Why is revenge acceptable for Shikamaru and Team Asuma

[demon of the leaf]

Innocent people like who? Danzo? Yeah, he's so innocent. You keep throwing in what if scenarios that didn't happen. The only person that Sasuke killed was Danzo. That's it. They are ninjas' so I assume you are going to be childish and bring up the samurai façade, but what if he didn't act and the Samurai actually killed him instead? Would you consider the samurai to be at fault or would you consider that act to be a good thing now that Sasuke Uchiha is dead?

No one said danzo was innocent but instead invading the summit he should have waited till danzo was out in the open but instead he created more problems and enemys and he was going to kill everyone in the leaf so tell me how is that jusified to attack people who have no clue about what happend at the uchiha massicure

 

[spade3dg]

The manga glorify naruto's vengeful act as heroic. There's not once anyone condemning naruto's action.

Mangafax:

1. If naruto kill nagato, he's the hero

2. If he tnj nagato, he's savior

But Naruto didnt avenge anyone. He wanted revenge. Keyword. Wanted. He didnt go through with it though.

You cant say Narutos act of revenge when he didnt kill anyone. The most he did was talk to the person, didnt kill.

 

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Please don't tell me you think Gaara and Mei are Innocent Lol

Lel I love to hear the arguments as to what Mei did now please do tell.

 

[TrollKing]

No. Sasuke said he wanted to wipe out the entire village. It's not that hard to understand.

Obito asked him what he meant exactly afterward. And he claimed to destroy the leaf is to kill the people in power aka danzo

If he wants to destroy all fodders, you shouldn't have any problem naming 1 fodder konohan he killed

 

[demon of the leaf]

Innocent people like who? Danzo? Yeah, he's so innocent. You keep throwing in what if scenarios that didn't happen. The only person that Sasuke killed was Danzo. That's it. They are ninjas' so I assume you are going to be childish and bring up the samurai façade, but what if he didn't act and the Samurai actually killed him instead? Would you consider the samurai to be at fault or would you consider that act to be a good thing now that Sasuke Uchiha is dead?

No one said danzo was innocent but instead invading the summit he should have waited till danzo was out in the open but instead he created more problems and enemys and he was going to kill everyone in the leaf so tell me how is that jusified to attack people who have no clue about what happend at the uchiha massicur

 

[TrollKing]

But Naruto didnt avenge anyone. He wanted revenge. Keyword. Wanted. He didnt go through with it though.

You cant say Narutos act of revenge when he didnt kill anyone. The most he did was talk to the person, didnt kill.

He wanted revenge the whole time and decided not to kill pain the last minute.

During the time and the time after he wanted to revenge, no one in manga nor any naruto fans condemn his action.

Base on manga, naruto can revenge and did revenge(doesn't mean killing necessarily) already

 

[Dannie]

he wanted to avenge jiraya but did he kill nagato cause i dont remember naruto stabbing or obliterating him sasuke was going to kill everyone in the leaf and made more enemys by trying to capture killer B who is the brother of the ryekage and made things worst by attacking the kage summit

If Naruto would have killed Nagato then everyone that died that day would have stayed dead. It was all for the theme and plot that Naruto didn't kill Nagato.

Did Sasuke kill everyone in the leaf?
Did Bee actually die?
Were the samurai not warned to not interfere in ninjas affairs?
They were fodder. It wasn't there place to be fighting with them anyway.

Sasuke left the village due to jealousy of Narutos growth and because he felt like he was beginning to not care about revenge.

He was becoming comfortable in Konoha and wpuldve eventually let those feelings go due to having friends and people to care for.

Example. He almost died saving Naruto from Haku. His friends life was in danger. That overshadowed his thirst for vengeance.
He couldve calmed down and settled but them itachi and Kisame invaded the village.

Show me a panel where it states that Sasuke left the village because of Naruto's growth.
Sasuke left the village just for revenge, hence going to Orochimaru to get stronger. Why the fck would he leave the village for Naruto when he didn't care to see him in part two and was solely looking for Itachi?

And you obviously don't know anything about Sasuke because not everyone acts and feels the same as blonde. Implying that Sasuke would have let his revenge go if he stayed in the village is just your assumption, which is a very stupid one at that. Sasuke already had friends in the village and he knew that it wasn't working out staying in the vliiage hence why he left to get stronger.

Moron, if Sasuke never left then there would be no plot for the story. Of course Itachi had to show up so the build up for Sasuke's rage could consume him.

Doesn't matter if he didn't go through with it. He was thinking about it. That type of revenge is unacceptable.
Killing Danzo and Itachi was fine.

Thinking about doing something and actually doing something are to different things, which you clearly don't understand.

He killed numerous samurai at the kage summit before he fought Ay. They were innocent.

Yes, just let Sasuke stand there and die.
They weren't innocent. Learn the meaning of the word innocent.
Being innocent means that you don't have the will to fight back. The samurai wanted a fight and Sasuke gave them one. It's not Sasuke responsibility to control other peoples idiotic actions when they are clearly told to fall back and mind their business.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

The original mission was to kill them anyways. Kakashi only allowed Shikamaru to take charge the next mission to satisfy his revenge, it stays on mission and Shikamarus a great strategist anyways. 2 birds with one stone. Its not some long life journey to get revenge like Sasukes. His is obviously an unhealthy obsession thats affecting his day to day life and the people who care about him.

 

[spade3dg]

He wanted revenge the whole time and decided not to kill pain the last minute.

During the time and the time after he wanted to revenge, no one in manga nor any naruto fans condemn his action.

Base on manga, naruto can revenge and did revenge(doesn't mean killing necessarily) already

How did naruto get revenge then? Explain to me how.

I know that he wanted to. But he made his mind up while fight deva path pain. He even said it to Nagato. He wanted to kill him.
He wanted revenge, but he didnt go through with it.

Yes thats because people wanted him to get revenge. He killed Jiraiya. People felt the same way when they found out about Itachis sacrifice. They wanted Sasuke to get revenge. But Sasuke wanted more than just revenge, he wanted to destroy the whole village.

Naruto never acted in his vengeance, Sasuke went overboard. Hes condemned because Itachi doesnt want him to seek revenge but he still wants to. Thats why Sasuke is condemned

 

[demon of the leaf]

If Naruto would have killed Nagato then everyone that died that day would have stayed dead. It was all for the theme and plot that Naruto didn't kill Nagato.

Did Sasuke kill everyone in the leaf?
Did Bee actually die?
Were the samurai not warned to not interfere in ninjas affairs?
They were fodder. It wasn't there place to be fighting with them anyway.


Show me a panel where it states that Sasuke left the village because of Naruto's growth.
Sasuke left the village just for revenge, hence going to Orochimaru to get stronger. Why the fck would he leave the village for Naruto when he didn't care to see him in part two and was solely looking for Itachi?

And you obviously don't know anything about Sasuke because not everyone acts and feels the same as blonde. Implying that Sasuke would have let his revenge go if he stayed in the village is just your assumption, which is a very stupid one at that. Sasuke already had friends in the village and he knew that it wasn't working out staying in the vliiage hence why he left to get stronger.

Moron, if Sasuke never left then there would be no plot for the story. Of course Itachi had to show up so the build up for Sasuke's rage could consume him.


Thinking about doing something and actually doing something are to different things, which you clearly don't understand.


Yes, just let Sasuke stand there and die.
They weren't innocent. Leant the meaning of innocent.
Being innocent means that you don't have the will to fight back. The samurai wanted a fight and Sasuke gave them one. It's not Sasuke responsibility to control other peoples idiotic actions when they are clearly told to fall back and mind their business.

Its all plot or there wouldnt be a story -_-0 its not like its all a parellel world
And no b did not die but A had thought B was dead

 

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Umm.....No, even if Sasuke stay in the village Part 2 would still happen the Akatsuki would still be on the move.

 

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Lel I love to hear the arguments as to what Mei did now please do tell.

didn't she hire Akatsuki members or was that Ohnoki :|

 

[demon of the leaf]

He wanted revenge the whole time and decided not to kill pain the last minute.

During the time and the time after he wanted to revenge, no one in manga nor any naruto fans condemn his action.

Base on manga, naruto can revenge and did revenge(doesn't mean killing necessarily) already

He spared nagato not like he knew that nagato would revive all the dead he let him live cause he knew jiraya would not approve of it and respects him enough to know better

 

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didn't she hire Akatsuki members or was that Ohnoki :|

That was Onoki and he hire them when they were mercenaries fighting for money.

 

[-immortal-]

That was Onoki and he hire them when they were mercenaries fighting for money.

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[spade3dg]

If Naruto would have killed Nagato then everyone that died that day would have stayed dead. It was all for the theme and plot that Naruto didn't kill Nagato.

Did Sasuke kill everyone in the leaf?
Did Bee actually die?
Were the samurai not warned to not interfere in ninjas affairs?
They were fodder. It wasn't there place to be fighting with them anyway.


Show me a panel where it states that Sasuke left the village because of Naruto's growth.
Sasuke left the village just for revenge, hence going to Orochimaru to get stronger. Why the fck would he leave the village for Naruto when he didn't care to see him in part two and was solely looking for Itachi?

And you obviously don't know anything about Sasuke because not everyone acts and feels the same as blonde. Implying that Sasuke would have let his revenge go if he stayed in the village is just your assumption, which is a very stupid one at that. Sasuke already had friends in the village and he knew that it wasn't working out staying in the vliiage hence why he left to get stronger.

Moron, if Sasuke never left then there would be no plot for the story. Of course Itachi had to show up so the build up for Sasuke's rage could consume him.


Thinking about doing something and actually doing something are to different things, which you clearly don't understand.


Yes, just let Sasuke stand there and die.
They weren't innocent. Learn the meaning of the word innocent.
Being innocent means that you don't have the will to fight back. The samurai wanted a fight and Sasuke gave them one. It's not Sasuke responsibility to control other peoples idiotic actions when they are clearly told to fall back and mind their business.

Sasuke knew he couldnt get stronger by staying in the village. He has a superiority and inferiority complex. He seen Naruto getting stronger ( beating Haku, Neji and Gaara) and realized he was at the same level he's been at. So he decided to leave. Thus becoming a criminal.

Wrong idiot. Itachi came to remind Danzo not to kill Sasuke, as explained in Shippuden. He used the guise of trying to capture Naruto, to go see Danzo. Sasuke felt jealous that his brother didnt come for him, but for the person that has been upstaging him.

They were innocent because they were doing there jobs. They were guards at the kage summit. Sasuke shouldn't have been there. He was an international criminal at the time and was invading another country and a meeting of the leaders. Mind their business? They were doing there jobs you ignoramus.

No matter what, you cant defend his actions. His acts of revenge exceed any one elses by far.

 

[Migster257]

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I've still yet to hear you disprove how Tsunade, Gaara, and Mei are not innocent?

 

[TrollKing]

How did naruto get revenge then? Explain to me how.

I know that he wanted to. But he made his mind up while fight deva path pain. He even said it to Nagato. He wanted to kill him.
He wanted revenge, but he didnt go through with it.

Yes thats because people wanted him to get revenge. He killed Jiraiya. People felt the same way when they found out about Itachis sacrifice. They wanted Sasuke to get revenge. But Sasuke wanted more than just revenge, he wanted to destroy the whole village.

Naruto never acted in his vengeance, Sasuke went overboard. Hes condemned because Itachi doesnt want him to seek revenge but he still wants to. Thats why Sasuke is condemned

Sasuke's revenge: uses physical abuse to cause the death of itachi indirectly after declaration of revenge

Naruto's revenge: uses physical abuse to cause the death of nagato indirectly after declaration of revenge

He didn't want to kill him at the end, but in no one the manga saying him killing nagato is not acceptable at all. In another word, kishi trying to say its ok for naruto to kill nagato, but naruto is merciful

"Destroyed the village" actually means killing danzo and a couple more leaders(which I was very disappointed because I thought there would be more action)

Sasuke's revenge arc was over after danzo dead. Now he's not for revenge but for reformation. Why reformation? Because for the ninja world to created a monster like him, he feels something is really wrong in ninja world(danzo is not the only problem, just one of them)

 

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That's nice and all but i wasn't defending Onoki but at the same time there's nothing wrong with hiring Mercernaries because they were snatching Bijuus then they were just soldiers for hire.......soooooo yeah.
but back to Mei what did she do hmm?

 

[-immortal-]

I've still yet to hear you disprove how Tsunade, Gaara, and Mei are not innocent?

I've already back up on Mei as i showed i was wrong Lol.


Gaara killed people and he still Hokage.

Tsunade isn't any good for Konoha

That's nice and all but i wasn't defending Onoki but at the same time there's nothing wrong with hiring Mercernaries because they were snatching Bijuus then they were just soldiers for hire.......soooooo yeah.
but back to Mei what did she do hmm?

i was wrong about MEi that was why i showed the facepalm ''to myself''