What If: Alive BSM Hashirama vs Dual Rinnegan Madara (Alive)

[Zee U]

Not actually going to read the first part atm, but the crater part overall is wrong, atleast by using Kishi's standards: multi mountain sized pieces of CT falling from the space (or upper exosphere) and being pushed back by the explosion of BDFRS failed to destroy the earth the crashed upon and cause a decent crater (when a 25 meters meteor caused a 1 and a half kilometer crater <.<). Kishi ****s up physics in any shape or form, and such things should be not be taken so seriously.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Hagoromo's Chakra are in Sasuke's eye. Hagoromo's Chakra are in Madara's eyes AND body. Madara was blind in the scan.​

Madara was able to use the Preta path to absorb Amaterasu while blind, but you could be right as well.

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Hagoromo's Chakra=Quality
Whilst Madara had monsterous reserves, he still can't compare to the Juubi.

You're questioning whether those rocks he's hiding at will be crushed by multi-mountain meteorites? No, it won't make sense. Look at the scan, the Senju and Tobirama had dirt all over their clothes. That implies they were fighting him. And how did you know Madara got PS in that fight? Don't use anime. It's not canon.​

But we don't know if the rocks stay intact after the CT is done forming. Unless you're speaking about the meteors from Tengai Shinsei colliding with the CT? Because that's a completely different story.

And I can't see the Senju fighting against Madara no matter how you slice it. Perhaps they were fighting against Uchiha that haven't been shown? Because Madara would obliterate anyone excluding Hashirama and Tobirama. And why wouldn't have Madara brought out PS in that fight? He would have been negged without it.

 

[Benjamin King]

Not actually going to read the first part atm, but the crater part overall is wrong, atleast by using Kishi's standards: multi mountain sized pieces of CT falling from the space (or upper exosphere) and being pushed back by the explosion of BDFRS failed to destroy the earth the crashed upon and cause a decent crater (when a 25 meters meteor caused a 1 and a half kilometer crater <.<). Kishi ****s up physics in any shape or form, and such things should be not be taken so seriously.

The 1st part wasn't calculating the meteor's size, it was to clear up the misconception. It was the second part giving an approx estimation volume for the meteor. And I know that maths and physics do not apply for the manga, but the fact that HQ were able to feel the destruction of Tengai Shinsei gives you assumption of how strong the Jutsu is.​

Madara was able to use the Preta path to absorb Amaterasu while blind, but you could be right as well.

And no evidence that he used Preta Path, either. He could have a Ninjutsu absorption trait. The point won't negate that he float in the panel. That was our main discussion.​

Hagoromo's Chakra=Quality
Whilst Madara had monsterous reserves, he still can't compare to the Juubi.

It's quality and quantity. He had so much of it that the Rinnegan manifested. It doesn't matter whether he has comparable to the Juubi or not, Naruto and Sasuke still have monstrous DC without having the Juubi. Why can't we say the same for Madara, who has Hagoromo's Chakra like them?​

But we don't know if the rocks stay intact after the CT is done forming. Unless you're speaking about the meteors from Tengai Shinsei colliding with the CT? Because that's a completely different story.

Huh? Meteors annihilates everything caught in its radius. CT was done in similar fashion to Tengai Shinsei, so I don't see your point of being different story. The rocks would still be destroyed when it makes contact with the meteor.​

And I can't see the Senju fighting against Madara no matter how you slice it. Perhaps they were fighting against Uchiha that haven't been shown? Because Madara would obliterate anyone excluding Hashirama and Tobirama. And why wouldn't have Madara brought out PS in that fight? He would have been negged without it.

Madara said that no one in the Uchiha follows him anymore. [

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] If they were fighting the Uchiha, then Madara was lying. For the simple fact that he didn't have mastery over his EMS at that time.​