[Discussion] The difference between Indra and Ashura 'solo slash'

[Mr Hiru]

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And **** you, i can see the chakra claw.

I edited my previous post, so you can see I saw the claw after examining the panel.

But that lightning sword is not called Chidori as you claimed, that's a "chidori eisou". So you better correct yourself before blaming others for your ignorance.

No, but its chakra using raw speed...not for jutsu dumb@ss you just proven yourself wrong.

Shuushin is not a jutsu, its just chakra that max ur speed.

Troll more and I'll continue to shoot ur sh!t down along with the rest.

When you use chakra to move your body, you're executing a jutsu.

I'm not the troll in here, you're just in denial.

Or what? Are you so afraid to check if Shunshin no Jutsu is a Rank-D basic ninjutsu? Huh?

...pfff.

 

[Frikid]

Nothing much to explain.
He miracalously (typo) was able to speed blitz kaguya when bz made fun of his parents murderer.

Kaguya could keep up with naruto just fine and suddenly she could not even react to him when he was initiating from a considerable distance.

 

[Im Still Robin]

I edited my previous post, so you can see I saw the claw after examining the panel.

But that lightning sword is not called Chidori as you claimed, that's a "chidori eisou". So you better correct yourself before blaming others for your ignorance.

Fanfiction.



When you use chakra to move your body, you're executing a jutsu.

I'm not the troll in here, you're just in denial.

Or what? Are you so afraid to check if Shunshin no Jutsu is a Rank-D basic ninjutsu? Huh?

...pfff.

I nowhere in the series does it says that at all.

I guess walking on water or trees is a jutsu as well...fark no I also guess ninja jumping is a jutsu as well. Lmao fanfic.

I'm in denial...you're a biased fanboy giving ur narudo the upper hand...fk out my face with ur "logic"

 

[Mr Hiru]

Nothing much to explain.
He miracalously (typo) was able to speed blitz kaguya when bz made fun of his parents murderer.

Kaguya could keep up with naruto just fine and suddenly she could not even react to him when he was initiating from a considerable distance.

Under your point of view, Sasuke's CT was also an asspull because he was able to do that kind of technique from nowhere.

Now, if we assume both Naruto and Sasuke were improving and learning from their abilities while using them during their fight against Madara and so on, I really would disagree to call this blitz an asspull.

 

[Mr Hiru]

I nowhere in the series does it says that at all.

I guess walking on water or trees is a jutsu as well...fark no I also guess ninja jumping is a jutsu as well. Lmao fanfic.

I'm in denial...you're a biased fanboy giving ur narudo the upper hand...fk out my face with ur "logic"

Nowhere in the series...? hey, do you read the manga from mangapanda or ViZ? Also... do you peek the databook sometimes?

The info is out there for you to read it. If you won't do it, well, we're done here. I even gave you the places to search for it... don't be a smartass and do something, for a change.

 

[Im Still Robin]

Nowhere in the series...? hey, do you read the manga from mangapanda or ViZ? Also... do you peek the databook sometimes?

The info is out there for you to read it. If you won't do it, well, we're done here. I even gave you the places to search for it... don't be a smartass and do something, for a change.

Like you said "chakra exiting ur body is a jutsu" and you've yet to respond to the listed "jutsu" that requires chakra outside of the body.

Lmao fail. I guess we are.

On to the next thread to solo.

 

[Frikid]

Under your point of view, Sasuke's CT was also an asspull because he was able to do that kind of technique from nowhere.

Now, if we assume both Naruto and Sasuke were improving and learning from their abilities while using them during their fight against Madara and so on, I really would disagree to call this blitz an asspull.

Since he possess the sharinnegan it is in realm of possibilities for him to achieve this feat.

No explanation was given on how naruto did it nor it made any kind of sense for him to suddenly outspeed kaguya to the point she could not even react when he was coming from a considerable distance.
Then after that point,he didnt retain that high speed so it was clearly not an improvement in speed.
It was more like a one time thing and it only happened due to the emotional motivation
naruto got when bz agitated him.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Like you said "chakra exiting ur body is a jutsu" and you've yet to respond to the listed "jutsu" that requires chakra outside of the body.

Lmao fail. I guess we are.

On to the next thread to solo.

I said "using chakra for", not "chakra exiting your body is a jutsu". As you're trying to put words in my mouth and you're not even capable to read properly, we're just done here.

King Of The Pirates, you have been soloed by yourself... even when I was trying to help you to avoid it... ...

But I'll be gentle enough to put examples from both cases.

Taijutsu = Using unmixed spiritual and physical energy inside the body (known as stamina)

Ninjutsu = Using mixed spiritual and physical energy outside the body (known as chakra)

Sources: Chapter 17, chapter 90.

Since he possess the sharinnegan it is in realm of possibilities for him to achieve this feat.

No explanation was given on how naruto did it nor it made any kind of sense for him to suddenly outspeed kaguya to the point she could not even react when he was coming from a considerable distance.
Then after that point,he didnt retain that high speed so it was clearly not an improvement in speed.
It was more like a one time thing and it only happened due to the emotional motivation
naruto got when bz agitated him.

About the feature: Man, Sasuke didn't show any kind of sign of using Deva Path, until now. This, compared to Naruto's shunshin, applies the same logic, because both used features adquired from their Six Paths abilities (Sasuke from his eyes, Naruto from his Senjutsu chakra, which is powered by the beasts to some extent).

Take in mind that Sasuke also got emotional motivation to finish Madara, so I think it would be wise to discard this variable from discussion.

The fact here is that both Naruto and Sasuke got the abilities to shunshin to this extent (Naruto going upwards seems like a "shunshin jumping", he impulsed his feets using chakra to be shot as a bullet and gain momentum, and using the chakra claws mentioned by

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he made the job easier; Sasuke in the other hand got the ability to use shunshin from earlier in the series, he even demonstrated this in his fight against Naruto in part 2).

 

[Frikid]

It seemms like you didnt quite get it what i mean by "emotional motivation".

The asspull was not naruto's high speed movement but kaguya's inability to react to it which she should have done easily in normal circumstances.

 

[Mr Hiru]

It seemms like you didnt quite get it what i mean by "emotional motivation".

The asspull was not naruto's high speed movement but kaguya's inability to react to it which she should have done easily in normal circumstances.

I still don't see the asspull, let me describe my reasoning:

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..."shiver... shiver... shiver... shiver... "?

- Kaguya's teleportation techniques required huge amount of chakra.
- Kaguya's chakra reserves were decreasing too much.
- Chakra = Mixed spiritual and physical energy. When unmixed, these energies are known as "stamina".

Motive A) One way to describe Kaguya's lack of reaction: She was starting to get really tired. The shivering of the last two links I gave you is proof enough of this conclusion.

- BZ was the one who was giving intel to Kaguya
- BZ's reasoning was not right all times

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- BZ was the one with the job of kneading chakra, apparently

Motive B) BZ's was one of those in charge of Kaguya's chakra/stamina recovery during battle (in the best of cases, Kaguya also did the job, but BZ's words sounded like he was really needed for this purpose). So basically, BZ didn't see Naruto's slash coming.

Conclusion: Kaguya was really tired at this point of battle, due the excessive use of dimensional teleportation.

 

[Dr Doom]

Naruto slash requirements :
Emotional motivation
A diversion needed

Sasuke's was more realistic since it did not involve any power of frienship bs.

That's the lamest answer I've seen today.