Deidara & 3rd Raikage vs Minato & Tobirama

[Icelerate]

HE took damage from ST since the nature of the attack led to him getting sent flying kilometres away, and with the summons masss being really large, means that the force of gravity would be much higher
Missiles get taken care off through the S/T barrier, as Minato can then use his kunais to close the distance and place a mark on deidara,

C1 missiles can blow up the kunais and Deidara has enough time to do so because of the starting distance. Not to mention he has proven he can fly high. Space time barrier can work but since Deidara uses homing missile, he can make his missile go around the space time barrier. Intel is full so Deidara will utilise unorthodox methods at attacking.

But I can agree that he loses due to not having enough clay or chakra to win this matchup.

 

[RedRobin]

Full intel goes both ways as the 3rd Raikage will know not to use his strongest hell stab and instead stick to his weaker ones.

You dont think any weaker hell stabs will hurt him?

The strongest one pierced deep into his body. The weaker ones should also do damage.

 

[Icelerate]

You dont think any weaker hell stabs will hurt him?

The strongest one pierced deep into his body. The weaker ones should also do damage.

Depends on which one but I think he can tank 4 fingered hell stab with only his skin being grazed. Three finger hell stab can pierce through his skin but won't go all the way to his vitals IMO.

 

[ARGUS]

C1 missiles can blow up the kunais and Deidara has enough time to do so because of the starting distance. Not to mention he has proven he can fly high. Space time barrier can work but since Deidara uses homing missile, he can make his missile go around the space time barrier. Intel is full so Deidara will utilise unorthodox methods at attacking.

But I can agree that he loses due to not having enough clay or chakra to win this matchup.

Yeah i see ur point on the missiles going around the barrier i forgot about that,

 

[Unorthodox]

Raikages movements are restricted with the land mines Lol

I'm leaning toward team 1 though

3rd raikage can tank any explosion from Deidara bar c0 and possibly c3 landminds arnt a problem

 

[Apêx1]

I agree with my master, 3rd Raikage and Deidara win with low-mid difficulty under these conditions stipulated in the OP. 3rd Raikage ate a Wind Cast Net (

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) without taking lethal damage. Without Tobirama's Gojou

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, I fail to see how Minato and Tobirama have anything in their arsenal to harm him considering none of their jutsus have the penetrating power of high calibre slicing fuuton (

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). They aren't outlasting him either. I see people bring up the 3rd Raikage's weakness, the 3rd Raikage is no idiot, he isn't going to use one fingered hell stab if he has full intel on his weakness and there is the fact that neither Minato nor Tobirama can tank 4 fingered hell stab so he'll use that instead. Don't bring an edo mindless 3rd Raikage who was being controlled by Kabuto to prove the 3rd Raikage's willingness to use the one fingered hell stab because Kabuto did not know the Raikage's weakness

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. In the event the 3rd Raikage gets tagged while he has raiton cloak activated, he simply removes the raiton cloak and activates it again, thus removing the FTG tag.

Speaking of Deidara, he isn't getting blitzed because he starts in the air and has a 100 m starting distance. His bombs have great AoE (

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) so dodging won't be easy even with FTG, sensory abilities and top tier foot speed. In spite of all this, Minato and Tobirama can probably still do so but they also have to watch out for

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and all the while keeping an eye on the 3rd Raikage. These

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or C4 because I fail to see how they can get out of range without triggering a mine. They can sense the mines and can be careful but then they aren't fast enough to escape C4/C3 range. If Tobirama and Minato decide to mark the battlefield, Deidara's explosives will send the FTG marks flying away or outright destroying them.

I actually see both 3rd Raikage and Deidara soloing this with high difficulty under these conditions.

Low-mid diff? Lmao, nah.
3rd was shown having taken slight damage from the wind cast net since his edo body was portrayed healing. He lost his Raiton shroud against FRS. Attacks do have attacks on him, it's simply slight amounts. Bu the fact he is no longer edo means recurring attacks on his body should definitely take a toll on him regardless of his durability.
I disagree. SM is perfected in this scenario. This means Minato's base rasengan, which is the size of Naruto's odama rasengan, will become much more powerful when enhanced with SM, making his Odama far superior to Naruto's (not the Chou Odama variants). More so, both people who have awakened SM have had their rasengan's size increase massively. In BM, they were able to generate equivalently sized Rasengan's, implying equal skill in their Rasengan proficiency. This means there is 0 reason for Minato not to be capable of creating Rasengan's on the level of SM Naruto and SM Jiraiya. Knowing this by implications, Chou Odama Rasengan [

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] (using the Rasengan Naruto utilised after having just learned SM) would definitely cause a large amount of damage, given that a normal SM enhanced Rasengan was able to do this to Juubito [

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]. A Chou Odama Rasengan's size without its explosion was rubbing off layers of v1 Susano, until Madara decided to go v3 and push Naruto off. Notice this is without the Rasengan exploding, simply its base torque. Was just establishing Minato's destructive power before countering your points.

It is unlikely he will use 1 fingered Nukite, I agree. And FTG marks aren't removed via Chakra expulsion, I don't know where you got that from. Obito had his for entire life and seemingly, nothing was able to remove it bar gaining a new body altogether. Either way, nothing implies chakra can do such, nor do I see how it would do such at all. Thus, the mark remains on him until you can show implications of it being removable. Knowing that the mark remains, Minato and his clones can keep teleporting behind him and smashing him with Chou Odama Rasengan's. And no, he doesn't tank them all, they are bound to inflict great damage after repeatedly hitting the same place of his body. inb4 FRS didn't do nothing so Rasengan hitting again and again won't. Wrong. The base Rasengan used against Raikage caused cracks in his Edo body [

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] with solely torque. The explosions energy output is far greater, and the fact this is chou Odama means the torque and explosions are on much greater levels. Repetitively teleporting behind Raikage and smashing him with Chou Odama Rasengan's should definitely end this fight.

Deidara isn't a massive factor. Both have Hirashin and both can utilise clones. Both can sense very well, with Minato's being the superior of the two. Minato and Tobirama have the two greatest non-Rikudo reaction speeds in the entire manga. Tobirama is slightly superior to base Minato, and was capable of tagging Juubito several times with paper bombs while being blitzed. Minato, who now has SM, would arguably be even faster than Tobirama in terms of reaction speed, when looking at the difference of reactions between Base Naruto and SM Naruto as a basis for implications. If Hebi Sasuke, with inferior reaction speeds to the two of them, can blitz out of explosions unharmed, then the two of these can definitely do the same, or simply FTG to a Kage Bunshin. Heck they can purposely trigger the bombs under them when the Raikage is near them without his knowledge, and FTG away leaving him take slight damage. Knowing the fact he is probably on the floor due to the explosion, Minato can utilise the moment in order to Teleport to the tag place onto him and smash him with another Chou Odama Rasengan, further damaging him now that his Raiton cloak would probably be weakened.

Deidara has no chance in this fight, if the Third is killed prior to Deidara. He is notable for coming into fights unprepared. His explosions won't occur for extended periods of time, or at least, not as long as Minato and Tobirama can upkeep their ability to use FTG. And no, C4 with full intel is a joke. They easily Shunshin or teleport out of its known radius upon a sight of a Deidara 'becoming massive'. I don't see how they would hit a Mine if they throw an FTG kunai and teleport to it, but that's just me. And yea.. High diff solo'ing... Lol