Ebola... Ebola everywhere.

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To get Ebola, you have to ingest or somehow get an infected person's fluids inside your body. As long as you keep a distance from people, and wash your hands regularly while having above subpar hygiene, you'll be fine.​

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1.) Ebola may not be a powerful airborne virus, but it is capable of traveling a few meters before dying. If you are within 10-15 feet of an Ebola victim, you have a chance to receive it via air.

2.) Depending on the enviroment, ebola can live anywhere from 1-8 hours on objects before dying. For instance, if the victim uses an ATM with sweaty palms, as we all do, even in the slightest, it can remain on the ATM to infect the next few people to make contact with it for a short time, once again, dependent on the humidity and heat of the environment.

3.) Washing hands isn't entirely helpful against Ebola. Ebola is a virus, something far smaller than a cell by a long shot. Where your skin is strong enough to prevent any bacteria and infections from making it's way through, a virus has more opportunity as the small breaks within your skin that bacteria can't fit in might just be big enough for a virus to fit through. Even if you keep your hands away from any orifices, the virus may have already found another entrance.

4.) Bodily fluids include every fluid for your body, including your sweat. If you shake hands with an ebola victim, you got their sweat on you upon which you now are hardoring the Ebola virus (potentially) on your skin, most likely hand from hand contact. If that hand goes near your eyes, mouth, nostrils or lower orifices to simply scratch or such, you just allowed the virus easy access to your body.

However, there is no need to fear Ebola as you can simply keep your distance from known locations an Ebola victim was at, keep hand sanitizer with you at all times to slow virus travel after you use any public device such as ATMs, etc. If you do contract a virus, stay indoors and get plenty of rest while you observe symptoms. Of course symptoms from many viruses are similar, but once you get to a decent temperature and other worry some signs, cover your mouth with a scarf or small mask to prevent spread through coughing, stay to yourself and go seek the proper help. Minimize all contact with others to prevent spread as well. If statistics are correct with current medicine and resources in hospitals, you have a very good chance of surviving Ebola versus it's high mortality rate in 3rd world countries that lack the resources we have here in America.

Also, there is no cure for a virus, don't listen to what these conspiracy theorist say... There is not a single virus in the world with a cure to it, that is why we have to use vaccines. Vaccines are not cures, they give you the dead virus within the shot so that it can cause similar issues as a living virus, but not as catastrophic, just a mild headache, etc. Once your immune system locates the virus and attacks it, it creates a sort of copy of it and builds a defense on it, making it so that it may never infect you again or will have an extremely hard time doing so.
 

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Incorrect.

1.) Ebola may not be a powerful airborne virus, but it is capable of traveling a few meters before dying. If you are within 10-15 feet of an Ebola victim, you have a chance to receive it via air.

2.) Depending on the enviroment, ebola can live anywhere from 1-8 hours on objects before dying. For instance, if the victim uses an ATM with sweaty palms, as we all do, even in the slightest, it can remain on the ATM to infect the next few people to make contact with it for a short time, once again, dependent on the humidity and heat of the environment.

3.) Washing hands isn't entirely helpful against Ebola. Ebola is a virus, something far smaller than a cell by a long shot. Where your skin is strong enough to prevent any bacteria and infections from making it's way through, a virus has more opportunity as the small breaks within your skin that bacteria can't fit in might just be big enough for a virus to fit through. Even if you keep your hands away from any orifices, the virus may have already found another entrance.

4.) Bodily fluids include every fluid for your body, including your sweat. If you shake hands with an ebola victim, you got their sweat on you upon which you now are hardoring the Ebola virus (potentially) on your skin, most likely hand from hand contact. If that hand goes near your eyes, mouth, nostrils or lower orifices to simply scratch or such, you just allowed the virus easy access to your body.

However, there is no need to fear Ebola as you can simply keep your distance from known locations an Ebola victim was at, keep hand sanitizer with you at all times to slow virus travel after you use any public device such as ATMs, etc. If you do contract a virus, stay indoors and get plenty of rest while you observe symptoms. Of course symptoms from many viruses are similar, but once you get to a decent temperature and other worry some signs, cover your mouth with a scarf or small mask to prevent spread through coughing, stay to yourself and go seek the proper help. Minimize all contact with others to prevent spread as well. If statistics are correct with current medicine and resources in hospitals, you have a very good chance of surviving Ebola versus it's high mortality rate in 3rd world countries that lack the resources we have here in America.

Also, there is no cure for a virus, don't listen to what these conspiracy theorist say... There is not a single virus in the world with a cure to it, that is why we have to use vaccines. Vaccines are not cures, they give you the dead virus within the shot so that it can cause similar issues as a living virus, but not as catastrophic, just a mild headache, etc. Once your immune system locates the virus and attacks it, it creates a sort of copy of it and builds a defense on it, making it so that it may never infect you again or will have an extremely hard time doing so.

1) Via air from 10-15 feet away? Any proof for this? Because Ebola is not that contagious. The measles virus spreads through the air when infected people breathe, cough, or sneeze.

2) Uh.. not really.

3) It needs direct contact with broken skin. Touching someone with Ebola is not infecting you for certainly. But it does make it high chance.

4) Okay, prolly.
 

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The two people who quoted me thinking that the more bullshit they type, means the more accurate their statements are, are stupid as hell.

I don't care if I offended you, and I don't care what your ignorant asses have to say.

I'm not getting Ebola because it's something that can be prevented if one is cautious enough. Not like Ebola is something one needs to be overly cautious about in the first place.​
 

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Ha ha. Anyone thinking Ebola stands a chance in America needs to open their eyes. Every single victim gets isolated. The U.S have very strict quarantine laws. People think America is not prepared for this. They have always been prepared for this kind of stuff. Not to mention, the infection rate in the U.S isn't even that high. It's very low and the disease is barely contagious. You literally have to lick the victim to get the disease. The only countries at stake are developing countries. Not countries like U.S, lol.

 

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1) Via air from 10-15 feet away? Any proof for this? Because Ebola is not that contagious. The measles virus spreads through the air when infected people breathe, cough, or sneeze.

2) Uh.. not really.

3) It needs direct contact with broken skin. Touching someone with Ebola is not infecting you for certainly. But it does make it high chance.

4) Okay, prolly.

1.) since there is moisture within your cough, mucus in your sneeze, those are the transports to allow Ebola to spread airborne wise. How far and how long it can survive in the air is dependent on the humidity and temperature.

2.) The environment has a HUGE role in any viruses life expectancy and lethality while exposed to air. Ebola won't atrive for long in the dry and scorching hot weather in Texas, but with a more humid and warm location like Florida, it can last longer in exposed air.

3.) believe it or not, just because you cannot see the breaks in your skin, you definately have them. Fortunately their too small for a virus to travel through, but some are just large enough to allow passage.
 

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To get Ebola, you have to ingest or somehow get an infected person's fluids inside your body. As long as you keep a distance from people, and wash your hands regularly while having above subpar hygiene, you'll be fine.​

This.

Besides, in First/Second World countries, it's not even close to fatal.
 

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1) Via air from 10-15 feet away? Any proof for this? Because Ebola is not that contagious. The measles virus spreads through the air when infected people breathe, cough, or sneeze.

Ebola can be transmitted via Aerosol.

That means droplets of moisture - which is different from 'true airborne' transmission which would be like a pox virus that is independently suspended in the air. In the case of viruses like smallpox, they can remain suspended for hours and travel miles over open air.

In the case of Ebola, laboratory studies have concluded that aerosol transmission occurs and can pass between rooms linked by central air supply (The Ebola Reston outbreak illustrated this).



""INFECTIOUS DOSE: 1 - 10 aerosolized organisms are sufficient to cause infection in humans."

Ebola, you see, can "ride" on aerosolized particles of blood, mucous and other body fluids. Someone sneezing, for example, can cause Ebola viruses to be aerosolized where they land on other people's hands or faces. It only takes one virus entering the corner of your eye (or the corner of your mouth) to set off a full-blown infection.

Learn more:
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2) Uh.. not really.



"SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: Filoviruses have been reported capable to survive for weeks in blood and can also survive on contaminated surfaces, particularly at low temperatures (4°C) Footnote 52 Footnote 61. One study could not recover any Ebolavirus from experimentally contaminated surfaces (plastic, metal or glass) at room temperature Footnote 61. In another study, Ebolavirus dried onto glass, polymeric silicone rubber, or painted aluminum alloy is able to survive in the dark for several hours under ambient conditions (between 20 and 250C and 30–40% relative humidity) (amount of virus reduced to 37% after 15.4 hours), but is less stable than some other viral hemorrhagic fevers (Lassa) Footnote 53. When dried in tissue culture media onto glass and stored at 4 °C, Zaire ebolavirus survived for over 50 days Footnote 61. This information is based on experimental findings only and not based on observations in nature. This information is intended to be used to support local risk assessments in a laboratory setting. "

Research is your friend.

3) It needs direct contact with broken skin. Touching someone with Ebola is not infecting you for certainly. But it does make it high chance.

Again - research is your friend:

"INFECTIOUS DOSE: Viral hemorrhagic fevers have an infectious dose of 1 - 10 organisms by aerosol in non-human primates Footnote 41.

MODE OF TRANSMISSION: In an outbreak, it is hypothesized that the first patient becomes infected as a result of contact with an infected animal Footnote 22. Person-to-person transmission occurs via close personal contact with an infected individual or their body fluids during the late stages of infection or after death Footnote 1 Footnote 2 Footnote 22 Footnote 42. Nosocomial infections can occur through contact with infected body fluids for example due to the reuse of unsterilized syringes, needles, or other medical equipment contaminated with these fluids Footnote 1 Footnote 2. Humans may be infected by handling sick or dead non-human primates and are also at risk when handling the bodies of deceased humans in preparation for funerals Footnote 2 Footnote 10 Footnote 43.

In laboratory settings, non-human primates exposed to aerosolized ebolavirus from pigs have become infected, however, airborne transmission has not been demonstrated between non-human primates Footnote 1 Footnote 10 Footnote 15 Footnote 44 Footnote 45. Viral shedding has been observed in nasopharyngeal secretions and rectal swabs of pigs following experimental inoculation Footnote 29 Footnote 30."


From same source.

If 10 virus particles come into contact with your mucous membranes (and hundreds can travel on aerosol particles) - it is possible to contract it. That means your eyes, nose, mouth, and potentially other orifices.

The data on survival outside of the human body means that food service is potentially a vector for communication - which is a threat that is far more pronounced in western cultures.

Broken skin and improper health worker sanitation are also known vectors.

Keep in mind that absolutely none of these viruses have caused an outbreak lasting longer than a few weeks. This is the longest lived outbreak thus far.

Since we're onto epidemiology, here, let's look at that for a moment:



"Epidemiologists and virus experts believe the original case in that instance to have been a woman who went to a market in Guinea and then returned, unwell, to her home village in neighbouring northern Liberia.

The woman's sister cared for her, and in doing so contracted the Ebola virus herself before her sibling died of the haemorrhagic fever it causes.

Feeling unwell and fearing a similar fate, the sister wanted to see her husband - an internal migrant worker then employed on the other side of Liberia at the Firestone rubber plantation.

She took a communal taxi via Liberia's capital Monrovia, exposing five other people to the virus who later contracted and died of the Ebola. In Monrovia, she switched to a motorcycle, riding pillion with a young man who agreed to take her to the plantation and whom health authorities were subsequently desperate to trace."


The problem with the argument "it is hard to get" is that it places the fault of infection on the victim of that infection.

Which is backwards thinking.

The real statement is: "It is hard to give, relative to the flu." Unless you want to go around in a positive pressure suit with a bottle of 10% bleach solution everywhere you go - then you have very little control over whether or not you "get" a virus like Ebola.

Granted, there are things you can do to reduce your risk - but there is a reason this viral outbreak is lasting far longer than the others.

4) Okay, prolly.

"Prolly?"

You're going to argue the function of a death-dealing virus and use "prolly" as a response?

Since the virus infects -all- tissues and triggers hemorrhaging (IE - turning you into virus soup - your organs literally dissolve) - you literally die with blood flowing from eyes, mouth, anus, etc.

Granted - not -all- die from Hemorrhaging - but enough to make for one hell of a scene when people are throwing up blood speckled with visible specks of crystallized virus.

The two people who quoted me thinking that the more bullshit they type, means the more accurate their statements are, are stupid as hell.

I don't care if I offended you, and I don't care what your ignorant asses have to say.

I'm not getting Ebola because it's something that can be prevented if one is cautious enough. Not like Ebola is something one needs to be overly cautious about in the first place.​


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By all means. Continue to argue with physics and call dissenters fools.

Remember - 10 is the magic number. 10 virus particles nanometers in size. That's all that have to make it to one of your mucous membranes.

Ha ha. Anyone thinking Ebola stands a chance in America needs to open their eyes. Every single victim gets isolated. The U.S have very strict quarantine laws. People think America is not prepared for this. They have always been prepared for this kind of stuff. Not to mention, the infection rate in the U.S isn't even that high. It's very low and the disease is barely contagious. You literally have to lick the victim to get the disease. The only countries at stake are developing countries. Not countries like U.S, lol.


The infection rate in the U.S. is low because Ebola has NEVER BEEN HERE.

Unless you count Ebola Reston - but that is a strain from the Philippines that has only demonstrated the ability to infect a specific strain of non-human primates. There again - we exterminated it before giving the chance.

As for isolation procedures, no, we do not. People travel freely between nations at airports. That is how this man was able to get into the U.S.

As for our quarantine procedures....



"Relatives of Ebola victim Thomas Eric Duncan who were put under observation by CDC after they visited him on the day he was taken to hospital are still waiting for an answer about what they should do 24 hours after they begged them for help.

Aaron Yah, 43, and wife Youngor Jallah, 35, yesterday told of their ordeal in isolation and revealed that they had not received direct orders to stay indoors.

Today MailOnline returned to the family's small apartment to find a family without answers, without power following violent electrical storms that brought down lines and running low on food, water and diapers for their youngest child."


Yep. All under control. Well executed. Good job, team.

"Most troubling of all some family members are beginning to show cold-like symptoms.

Ms Jallah repeatedly wiped her eyes - which appeared sticky - with a paper towel while a child sneezed and coughed in the background. While it is unlikely to be related to the Ebola virus, they did not look as healthy as they did when MailOnline visited on Thursday."


Oh...

"The family has also had no instruction about how to dispose of the waste already accumulating in their small second floor apartment. The waste, which may be contaminated, includes soiled diapers."

The fact that these people, with common sense, have a better idea of what "quarantine" means than our own CDC ....

Yeah.

DJ, Put on some Disturbed. I'm feeling a little Down With the Sickness.
 
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