MickNerks
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Basically after doing some Orochimaru like research I have come to find that Hiruzen and Minato could possibly be OP, I would like to share this information with you guys to see what you think.
Ok, before I get into what it is that makes these two Hokage very powerful, I'd like to point a few things out that we have learned thru naruto.
1. The Essence of Chakra
2. Now what is it that makes these two hokage dangerous if used PROPERLY?!? None other that the Reaper Death Seal.
This proves that the clones had an individual soul, and that each soul of the shadow clone was sealed along with the soul of hashirama and tobirama. The Reaper Seal could have been completed at that point, and hiruzen could have survived without having to give up the chakra/soul of his original body, but the Hokage decided to sacrifice himself to seal orochimaru with him.
But lets look at the down side of hiruzen sacrificing his clones. When hiruzen created 2 shadow clones his chakra was split into 1/3, and when each clone was sealed he permanently lost 2/3 of his original chakra. This means that Hiruzen chakra reserves took a drastic reduction.
Basically to sum this all up, Minato and Hiruzen are deadly with Death Reaper because they can utilize the Shadow Clone technique for a garunteed victory over opponents with the only side effect being that they will lose 1/3 of their original chakra forever, yet they will walk away with their lives.
This means that everyone's assumption of the RDS being a suicide technique is false. Death can be avoided by the use of shadow clones.
So Im going to stop talking now and just and answer any questions or suggestions you guys have in the thread itself. What do you think?
SIDE NOTE: (MINATO VS KYUUBI)
Ok, before I get into what it is that makes these two Hokage very powerful, I'd like to point a few things out that we have learned thru naruto.
1. The Essence of Chakra
We have come to learn that in the narutoverse, chakra is the foundation of life. When one runs out of chakra they risk dying due to lack of energy. Chakra is the energy/lifeforce of the narutoverse. It is also the spirit of each individual, which we have seen in previous chapter with the revival is the past kage, yet they only exist as chakra:
Even obito when ressurected to help kakashi was seen to be revived as his own chakra, which allowed kakashi to gain his MS.:
From this we can establish that chakra is the life force or spirit of the naruto verse.
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Even obito when ressurected to help kakashi was seen to be revived as his own chakra, which allowed kakashi to gain his MS.:
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From this we can establish that chakra is the life force or spirit of the naruto verse.
2. Now what is it that makes these two hokage dangerous if used PROPERLY?!? None other that the Reaper Death Seal.
As we already know the Reaper Death Seal is a seal developed by the Uzumaki clan and it summons a Shinigami that thrusts its arm into the user's chest to grab the
So why is it that this technique is so dangerous? Well lets look at how Hiruzen used it.
Lets look back at what I presented earlier. Chakra is the soul of each shinobi, or it can be described as their life force which is seen when the Kage were revived as nothing but their chakra, and obito returned to the world of the living as nothing more than his chakra. This Chakra is the same thing that is
Hiruzen was able to use his clones as a medium for his seal, seeing as how they had there own souls. Each clone was able to seal the soul of hashirama and tobirama separately without putting Hiruzen's original soul in danger.
As you can see,
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of its target. At the user's command, the Shinigami then performs the sealing by dragging the target's
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into the user whose stomach is branded with the seal's mark. However, the sealing is double-edged as the user's soul is devoured by the Shinigami along with the target's,
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.So why is it that this technique is so dangerous? Well lets look at how Hiruzen used it.
Lets look back at what I presented earlier. Chakra is the soul of each shinobi, or it can be described as their life force which is seen when the Kage were revived as nothing but their chakra, and obito returned to the world of the living as nothing more than his chakra. This Chakra is the same thing that is
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.Hiruzen was able to use his clones as a medium for his seal, seeing as how they had there own souls. Each clone was able to seal the soul of hashirama and tobirama separately without putting Hiruzen's original soul in danger.
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As you can see,
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. The seal was completed when each clone dispersed, as
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which was shown when orochimaru first witness the reaper.This proves that the clones had an individual soul, and that each soul of the shadow clone was sealed along with the soul of hashirama and tobirama. The Reaper Seal could have been completed at that point, and hiruzen could have survived without having to give up the chakra/soul of his original body, but the Hokage decided to sacrifice himself to seal orochimaru with him.
But lets look at the down side of hiruzen sacrificing his clones. When hiruzen created 2 shadow clones his chakra was split into 1/3, and when each clone was sealed he permanently lost 2/3 of his original chakra. This means that Hiruzen chakra reserves took a drastic reduction.
Basically to sum this all up, Minato and Hiruzen are deadly with Death Reaper because they can utilize the Shadow Clone technique for a garunteed victory over opponents with the only side effect being that they will lose 1/3 of their original chakra forever, yet they will walk away with their lives.
This means that everyone's assumption of the RDS being a suicide technique is false. Death can be avoided by the use of shadow clones.
So Im going to stop talking now and just and answer any questions or suggestions you guys have in the thread itself. What do you think?
SIDE NOTE: (MINATO VS KYUUBI)
For those asking why didnt minato just use a SC to survive against the Kyuubi, remember that
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. Had he created a clone he would have reduced his original strength by half, which means he (or the clone) wouldnt have been strong enought to even seal half the kyuubi within himself.
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