true, though the fact that the real power comes from its concentration is also true. A large scale jutsu is nothing more than a concentration of chakra. Meaning the size is born from the concentration.

 

[Apêx1]

Agreed. People apparently think Quantity>Quality on the page.