Double Rinnegan SM Madara vs Current Sasuke

[Blunt]

Sasuke swaps with a limbo clone that is near madara then bisects him.

He swaps with a Limbo clone and he is in the middle of four more, he still needs to strike, so Limbo, being faster than Sasuke physically, blocks it. Madara proceeds to use Deva Path and kills him the same way he did as before or has his Limbo's gangbang him.

That or Madara merges with his Mokuton and let's the Limbo clones put in work.

 

[AizenSosuke]

Sasuke wins this.

 

[QdonEms]

He swaps with a Limbo clone and he is in the middle of four more, he still needs to strike, so Limbo, being faster than Sasuke physically, blocks it. Madara proceeds to use Deva Path and kills him the same way he did as before or has his Limbo's gangbang him.

That or Madara merges with his Mokuton and let's the Limbo clones put in work.

Fair point. But sasuke can teleport madara in front of him and bisect him depending on distance limbo clones cant counter in time. Oh and can Almighty Push effect limbo clones?

 

[Blunt]

Fair point. But sasuke can teleport madara in front of him and bisect him depending on distance limbo clones cant counter in time. Oh and can Almighty Push effect limbo clones?

Madara has been shown to trade places with his Limbo clones, evident when Naruto and Sasuke used sealing jutsu on him.

Since the intel is full, Madara can instantly activate Ribcage Susano'o to defend from his blade. Sasuke, Itachi and Madara have all shown it is nigh instant. That and two Limbo clones can engage Sasuke, forcing him on the defensive.

 

[Benjamin King]

Double Rinnegan Madara is canonically at the same level as None Jinchuuriki Hagoromo, possessing the combined Chakra of Indra and Ashura, and able to function the full power of the Rinnegan as well as maintaining his EMS and Mokuton. If it comes to close CQC, Sennin Mode enhanced with Hagoromo's Chakra gives an identical properties to Rikudou Senjutsu, giving Madara a sensing to detect every movement of Sasuke. If the latter tries to surprise attack using his Dimensional Shifting, Madara's 5 Limbo who are surrounded will intercept any move by Sasuke. I don't need to explain how Madara reacted and intercepted Tobirama and Minato in the speed department:

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In CQC, Madara destroys Sasuke. His sensing detects all of Sasuke's attentions, his Limbo which have the speed and strength to intercept Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke together [

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], and the black rods that can kill him if it hits a vital point.

Sasuke's best fire-power is Perfect Susanoo, which has nothing on a Perfect Susanoo enhanced by the combined Chakra of Indra and Ashura. Given the explanation made by Hagoromo, Madara merged the two bloodlines; Sasuke, however, was only blessed with the Yin power of Hagoromo. A stronger Chakra automatically means a stronger PS. Aside from PS, Madara has destructive offers, like Deva Path or Asura Path, which at the hands of the original wielder of the Rinnegan, can make a comparable AOE to

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.

I honestly feel sorry for Sasuke, he will get toyed around and then murdered-stomped by Madara.​

 

[King Of Pop]

Good thing none of that will occur if Sasuke's PS is restricted.

madara with reactions being enhanced with rikudous senjutsu failed to evade sasukes rinne bliz when he drew him nearer. he doesnt have to battle the clones, he just shifts the real madara closer and carves him up. he aint reacting.

 

[Blunt]

madara with reactions being enhanced with rikudous senjutsu failed to evade sasukes rinne bliz when he drew him nearer. he doesnt have to battle the clones, he just shifts the real madara closer and carves him up. he aint reacting.

Read my posts regarding Limbo on page one, I've already explained why that is not happening.

Madara sends two Limbo clones on the offensive and has three on the defensive, any Susano'o bar PS is getting blown out of the water and Sasuke can only dodge Limbo a few times. He will be on the defensive the entire time, while Madara can merge with his Mokuton in the meanwhile, and just let the clones decimate him.

By the way, Sasuke never blitzed Madara, Madara had enough time to spout a sentence and he didn't even have Limbo clones dispersed. Not only that, but Madara's only goal was to obtain his other Rinnegan, he didn't care about Sasuke at that point in time. He blitzed him once, that's when the sword swap happened.

 

[Pragmatic]

Ummmmm

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This happens again then amaterasu madara wont escape this time w/o kamui

 

[Zee U]

Question, what do you mean? Isn't Kirin pure natural energy and doesn't require chakra?

I worded it poorly.

Enhanced enton > bigger and hotter flames > more cumonimbuli > stronger Kirin

 

[King Of Pop]

=Blunt;17400007]Read my posts regarding Limbo on page one, I've already explained why that is not happening.

Madara sends two Limbo clones on the offensive and has three on the defensive, any Susano'o bar PS is getting blown out of the water and Sasuke can only dodge Limbo a few times. He will be on the defensive the entire time, while Madara can merge with his Mokuton in the meanwhile, and just let the clones decimate him.

he actually has 4 clones with double rinne, not five. bold, based on what? hes lower soosano would also be enhanced with rikudous boost and like i said before he doesnt have to engage them, he swaps near the real madara and cuts him up. your scenario has it that both madara and his limbo clones(defensive) would be able to react to sasukes s/t which is false.

By the way, Sasuke never blitzed Madara, Madara had enough time to spout a sentence and he didn't even have Limbo clones dispersed. Not only that, but Madara's only goal was to obtain his other Rinnegan, he didn't care about Sasuke at that point in time. He blitzed him once, that's when the sword swap happened.

the usual excuse always made for madara. not caring about sasuke doesnt equate to getting chopped in half, you can not care about someone but still stop their attack. not to mention i wasnt talking about that, sasuke also blized him here

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. the first scan you can see the question mark on his face, he was blized without any reactions whatsover. add the sword bliz earlier and his speed which troubled madara later on and you know why this version of him here is getting slapped. madaras only hope is staying out of range. he doesnt have to enagage the clones. if sasuke can use rinne shift very quickly here then he wont need ps but if madara is out of range then yes he would need it.

 

[Blunt]

he actually has 4 clones with double rinne, not five. bold, based on what? hes lower soosano would also be enhanced with rikudous boost and like i said before he doesnt have to engage them, he swaps near the real madara and cuts him up. your scenario has it that both madara and his limbo clones(defensive) would be able to react to sasukes s/t which is false.

Actually he has five, one was already sealed by Naruto, how did you miss that? Susano'o isn't heavier than the tailed beasts unless it's at it's final stage, Rikudo chakra or not, it's getting manhandled. Keep in mind one clone did that to nine Bijuu, two to three clones will play with Sasuke's Susano'o with ease. One Limbo crossed over 100m distance and near simultaneously spanked the Bijuu. Are you implying Susano'o has superior execution speed and striking speed then that?

Like I already explained, Limbo clones are reacting to and blocking all of Sasuke's attempts at hitting Madara, being that his striking speed is inferior to that of Limbo's, it's not debatable. Your entire argument is based off of Sasuke blitzing Madara without all his clones, things are severely different in this case.

Madara simply stays out of harms way, by A) camping in Susano'o or B) merging with his Mokuton. This is not to mention all of his arsenal, he has all of Hashirama's constructs and abilities.

the usual excuse always made for madara. not caring about sasuke doesnt equate to getting chopped in half, you can not care about someone but still stop their attack. not to mention i wasnt talking about that, sasuke also blized him here

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. the first scan you can see the question mark on his face, he was blized without any reactions whatsover. add the sword bliz earlier and his speed which troubled madara later on and you know why this version of him here is getting slapped. madaras only hope is staying out of range. he doesnt have to enagage the clones. if sasuke can use rinne shift very quickly here then he wont need ps but if madara is out of range then yes he would need it.

Already explained why none of this is happening. Let me charge my phone and I'll add more to my post.

 

[Benjamin King]

Sasuke's fans have a habit of denying the events on the manga, smh. It never stops. Let's look at the times where Sasuke blitzed Madara using his S/T:

1). Let's look at Madara's hand position just before Sasuke switches with his sword:

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It's on front to try and grab Sasuke's eye. At the same instant Sasuke switches with his sword, Madara's hand position is pulled back:

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Look at the motion line, it's a very heavy. It's simple why the sword went through him: Madara was accelerating at a high speed, thus producing a lot of force. If he tried to stop, he will need to a lot force to stop his acceleration and mass. Even KCM Naruto had a lot of trouble controlling his speed. The sword itself didn't actually stab Madara; the latter himself moved so fast that he ended up stabbing himself.

2). The second instant when Sasuke bisected him:

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2 things indicates Madara saw his intent perfectly:

1. His commenting on Sasuke's speed.
2. He moved his whole body around. He was facing Kakashi's positions and turned himself back to Sasuke.

Of course he cared more about his Rinnegan than getting bisected, which can be regenerated. Having information about a Jutsu is very helpful in creating counters. Madara started to learn Sasuke's S/T after witnessing slowly. With Limbo clones around, Sasuke's chances of blitzing Madara = 0%.

See, it's simple when you think.​

 

[King Of Pop]

=Blunt;17400399]Actually he has five, one was already sealed by Naruto, how did you miss that? Susano'o isn't heavier than the tailed beasts unless it's at it's final stage, Rikudo chakra or not, it's getting manhandled. Keep in mind one clone did that to nine Bijuu, two to three clones will play with Sasuke's Susano'o with ease. One Limbo crossed over 100m distance and near simultaneously spanked the Bijuu. Are you implying Susano'o has superior execution speed and striking speed then that?

ohh yh lol my bad, forgot about that clone. hmm i see what you mean but sasuke can swap away from them.

Like I already explained, Limbo clones are reacting to and blocking all of Sasuke's attempts at hitting Madara, being that his striking speed is inferior to that of Limbo's, it's not debatable. Your entire argument is based off of Sasuke blitzing Madara without all his clones, things are severely different in this case.

except if sasuke shifts madara to his attack then theres nothing his clones can do. your post would have some merit if the only way sasuke could attack was by teleporting himself towards madara but no, if sasuke brings madara to him then i dont see what clones can do about that, i dont see how they would prevent that. the only way they can stop that from happening is if they quickly attack sasuke and keep him on the defensive but sasuke can dodge their attempts by shifting away

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, unlike the bijjus, sasuke can see them hence he can dodge then he goes for madara with another shift.

Madara simply stays out of harms way, by A) camping in Susano'o or B) merging with his Mokuton. This is not to mention all of his arsenal, he has all of Hashirama's constructs and abilities.

ok then if he does use his ps and mokuton then yh sasuke would need to use ps so i agree here.

Already explained why none of this is happening. Let me charge my phone and I'll add more to my post.

sure.

 

[wael reda]

when he is sliced in two? no he cant.

no, he can still reattach his halves with mouktun or susano arm then heal using hasjirama’s regeneration ,tusonade did the same

 

[Blunt]

ohh yh lol my bad, forgot about that clone. hmm i see what you mean but sasuke can swap away from them.

Read below, and to people viewing this, this is specifically if PS is restricted.

except if sasuke shifts madara to his attack then theres nothing his clones can do. your post would have some merit if the only way sasuke could attack was by teleporting himself towards madara but no, if sasuke brings madara to him then i dont see what clones can do about that, i dont see how they would prevent that. the only way they can stop that from happening is if they quickly attack sasuke and keep him on the defensive but sasuke can dodge their attempts by shifting away

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, unlike the bijjus, sasuke can see them hence he can dodge then he goes for madara with another shift.

Let me start by saying, he can see them, but I already provided proof that Limbo clones are quicker and have superior striking speed as well. Gedo Mazo was approximately 100+ meters from the Biju

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, and the Biju were around 2/5 meters away from each other a piece, there is nine. That means, Madara's single Limbo clone was so fast, it crossed 100m near instantly, then attacked the Biju near simultaneously which is another few meters. He even hit Matatabi mid sentence, "Be carefu-"..... --->

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By no means is Sasuke evading Limbo consistently without his teleportation.

Madara has full intel in this match up, he is well aware of Sasuke's range and ability, he starts off by utilizing Gouka Mekkakyu

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and then Jukai Koutan

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to remove any LoS Sasuke has, and immediately merges with his Mokuton. Meanwhile,. the Limbo's engage Sasuke. While Sasuke is under attack, Madara re-emerges in a different spot and uses Flower Tree World

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, which Sasuke will use Amaterasu to get rid of, though this serves as another distraction. He is not surviving all those Limbo's and you yourself already admitted this, look below.

if sasuke can use rinne shift very quickly here then he wont need ps but if madara is out of range then yes he would need it.

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ok then if he does use his ps and mokuton then yh sasuke would need to use ps so i agree here.

I'm talking about Legged Susano'o.

 

[Apêx1]

Double Rinnegan Madara is canonically at the same level as None Jinchuuriki Hagoromo, possessing the combined Chakra of Indra and Ashura, and able to function the full power of the Rinnegan as well as maintaining his EMS and Mokuton. If it comes to close CQC, Sennin Mode enhanced with Hagoromo's Chakra gives an identical properties to Rikudou Senjutsu, giving Madara a sensing to detect every movement of Sasuke. If the latter tries to surprise attack using his Dimensional Shifting, Madara's 5 Limbo who are surrounded will intercept any move by Sasuke. I don't need to explain how Madara reacted and intercepted Tobirama and Minato in the speed department:

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In CQC, Madara destroys Sasuke. His sensing detects all of Sasuke's attentions, his Limbo which have the speed and strength to intercept Sakura, Naruto and Sasuke together [

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], and the black rods that can kill him if it hits a vital point.

Sasuke's best fire-power is Perfect Susanoo, which has nothing on a Perfect Susanoo enhanced by the combined Chakra of Indra and Ashura. Given the explanation made by Hagoromo, Madara merged the two bloodlines; Sasuke, however, was only blessed with the Yin power of Hagoromo. A stronger Chakra automatically means a stronger PS. Aside from PS, Madara has destructive offers, like Deva Path or Asura Path, which at the hands of the original wielder of the Rinnegan, can make a comparable AOE to

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.

I honestly feel sorry for Sasuke, he will get toyed around and then murdered-stomped by Madara.​

The wank is real. Your entire premise is based around Madara being equivalent to non-Jin Hagromo, which is wrong. Madara's SM is not Rikudo's Senjutsu, it is Hashirama's watered down version of Ashura's SM. Big difference. Madara doesn't have Rikudo's chakra in the first place. He has a heavily watered down version due to the genetic variation that occurs between each new generation. Genes change, chakra is passed down, but each time it is done, it is further and further away from how Hagromo's actually was, due to the randomness of genetic inheritance. Hence, Madara doesn't have Rikudo's senjutsu nor does he have Rikudo's chakra. He simply has the Rinnegan, a watered down SM and Rikudo's heavily watered down version, no more, no less. On the other hand, Sasuke and Naruto have a first hand version of Rikudo's chakra, meaning it wasn't watered down at all. Only because it is the Yin part doesn't mean it isn't above Madara because; 1. Rikudo's chakra is similar to senjutsu in one way or another, Sasuke simply doesn't gain the sensing and regeneration SM grants. 2. Sasuke gains a hybrid Rinnegan, which when combined with Sasuke's other 3T eye, adds up to 9T, thus Sasuke has the Third eye spread upon 2 eyes. 3. Sasuke's' speed is vastly superior to non-Shinju Madara's, if Jin Madara was casually being blitzed by Naruto and Shinju Madara was only slightly above Sasuke in speed.
Facts:
1. SM Rinnegan Madara is much much slower than Sasuke.
2. SM RInnegan Madara has slower reaction speeds to Jin Madara, who couldn't react to swap.
3. Sasuke's chakra is significantly more potent than watered down Madara's chakra.
4. More potent chakra means he can use a more powerful PS. We already saw Madara's PS, by feats it is on a much lower level (further emphasising on the fact his chakra is much less potent due to genetic variation).
5. Sasuke can coat PS with Enton to make limbo's shit themselves.

 

[Blunt]

no, he can still reattach his halves with mouktun or susano arm then heal using hasjirama’s regeneration ,tusonade did the same

He cannot survive being beheaded, though that happening is unlikely.

 

[Apêx1]

Read below, and to people viewing this, this is specifically if PS is restricted.



Let me start by saying, he can see them, but I already provided proof that Limbo clones are quicker and have superior striking speed as well. Gedo Mazo was approximately 100+ meters from the Biju

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, and the Biju were around 2/5 meters away from each other a piece, there is nine. That means, Madara's single Limbo clone was so fast, it crossed 100m near instantly, then attacked the Biju near simultaneously which is another few meters. He even hit Matatabi mid sentence, "Be carefu-"..... --->

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By no means is Sasuke evading Limbo consistently without his teleportation.

Madara has full intel in this match up, he is well aware of Sasuke's range and ability, he starts off by utilizing Gouka Mekkakyu

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and then Jukai Koutan

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to remove any LoS Sasuke has, and immediately merges with his Mokuton. Meanwhile,. the Limbo's engage Sasuke. While Sasuke is under attack, Madara re-emerges in a different spot and uses Flower Tree World

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, which Sasuke will use Amaterasu to get rid of, though this serves as another distraction. He is not surviving all those Limbo's and you yourself already admitted this, look below.




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I'm talking about Legged Susano'o.

Don't see how this will all be helpful against Sasuke who can wield Deva Path and Preta Path as stated by OP. Sasuke's Legged Susano walks through the Katon and then Shinra Tensei's the Mokuton, and then Shinra Tensei's the Flower Tree World/Destroys it with Enton. Don't forget the fact that Sasuke can use his Hawk in case he realises the real Madara completely disappeared, as he has no reason to fight the limbo's and forget about the real Madara..

 

[Blunt]

Don't see how this will all be helpful against Sasuke who can wield Deva Path and Preta Path as stated by OP. Sasuke's Legged Susano walks through the Katon and then Shinra Tensei's the Mokuton, and then Shinra Tensei's the Flower Tree World/Destroys it with Enton. Don't forget the fact that Sasuke can use his Hawk in case he realises the real Madara completely disappeared, as he has no reason to fight the limbo's and forget about the real Madara..

It serves as a way to get rid of their LoS, and why are you disregarding Limbo like they are going to sit there and let this all happen? Unless you can provide some proof that multiple Limbo won't play with Sasuke's Susano'o like a ball, then your argument is moot. Sasuke will be on the defensive the entire time, Madara does not need to fight him with his real body. He can sit in the background, cast CT and let the mayhem begin.

 

[Apêx1]

It serves as a way to get rid of their LoS, and why are you disregarding Limbo like they are going to sit there and let this all happen? Unless you can provide some proof that multiple Limbo won't play with Sasuke's Susano'o like a ball, then your argument is moot. Sasuke will be on the defensive the entire time, Madara does not need to fight him with his real body. He can sit in the background, cast CT and let the mayhem begin.

Hmm.. Fair enough, in a restricted match-up, Madara wins.