Deidara & 3rd Raikage vs Minato & Tobirama

[Unorthodox]

Location - SA vs Juubi
Distance - 100m
Info - Full
Conditions - Everyone is alive Deidara starts in the air also has the area prepped with underground Bombs, Minato has SM perfected. Raikage has black Lighting Feats of darui
Restrictions - Ma & Pa, any of frogs besides Bunta, ET,RDS,

 

[RicardoA]

Team FTG wins.

Full intel means either Tobirama or Minato will know what they have to do in order to harm the Raikage from the get go.
Deidara had trouble keeping up with Hebi Sasuke. He easily gets popped.

 

[LuckyMan]

How do you restrict RDS but not C0?

Bringing Down the House kills Deidara in the air swiftly then only Sandaime is left. With full Intel they know about his scar so Minato replicates what Naruto did to him and kills him. Hokages low difficulty, even with all the restrictions.

 

[Inert Brian]

Intel is full? 3rd Raikage is basically worthless in this fight then.

Minato can use Bringing down the house as the post above suggests to counter Deidara's flight. They can evade all of Deidara's attacks.

 

[Apêx1]

Team FTG take this.

 

[AizenSosuke]

Hokages win.

 

[Unorthodox]

How do you restrict RDS but not C0?

Bringing Down the House kills Deidara in the air swiftly then only Sandaime is left. With full Intel they know about his scar so Minato replicates what Naruto did to him and kills him. Hokages low difficulty, even with all the restrictions.

Bring down the house doesnt spawn over the target they need to be above it so they is useless deidara bombs them from the sky

Intel is full? 3rd Raikage is basically worthless in this fight then.

Minato can use Bringing down the house as the post above suggests to counter Deidara's flight. They can evade all of Deidara's attacks.

3rd raikage has darui lighting feats why would he need his nukite he can rip through the latter without the tech black pathers wrecks Bring down the house doesnt spawn above the target they would need to be above deidara witch they cant and with full intel deidara dodges easy

Hokages win.

i would disagree Team Deidara wins med-high

 

[Haizaki]

The FTG team wins.

 

[Icelerate]

I agree with my master, 3rd Raikage and Deidara win with low-mid difficulty under these conditions stipulated in the OP. 3rd Raikage ate a Wind Cast Net (

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) and FRS (

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) without taking lethal damage. Without Tobirama's Gojou

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, I fail to see how Minato and Tobirama have anything in their arsenal to harm him considering none of their jutsus have the penetrating power of high calibre slicing fuuton (

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). They aren't outlasting him either. I see people bring up the 3rd Raikage's weakness, the 3rd Raikage is no idiot, he isn't going to use one fingered hell stab if he has full intel on his weakness and there is the fact that neither Minato nor Tobirama can tank 4 fingered hell stab so he'll use that instead. Don't bring an edo mindless 3rd Raikage who was being controlled by Kabuto to prove the 3rd Raikage's willingness to use the one fingered hell stab because Kabuto did not know the Raikage's weakness

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. In the event the 3rd Raikage gets tagged while he has raiton cloak activated, he simply removes the raiton cloak and activates it again, thus removing the FTG tag.

Speaking of Deidara, he isn't getting blitzed because he starts in the air and has a 100 m starting distance. His bombs have great AoE (

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) so dodging won't be easy even with FTG, sensory abilities and top tier foot speed. In spite of all this, Minato and Tobirama can probably still do so but they also have to watch out for

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and all the while keeping an eye on the 3rd Raikage. These

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become extremely troublesome once Deidara uses

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or C4 because I fail to see how they can get out of range without triggering a mine. They can sense the mines and can be careful but then they aren't fast enough to escape C4/C3 range. If Tobirama and Minato decide to mark the battlefield, Deidara's explosives will send the FTG marks flying away or outright destroying them.

I actually see both 3rd Raikage and Deidara soloing this with high difficulty under these conditions.

 

[Draegod]

I agree with my master, 3rd Raikage and Deidara win with low-mid difficulty under these conditions stipulated in the OP. 3rd Raikage ate a Wind Cast Net (

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) and FRS (

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) without taking lethal damage. Without Tobirama's Gojou

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, I fail to see how Minato and Tobirama have anything in their arsenal to harm him considering none of their jutsus have the penetrating power of high calibre slicing fuuton (

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). They aren't outlasting him either. I see people bring up the 3rd Raikage's weakness, the 3rd Raikage is no idiot, he isn't going to use one fingered hell stab if he has full intel on his weakness and there is the fact that neither Minato nor Tobirama can tank 4 fingered hell stab so he'll use that instead. Don't bring an edo mindless 3rd Raikage who was being controlled by Kabuto to prove the 3rd Raikage's willingness to use the one fingered hell stab because Kabuto did not know the Raikage's weakness

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and

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. In the event the 3rd Raikage gets tagged while he has raiton cloak activated, he simply removes the raiton cloak and activates it again, thus removing the FTG tag.

Speaking of Deidara, he isn't getting blitzed because he starts in the air and has a 100 m starting distance. His bombs have great AoE (

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) so dodging won't be easy even with FTG, sensory abilities and top tier foot speed. In spite of all this, Minato and Tobirama can probably still do so but they also have to watch out for

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and all the while keeping an eye on the 3rd Raikage. These

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become extremely troublesome once Deidara uses

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or C4 because I fail to see how they can get out of range without triggering a mine. They can sense the mines and can be careful but then they aren't fast enough to escape C4/C3 range.

I actually see both 3rd Raikage and Deidara soloing this with high difficulty under these conditions.

Yep, for sure the FTG Duo lose until proven otherwise. And to add to the thread, couldn't Deidara use C4 and the 3rd not be affected since raiton cancels the jutsu (he can electrocute himself LIKE sasuke). Thus equating a victory?

 

[Icelerate]

Yep, for sure the FTG Duo lose until proven otherwise. And to add to the thread, couldn't Deidara use C4 and the 3rd not be affected since raiton cancels the jutsu (he can electrocute himself LIKE sasuke). Thus equating a victory?

Thanks for the rep and the raiton cloak should nullify the nano bombs because electricity is flowing throughout his body. 3rd Raikage and Deidara make a good combo considering Deidara can go around destroying his opposition without having to worry about his teammate taking damage.

Most people only said Minato and Tobirama win without looking at the stipulations in the OP and simply because the FTG duo are on a higher level when it comes to feats and portrayal for the most part.

 

[Haizaki]

Lol I change my mind. That was a great post Ice...I was actually thinking of how they could the put the 3rd down but they can't really.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Deidara and Raikage shits. They literally can't hit Deidara if he goes very high and nukes from above.

 

[Unorthodox]

now people are seeing

 

[Demonic.]

Raikages movements are restricted with the land mines Lol

I'm leaning toward team 1 though

 

[RedRobin]

Lol I change my mind. That was a great post Ice...I was actually thinking of how they could the put the 3rd down but they can't really.

Its full intel. Minato has perfect sage mode, he can pretty much do the same thing Naruto did as in base he has better reflexes and is faster.

 

[ARGUS]

Third Raikage and Deidara win this

--With the intel being full, the third would know that the FTG users are faster than him, and have the ability to backfire his offense therefore he would never even use his strongest hell stab, meaning that the chances for minato or tobirama to even scratch him are down the drain and with edos restricted for tobirama, the hokage lack in firepower

--Giving minato the SM is not changing anything at all when his rasengans are still not enough to scratch the raikage, and apart from gamabunta he lacks a way of closing the distance against deidara

--Gamabunta gets wrecked by the raikage, he stands no chance against the raikages hell stab, and with the summoning time on the agenda, he is not doing much here, and once the summon is down, the hokages chances of closing the distance against team1 are down the drain as well

--With bombs prepped for deidara and the 100m starting distance he can take care of tobirama quite well, and him giving the raikage the flight, as well as the fact that once gamabunta is down, simply allows deidara to use C4 to kill the hokages off, C3 can also be used

--the underground bombs that are prepped also allows deiidara to hinder minato and tobiramas use of FTG, and destroy most of the kunais and the marked locations

I agree with my master, 3rd Raikage and Deidara win with low-mid difficulty under these conditions stipulated in the OP. 3rd Raikage ate a Wind Cast Net (

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) and FRS (

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) without taking lethal damage. Without Tobirama's Gojou

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, I fail to see how Minato and Tobirama have anything in their arsenal to harm him considering none of their jutsus have the penetrating power of high calibre slicing fuuton (

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)(

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). They aren't outlasting him either. I see people bring up the 3rd Raikage's weakness, the 3rd Raikage is no idiot, he isn't going to use one fingered hell stab if he has full intel on his weakness and there is the fact that neither Minato nor Tobirama can tank 4 fingered hell stab so he'll use that instead. Don't bring an edo mindless 3rd Raikage who was being controlled by Kabuto to prove the 3rd Raikage's willingness to use the one fingered hell stab because Kabuto did not know the Raikage's weakness

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and

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. In the event the 3rd Raikage gets tagged while he has raiton cloak activated, he simply removes the raiton cloak and activates it again, thus removing the FTG tag.

Speaking of Deidara, he isn't getting blitzed because he starts in the air and has a 100 m starting distance. His bombs have great AoE (

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)(

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)(

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) so dodging won't be easy even with FTG, sensory abilities and top tier foot speed. In spite of all this, Minato and Tobirama can probably still do so but they also have to watch out for

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and all the while keeping an eye on the 3rd Raikage. These

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become extremely troublesome once Deidara uses

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or C4 because I fail to see how they can get out of range without triggering a mine. They can sense the mines and can be careful but then they aren't fast enough to escape C4/C3 range. If Tobirama and Minato decide to mark the battlefield, Deidara's explosives will send the FTG marks flying away or outright destroying them.

This pretty much, it sums up my thoughts completely

I actually see both 3rd Raikage and Deidara soloing this with high difficulty under these conditions.

I disagree with deidara soloing,

 

[DMT]

3rd raikage solos

 

[Icelerate]

Its full intel. Minato has perfect sage mode, he can pretty much do the same thing Naruto did as in base he has better reflexes and is faster.

Full intel goes both ways as the 3rd Raikage will know not to use his strongest hell stab and instead stick to his weaker ones.

Third Raikage and Deidara win this

--Giving minato the SM is not changing anything at all when his rasengans are still not enough to scratch the raikage, and apart from gamabunta he lacks a way of closing the distance against deidara

--Gamabunta gets wrecked by the raikage, he stands no chance against the raikages hell stab, and with the summoning time on the agenda, he is not doing much here, and once the summon is down, the hokages chances of closing the distance against team1 are down the drain as well

I disagree with deidara soloing,

Gamabunta took quite a bit of

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. I see Deidara's barrage of mines and missiles taking it out quite easily. Sure Gamabunta can jump high but Deidara

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and in the air, Gamabunta can't move.

 

[ARGUS]

Full intel goes both ways as the 3rd Raikage will know not to use his strongest hell stab and instead stick to his weaker ones.

Gamabunta took quite a bit of

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. I see Deidara's barrage of mines and missiles taking it out quite easily. Sure Gamabunta can jump high but Deidara

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and in the air, Gamabunta can't move.

HE took damage from ST since the nature of the attack led to him getting sent flying kilometres away, and with the summons masss being really large, means that the force of gravity would be much higher
Missiles get taken care off through the S/T barrier, as Minato can then use his kunais to close the distance and place a mark on deidara,