Minato vs Tobirama *No FTG*

[AlphaScythian]

Please, Tobirama spits at minato - soloed.
Multi explosive tags on thrown kunai - soloed.

 

[Draegod]

Tobirama reacted to a Juubi Jin no diff.. Raped a Elite MS User no diff.. Is a sensor.. and has a sword.. You do the math...

 

[Great Master Minato]

Lol People Talk Like Tobirama Is The Superior One In Speed...

Tobirama reacted to a Juubi Jin no diff.. Raped a Elite MS User no diff.. Is a sensor.. and has a sword.. You do the math...

No Diff? Really? Half Of His Body Got Ripped Off & That Was V1 Juubito While Minato Clashed V2 Juubito...You Can't Prove Minato Couldn't Do What Tobirama Did...MS Obito >> MS Izuna Hence Izuna Didn't Use Any MS Ability Against Tobirama...Minato Is A Sensor Too...Rasengan >> Any Sword...Minato Still Is The Superior One In My Eye...

 

[grizzlyshree]

Draw TBH its debatable

 

[ad0]

Tobirama is stronger cause he is the creator of the Reanimation jutsu. He reaction speed was faster see here already place a mark plus paper bombs on pre-jubito

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Minato clearly said he is so fast

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Forgot to say Minato never cooled down the Kyuub inside him it was Naruto that cooled the half which cooled the other half of Minato

 

[LuckyMan]

Where did the myth that Tobirama has greater chakra reserves than Minato come from?

Tobirama making 2 clones and Minato making one is not grounds to say he has more chakra. Minato had Kyuubi at that time and could have made more but he only needed 1. Surely KCM Minato has more chakra at his disposal than Tobirama so saying Tobirama had more because Minato made just 1 means you believe base watered down Tobirama chakra > yin Kyuubi + Minato chakra and that's just absurd.

Both their chakra are high but because we know Edo's can only do what they had the capacity to do in real life, we can use certain feats for them to determine who would have more.

Tobirama best feat in base was teleporting Naruto and Minato in BM and Minatos best feat in base was teleporting JubiDama. Minato feat is better because the larger the object the more taxing it is and Max Jubidama appears at least 10 times larger than the Kyuubi Bijuu.

This does not automatically mean Minato had more because we have no idea if Tobirama is capable of doing that too but he was certain he could more at least 2 of Jubito Quad Bijuu Dama and they are larger than Minato and Naruto in BM so him teleporting Yin and yang Kyuubi is not his limit because he was about to teleport two objects that were larger than them.

Minato knew SM and you need enormous base chakra for that so we have that too.

When it comes down to feats Minato has more chakra but Tobirama is portrayed to have probably just as much and its hard to gauge where they really are because both had lower stats across the board while ET so we probably will never know for sure. We just gotta work with that Kishi has given us.

 

[ATD]

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Tobiramas chakra is to strong, he can easy crush walls by just laying his hands on it, one punch and minato is dead and tobirama showed that he can mark even jubi jins in an instant with just hand movement speed, so this makes his taijutsu > Minatos

Suiton Suidanha is at least as deadly as rasengan, tobirama can use more Kage Bunshins and more elemental jutsus.
Minatos foodspeed is better than tobiramas, but that doesn't matter that much due to tobirama being a good sensor + his reaction speed is to fast.

Tobirama is very underrated he wins med diff without ftg and summonings restricted.
he wins med-high diff even when gamabunta is there and ftg restricted.
He wins high diff when there are no restrictions.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

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Tobiramas chakra is to strong, he can easy crush walls by just laying his hands on it, one punch and minato is dead and tobirama showed that he can mark even jubi jins in an instant with just hand movement speed, so this makes his taijutsu > Minatos

Suiton Suidanha is at least as deadly as rasengan, tobirama can use more Kage Bunshins and more elemental jutsus.
Minatos foodspeed is better than tobiramas, but that doesn't matter that much due to tobirama being a good sensor + his reaction speed is to fast.

Tobirama is very underrated he wins med diff without ftg and summonings restricted.
he wins med-high diff even when gamabunta is there and ftg restricted.
He wins high diff when there are no restrictions.

baseless assumption.

 

[ATD]

baseless assumption.

you can clearly see how the wall cracked only because tobirama lays a hand on it, imagine what a punch would do, but you are right in the end its only a assumption, there are other ways how tobirama can finish minato, a kunai slash would be enough, I'm sure tobiramas striking speed is as fast as his marking speed. I don't see base minato reacting to such a fast slash when izuna a sharingan user wasn't able to dodge it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

you can clearly see how the wall cracked only because tobirama lays a hand on it, imagine what a punch would do, but you are right in the end its only a assumption, there are other ways how tobirama can finish minato, a kunai slash would be enough, I'm sure tobiramas striking speed is as fast as his marking speed. I don't see base minato reacting to such a fast slash when izuna a sharingan user wasn't able to dodge it.

I doubt Tobiramas striking speed is faster than ay's.

 

[QdonEms]

Minato destroys him.

Tobirama here has only clones, water jutsus, and sensing.

Minato has clones, sensing, summoning jutsu, superior speed and reaction, sealing jutsus, Rassengan..etc

agreed but superior foot speed...i dont know.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

agreed but superior foot speed...i dont know.

Didn't minato cross the entire leaf village (and outskirts) via Shunshin b4 100% kurama could fire an already charged tbb?

 

[Valhorus]

1 punch from Tobirama is enough ? Lel , reacted to a juubi jin ? He got his god damn body ripped off agaisnt a mindless Juubito , You have nothing to prove Tobirama got superior reactions , on other hand Minato performed FTG twice before Gai in 8th gate to move an inch , almost blitzed Juubi Madara , while Tobirama was destroyed by mindless Juubito and 1 Eyed Rinnegan Madara after his sneak peek attack , note these 2 versions of Madara and Obito was way weaker then the ones Minato faced . Minato shited on a MS user way way stronger than that Izuna who got no MS feats rofl .

Minato''s base rasengan made the gorund to shatter against Tobi , his kunai penetrated Mokuton , and you have the assumption 1 hit from Tobirama and Minato is down , lel . Entering SM into a second is not a given feat from Naruto to Minato , reread the manga if you know how to read and you will see Minato threw a kunai before entering a SM , that were just some seconds to enter his SM .

Tobirama has more chakra ? Bring me a proof other than that he is a Senju please .

 

[ATD]

I doubt Tobiramas striking speed is faster than ay's.

It is, jubito didnt noticed that he was marked until tobirama teleported behind him.

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he marked him and attached explosive tags on jubito almost at the same time.

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[BenjerminGaye]

It is, jubito didnt noticed that he was marked until tobirama teleported behind him.

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he marked him and attached explosive tags on jubito almost at the same time.

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Juubito was mindless, he couldn't even shoot tsb's properly.

 

[ATD]

1 punch from Tobirama is enough ? Lel , reacted to a juubi jin ? He got his god damn body ripped off agaisnt a mindless Juubito , You have nothing to prove Tobirama got superior reactions , on other hand Minato performed FTG twice before Gai in 8th gate to move an inch , almost blitzed Juubi Madara , while Tobirama was destroyed by mindless Juubito and 1 Eyed Rinnegan Madara after his sneak peek attack , note these 2 versions of Madara and Obito was way weaker then the ones Minato faced . Minato shited on a MS user way way stronger than that Izuna who got no MS feats rofl .

Minato''s base rasengan made the gorund to shatter against Tobi , his kunai penetrated Mokuton , and you have the assumption 1 hit from Tobirama and Minato is down , lel . Entering SM into a second is not a given feat from Naruto to Minato , reread the manga if you know how to read and you will see Minato threw a kunai before entering a SM , that were just some seconds to enter his SM .

Tobirama has more chakra ? Bring me a proof other than that he is a Senju please .

Tobiramas Chakra raised the roof with lifting a finger when he got angry.

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He was about to crush the wall with only laying a hand on it, ofc this leads me to think that on of his punches will be deadly.

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This is base minato, tobirama kept up with kcm minato in the war

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Izuna uchiha wasn't able to see through the striking speed of tobirama after he appeared with ftg.

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Killer bee reacted with a tentacle to minatos striking speed, base minato is inferior to tobirama except in food speed which was admitted by tobirama when they appeared on the battle field but tobirama will be able to react to it.
Even if tobirama was ripped apart by jubito, he managed to mark him before he hit tobirama and he attached explosive tags to jubito at the same time.

Base minato is not as fast as jubito, so tobirama will have no problem blitzing minato in close combat with his superior movement speed.

 

[Bogard]

This is base minato, tobirama kept up with kcm minato in the war

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A Suigetsu coming from the background could block Raikage before his punch reached Sasuke:

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So Suigetsu is as fast if not faster than Raikage's striking speed? No, you should know the difference between shunshin and movement speed. Tobirama used shunshin there while Minato was static. Shunshin > Movement speed, but we already know Base Minato's shunshin > Tobirama's:

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So if Minato was in the background using shunshin at that moment likely he would have appeared even faster

 

[KidGamer65]

Tobirama has better reactions and striking speed, as his feat of reacting to Juubito and tagging him 5 times completely blows anything Minato has ever done in this field out of the water. In CQC, Tobirama has the advantage. They both have clones, but Tobirama has the superior reactions and striking speed here, and he has his Water Ninjutsu, such as Water Wall to block out Minato if he tries to hit him with Rasengan. He also beats Minato when it comes to range since he has his Water Dragon Jutsu, and he has Suidanha. Minato isn't going to dance around all these attacks, which can also be multiplied in quantity via clones, and land Rasengan on Tobirama.

So Tobirama wins.

 

[makosheva7]

If Minato couldn't go into SM, then Tobirama would win just because of his stamina, but since that's not the case, Minato mid-high diff.